Need someone to double check everything about this PC.

[Nova_107]

Hi, I've already built a list of parts on pcpartpicker around a budget of about £700 UK. Because this will be my first build I was hoping for someone to check over all these parts to see if they'll work together with ease and fit together with sizes i.e a-rgb stuff, size restrictions, bottlenecking etc. I already have a founders 1070, so no changing that. Thanks.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/b3H7mq

[quiprr]

New link please this one doesn't work

[Dedayog]

Works fine, here's the detail:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£127.50 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - TUF B450-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£94.99 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£26.67 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.64 @ Amazon UK) 
Custom: Corsair CP-9020132-UK TXM Series 650 W TX650M ATX/EPS Semi-Modular 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply Unit - Black  (£62.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Custom: Game Max Kage Mid Tower A-RGB PC Gaming Case, ATX, Spectrum Hub & 3 x Mirage 120mm A-RGB Fans with Mobo Sync  (£56.45) 
Custom: 1070 (£240.00)
Custom: Adata XPG Spectrix (£79.99)
Total: £724.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 23:08 BST+0100

 

[Guest]

The Asus B450 Tuf is awful.

 

Slightly more than your build but has a 512GB SSD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£127.50 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.84 @ AWD-IT) 
Storage: Gigabyte - UD PRO 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£55.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.64 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£54.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Custom: Game Max Kage Mid Tower A-RGB PC Gaming Case, ATX, Spectrum Hub & 3 x Mirage 120mm A-RGB Fans with Mobo Sync  (£56.45) 
Custom: 1070 (£240.00)
Custom: Adata XPG Spectrix (£79.99)
Total: £740.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 23:14 BST+0100

[Nova_107]

30 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The Asus B450 Tuf is awful.

 

Slightly more than your build but has a 512GB SSD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£127.50 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.84 @ AWD-IT) 
Storage: Gigabyte - UD PRO 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£55.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.64 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£54.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Custom: Game Max Kage Mid Tower A-RGB PC Gaming Case, ATX, Spectrum Hub & 3 x Mirage 120mm A-RGB Fans with Mobo Sync  (£56.45) 
Custom: 1070 (£240.00)
Custom: Adata XPG Spectrix (£79.99)
Total: £740.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 23:14 BST+0100

If I went with a different motherboard, I would preferably want one with a 5V argb header as the case comes with argb fans. Do you know any good ones for a similar price?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Nova_107 said:

If I went with a different motherboard, I would preferably want one with a 5V argb header as the case comes with argb fans. Do you know any good ones for a similar price?

Ah right. Not really into the whole RGB thing myself. The MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon has a 5V header. It is a bit more expensive than the Tomahawk though. You can always drop back down to a 250GB SSD if you want to stay at the same sort of price overall.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC/Specification

[VEXICUS]

3 hours ago, Nova_107 said:

If I went with a different motherboard, I would preferably want one with a 5V argb header as the case comes with argb fans. Do you know any good ones for a similar price?

I'll recommend something like this....

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£127.50 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£78.13 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£67.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£48.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.96 @ PC World Business) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card  (£273.47 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£62.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Custom: Game Max Kage Mid Tower A-RGB PC Gaming Case, ATX, Spectrum Hub & 3 x Mirage 120mm A-RGB Fans with Mobo Sync  (£56.45) 
Total: £749.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 03:43 BST+0100

[Guest]

7 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

I'll recommend something like this....

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£127.50 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£78.13 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£67.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£48.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.96 @ PC World Business) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card  (£273.47 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£62.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Custom: Game Max Kage Mid Tower A-RGB PC Gaming Case, ATX, Spectrum Hub & 3 x Mirage 120mm A-RGB Fans with Mobo Sync  (£56.45) 
Total: £749.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 03:43 BST+0100

He already owns a GTX 1070. That SSD is also pretty lame due to it not having any DRAM. I would stick with the Tomahawk myself.

[VEXICUS]

34 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

He already owns a GTX 1070. 

Ignore that vega..

 

34 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

That SSD is also pretty lame due to it not having any DRAM. 

Dude, SSD is SSD. I agree, that mx500 has DRAM cache and will be faster. But most of us out here use SSDs for faster boot speeds and making our user experience snappier. While on a budget, bx500 is a decent drive.

Also, there is no point in purchasing mx500 or 860 Evo currently, when budget nvme SSDs can be had fr a similar price which "OUTPERFORM" your "MX500". 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/y866Mp/patriot-scorch-512-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ps512gpm280ssdr

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6YtQzy/intel-660p-series-512gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw512g8xt

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/xpYLrH/crucial-p1-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500p1ssd8

 

34 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

I would stick with the Tomahawk myself.

MSI board is probably a little better with the actual 4 phase VRM, but if the Pro 4 is a lot cheaper then I'll probably just get that.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Ignore that vega..

 

Dude, SSD is SSD. I agree, that mx500 has DRAM catche and will be faster. But most of us out here put SSDs for faster boot speeds as compared to traditional hard drives. While on a budget, bx500 is a decent drive.

 

MSI board is probably a little better with the actual 4 phase VRM, but if the Pro 4 is a lot cheaper then I'll probably just get that.

Sure it will be faster than a HDD but not having a DRAM cache will affect performance. You are talking less than £10 extra to get one with a cache. 

 

If the op decides to wait for Ryzen 3xxx which he should then the Tomahawk is the better option. Pretty sure that the ASRock board doesn't have bios flashback so if the board isn't up to date then you are screwed. Again you are talking around £10 difference. Even some of the cheaper MSI boards have bios flashback (B450 Gaming Plus) so even less reason to go with the ASRock.

