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PC won't boot up after Nvme m.2 install

Ah, I missed something entirely!

 

X99 (or maybe it's just this board) requires a BIOS update to use NVME M.2 drives. Remove your m.2 and flash the latest BIOS from MSI's website.

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Hey guys so I was gonna do a vid or review on here on a nice m.2 I bought but once I installed it my pc wont boot up it just stays on a black screen with a little thing at the top going on and off like the text thing.. I will add some photos and show you my settings I already tried disconnecting the hard drive and booting up still wont work, I have my OS in a 128gb ssd and games other stuff in a 2TB Hard drive I bought the M.2 to move my os there can anyone please help me figure this out? here is the link the the one I bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L6GF81L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

As you can see on the please select boot device it can see the m.2 but then it just stays in the black screen when I boot off my ssd which has the os My motherboard is a Msi X99S Krait Edition 

 

https://www.msi.com/faq/mb-1613.html

 

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1 hour ago, quiprr said:

This actually just happened to me when I was reviving an old computer. Your computer is trying to boot from a drive with no OS. I would manually boot into whatever drive has your OS on it and do everything from there.

Yeah I tried you can see the boot drives #1 is my ssd with the and it won’t boot 


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Just now, MartinWake said:

Yeah I tried you can see the boot drives #1 is my ssd with the and it won’t boot 

If you have a CMOS clear jumper then use that otherwise turn off your power supply and flush your system (press and hold power button for 10secs) then remove the battery on your mobo, wait a minute or two and put it back in


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25 minutes ago, quiprr said:

If you have a CMOS clear jumper then use that otherwise turn off your power supply and flush your system (press and hold power button for 10secs) then remove the battery on your mobo, wait a minute or two and put it back in

Will that affect it? I have it overclocked 


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2 minutes ago, quiprr said:

I think it basically restores everything back to default so your OC would be removed, yes

There has to be another way in the bios it cant be that just by installing it, it wont even boot off another drive


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11 minutes ago, MartinWake said:

There has to be another way in the bios it cant be that just by installing it, it wont even boot off another drive

I think your best bet is a factory reset. However, if you have a second PC you can use that to get a bootable USB and install Windows onto a different drive and use that interface to get to your files and such but that shouldn't be necessary


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@quiprr is correct, the PC thinks that your NVME drive has a bootable partition and is attempting to load it. There is another way, but it requires another PC with an NVME slot and a Windows install

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I would just do a clean install of Windows. Cloning a drive generally isn't a good idea. Back up important stuff and reinstall.


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3 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

@quiprr is correct, the PC thinks that your NVME drive has a bootable partition and is attempting to load it.

New to this kind of stuff so good to know I'm interpreting everything correctly :D

2 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Cloning a drive generally isn't a good idea.

Since his boot drive (with the files he would presumably need) is on flash, wouldn't he be fine? Just curious.


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1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

@quiprr is correct, the PC thinks that your NVME drive has a bootable partition and is attempting to load it. There is another way, but it requires another PC with an NVME slot and a Windows install

 

 

12 minutes ago, quiprr said:

I think your best bet is a factory reset. However, if you have a second PC you can use that to get a bootable USB and install Windows onto a different drive and use that interface to get to your files and such but that shouldn't be necessary

Look I got so more pics from the bios now it only wants to boot from the m.2 but it can see the ssd I put the pics on drive because of low mb limit https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BmyAG277keD07p2h4hMFCUIgafG4p_jX


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5 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I would just do a clean install of Windows. Cloning a drive generally isn't a good idea. Back up important stuff and reinstall.

Honestly I would do a clean install I just have to much stuff for example I have the ssd and hdd and both have files for stuff to run steam I have on ssd but the games I have on hdd if I was getting a new pc then I would probably do a clean install but just to install a m.2 I don’t really see the point it should work I don’t know maybe I should update bios still the same one from 2016


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Just now, MartinWake said:

 

Look I got so more pics from the bios now it only wants to boot from the m.2 but it can see the ssd I put the pics on drive because of low mb limit https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BmyAG277keD07p2h4hMFCUIgafG4p_jX

This confirms my suspicion. I would like to ask something, have you tried moving the SATA port the other drive is on? You have one of those boards that disable a SATA port if NVME is enabled. It is possible you unluckily ended up plugging your current bootable drive into the port that specific NVME slot disables.


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3 minutes ago, MartinWake said:

Look I got so more pics from the bios now it only wants to boot from the m.2 but it can see the ssd I put the pics on drive because of low mb limit https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BmyAG277keD07p2h4hMFCUIgafG4p_jX

Have you tried removing the M.2 and changing its boot order before you put it back in?