[VEXICUS]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Sure it will be faster than a HDD but not having a DRAM cache will affect performance. You are talking less than £10 extra to get one with a cache. 

 

If the op decides to wait for Ryzen 3xxx which he should then the Tomahawk is the better option. Pretty sure that the ASRock board doesn't have bios flashback so if the board isn't up to date then you are screwed. Again you are talking around £10 difference. Even some of the cheaper MSI boards have bios flashback (B450 Gaming Plus) so even less reason to go with the ASRock.

Yeah tomahawk is a good option too when the price difference is mere £10.

 

Again budget nvme drives outperform drives like mx500 & 860 Evo at a similar/less price.

[SHROUD]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Sure it will be faster than a HDD but not having a DRAM cache will affect performance. You are talking less than £10 extra to get one with a cache. 

 

If the op decides to wait for Ryzen 3xxx which he should then the Tomahawk is the better option. Pretty sure that the ASRock board doesn't have bios flashback so if the board isn't up to date then you are screwed. Again you are talking around £10 difference. Even some of the cheaper MSI boards have bios flashback (B450 Gaming Plus) so even less reason to go with the ASRock.

 

2 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Yeah tomahawk is a good option too when the price difference is mere £10.

 

Again budget nvme drives outperform drives like mx500 & 860 Evo at a similar/less price.

Lee32uk, you are wrong this time. Budget nvme outperform those drives with dram cache. There is no point in recommending them, unless they are cheaper.

Tomahawk can be had for £10 more.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, VEXICUS said:

Yeah tomahawk is a good option too when the price difference is mere £10.

 

Again budget nvme drives outperform drives like mx500 & 860 Evo at a similar/less price.

 

1 hour ago, SHROUD said:

 

Lee32uk, you are wrong this time. Budget nvme outperform those drives with dram cache. There is no point in recommending them, unless they are cheaper.

Tomahawk can be had for £10 more.

Where did I mention NVMe ? In any case those drives offer no real advantage for most people over SATA, and the cheaper ones are usually not that great anyway.  

[VEXICUS]

2 hours ago, lee32uk said:

 

Where did I mention NVMe ? In any case those drives offer no real advantage for most people over SATA, and the cheaper ones are usually not that great anyway.  

If speed is the concern for swapping the bx500 to mx500, then it can be swapped with something like Intel 660p. It's not a stellar NVMe drive, but it will be faster than the MX500 for the same money.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, VEXICUS said:

If speed is the concern for swapping the bx500 to mx500, then it can be swapped with something like Intel 660p. It's not a stellar NVMe drive, but it will be faster than the MX500 for the same money.

I wasn't talking about NVMe when I suggested the Crucial MX500. If the op is going with a SATA based SSD then he should get one with a cache. As for NVMe being faster it is on paper but for the majority of people they make little difference in real world usage. For booting windows or loading games etc there will be a negligible difference. Also if I was suggesting an NVMe drive I would go with one that performs better than the Intel 660p like a WD Black, Samsung 970 Evo/Pro or Adata SX8200 Pro. 

[VEXICUS]

3 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

I wasn't talking about NVMe when I suggested the Crucial MX500. If the op is going with a SATA based SSD then he should get one with a cache. As for NVMe being faster it is on paper but for the majority of people they make little difference in real world usage. For booting windows or loading games etc there will be a negligible difference. Also if I was suggesting an NVMe drive I would go with one that performs better than the Intel 660p like a WD Black, Samsung 970 Evo/Pro or Adata SX8200 Pro. 

Well, I selected the best SSD in that price range. MX500 and 660p cost almost the same. So, 660p should be a better buy.

Again, 970 Evo/pro they fall into entirely different territory.

Also, with bx500 he wouldn't notice much of a difference for booting up and loading games.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Well, I selected the best SSD in that price range. MX500 and 660p cost almost the same. So, 660p should be a better buy.

Again, 970 Evo/pro they fall into entirely different territory.

Also, with bx500 he wouldn't notice much of a difference for booting up and loading games.

Any SSD in that price range is going to perform pretty much the same as they will all be dram-less ones. Even Linus himself suggests avoiding them. I wouldn't buy the BX500 simple as that.

 

 

 

[Nova_107]

23 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Any SSD in that price range is going to perform pretty much the same as they will all be dram-less ones. Even Linus himself suggests avoiding them. I wouldn't buy the BX500 simple as that.

 

 

 

So for my budget, what SSD would you guys recommend, it doesn't need to be big

[Dedayog]

Crucial MX500 is my choice.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Nova_107 said:

So for my budget, what SSD would you guys recommend, it doesn't need to be big

Crucial MX500 as mentioned is good. There is also the Adata SX8200 Pro for an extra £6.90 if you want to try an NVMe drive. A bit easier to install as well due to not needing any additional cables. The Adata is also slightly bigger at 256GB vs 250GB for the MX500.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£36.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£43.39 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £79.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-26 18:22 BST+0100

[Nova_107]

2 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Crucial MX500 as mentioned is good. There is also the Adata SX8200 Pro for an extra £6.90 if you want to try an NVMe drive. A bit easier to install as well due to not needing any additional cables. The Adata is also slightly bigger at 256GB vs 250GB for the MX500.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£36.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£43.39 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £79.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-26 18:22 BST+0100

So, with changes this is the new build.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/CL107/saved/BXkf99