Edit: Basically the same thing that @SenpaiKaplan just said

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Ditto on the recommendation to do a clean install on your new NVMe. I see you have boot mode as "Legacy + UEFI" so chances are you're booting off a partition created with the MBR partitioning scheme anyway, which would kinda be wasting some of the NVMe SSD's potential (e.g. fast boot) if you clone that to your new drive. You'll get more benefits using the GPT partitioning scheme, which would mean a fresh install is needed. 

 

Do a clean install of Windows with a UEFI bootable USB created with the Windows media creation tool. UEFI boot off the USB drive, create your partition on the NVMe drive using the GPT partition scheme (which should be selected automatically if all was done correctly up to this point). Install Windows, and you're home free.

 

After all is said and done, you can change that boot mode to UEFI only to enable your board's fast boot options which all you to quickly boot into Windows going forward. 

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1 hour ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

This confirms my suspicion. I would like to ask something, have you tried moving the SATA port the other drive is on? You have one of those boards that disable a SATA port if NVME is enabled. It is possible you unluckily ended up plugging your current bootable drive into the port that specific NVME slot disables.

 

1 hour ago, quiprr said:

Have you tried removing the M.2 and changing its boot order before you put it back in?

Edit: Basically the same thing that @SenpaiKaplan just said

 

1 hour ago, SPARTAN VI said:

Ditto on the recommendation to do a clean install on your new NVMe. I see you have boot mode as "Legacy + UEFI" so chances are you're booting off a partition created with the MBR partitioning scheme anyway, which would kinda be wasting some of the NVMe SSD's potential (e.g. fast boot) if you clone that to your new drive. You'll get more benefits using the GPT partitioning scheme, which would mean a fresh install is needed. 

 

Do a clean install of Windows with a UEFI bootable USB created with the Windows media creation tool. UEFI boot off the USB drive, create your partition on the NVMe drive using the GPT partition scheme (which should be selected automatically if all was done correctly up to this point). Install Windows, and you're home free.

 

After all is said and done, you can change that boot mode to UEFI only to enable your board's fast boot options which all you to quickly boot into Windows going forward. 

 

 

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@MartinWake What you said at the end of 3 would be correct; even though your BIOS says it's gonna boot from your main boot SSD, it is forcefully attempting to boot from your M.2 drive. So when you get the chance with your M.2 installed but before it attempts to boot into it (when pressing Del would open BIOS) press F11 instead. This opens the boot menu where you can manually select your SSD.

 


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Ah, I missed something entirely!

 

X99 (or maybe it's just this board) requires a BIOS update to use NVME M.2 drives. Remove your m.2 and flash the latest BIOS from MSI's website.


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1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

X99 (or maybe it's just this board) requires a BIOS update to use NVME M.2 drives. Remove your m.2 and flash the latest BIOS from MSI's website.

Interesting, because all I found in the manual was this:

 

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Interesting, because all I found in the manual was this:

 

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▶M.2 PCH Strap Sets the M.2 interface. You have to select true interface of the installed M.2 module when a designated PCIe x16 slot is used. Please don’t adjust this item when the designated PCIe x16 slot is empty.

 

MSI forums state that older BIOS' don't like some NVME drives, and flashing the latest BIOS will for sure fix it. This drive is likely too new.


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Just now, SenpaiKaplan said:

MSI forums state that older BIOS' don't like some NVME drives, and flashing the latest BIOS will for sure fix it. This drive is likely too new.

That would be it. Maybe what I found could be helpful too but the fact that the drive wasn't even appearing in the BIOS is probably something the flash would fix


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8 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Ah, I missed something entirely!

 

X99 (or maybe it's just this board) requires a BIOS update to use NVME M.2 drives. Remove your m.2 and flash the latest BIOS from MSI's website.

 

6 minutes ago, quiprr said:

Interesting, because all I found in the manual was this:

 

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▶M.2 PCH Strap Sets the M.2 interface. You have to select true interface of the installed M.2 module when a designated PCIe x16 slot is used. Please don’t adjust this item when the designated PCIe x16 slot is empty.

 

Omg I hope a update fixes it! Anyways I need your guys help again I am a newbie to this pc stuff again so could I update my bios without having to turn on my pc and boot into windows? I have my razer laptop which I am using rn and I have a 64 GB USB and if I can, can you please point me to the direction of what I should download and how I should install it? thanks again guys!


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Guide on how to flash BIOS: https://www.msi.com/page/biosflash

 

BIOS download: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X99S-SLI-Krait-Edition

 

You will want to use version 7885vN9, it is the latest non-beta BIOS.


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