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Why I hate AMD Graphics Cards

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I feel like for my whole life I've been trying to give AMD/ATI Graphics cards a chance and have been constantly disappointed.

 

Now, I am perfectly fine with their CPUs and intend to build later this year with a Ryzen 3000 series chip (unless Intel pulls off multiple miracles) but I am almost positive I'll be going for an Nvidia Graphics card to pair with that AMD CPU. Hear me out here.

 

I had a lot of years where I would maintain 2 or even 3 gaming PCs at a time so I could do LAN games with my brothers so I've owned a lot of cards and gotten to test out quite a few over the years.

 

Graphics cards I've personally owned (that I can think of, pretty sure I got all of them)

 

AMD/ATI

Radeon 7000 (x2) (both died)

Radeon 9800 Pro (x2) (one died)

Radeon 800 XT Pro (died)

Radeon 5870

Radeon 7970 GHz edition (major coil whine, died)

 

 

Nvidia

GeForce 2 series

GeForce 4 series

GeForce 6200

Geforce 8500

GeForce 8800 GT

Geforce 8800 GTX (died)

Geforce 9400 GT

GTX 450 fermi

GTX 560 (x2 SLI)

GTX 560 SC

GTX 970 (factory overclocked)

GTX 1060

 

 

I've always used reasonably high quality and higher wattage power supplies (from the likes of Corsair, Cooler Master, Thermaltake, BFG, and EVGA). I do not overclock, ever. I have always had sufficient air cooling.

 

It's unbelievable to me how many of the Radeon cards I had simply bit the dust for no apparent reason. Even the 7970 GHz edition (by ASUS ROG), I got it replaced under warranty and sold it to buy a GTX 970 from EVGA just so I could feel sure of my computer continuing to work properly. Of all the Nvidia cards I've had, literally one of them has died, ever, and even that was after years of very demanding use.

 

I don't know what it is but my luck with Radeon series cards has been extremely bad. Nvidia has been very good to me. 

 

I hear AMD's drivers are better than they used to be but still not on par with Nvidia's. One key thing for me is wanting to play older games (even into the 90s) and I hear AMD still aren't great for that.

 

I feel like I'll be sticking with Nvidia for the foreseeable future. Not a fanboy of Nvidia but I don't really see a viable alternative at the moment.

 

Rant over.

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you do realize that the 7970 is almost 7 years old. I've had a gtx 670 and 970 short out on me, the sapphire 3870s and gigabyte vega 56s are both pieces of crap (but the asrock vega 56 is probably the best mid-range card for YEARS to come in terms of value)

 

The RTX series on launch were 1200 dollar of brick risks with the first batch of gddr6, and that's after i decided to stop buying low-end cards altogether after the 970, then the 2080 ti happened (LOL)

 

That's just consumer electronics, they kinda suck. Anyone who's worked in sales will know the feeling when consumers overpay for certain crappy products and make you wonder.

 

Oh if you do decide to go with nvidia, the 2060 probably cost like 100usd~ to make, mass produced, think about whether that ensures quality.


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15 minutes ago, dDave64 said:

Even the 7970 GHz edition (by ASUS ROG), I got it replaced under warranty and sold it to buy a GTX 970 from EVGA just so I could feel sure of my computer continuing to work properly.

in short (i had a working 7970 and replaced it becuase i was paranoid) = amd bad

I like that you listed a bunch of ati cards that aren't amd

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Really understand your plight. I had to sell an RX570 (which mind you, was my first ever AMD GPU) due to a damn bug with AMD wattman that causes it to crash and force a hard restart for no good reason. Apart from that, AMD cards really feel like cheap parts you get from budget stores and you really suffer the consequences. The really high power draw easily makes them hot enough to fck itself over. I've seen computer cafe's here needing atleast 3 ACs one 24/7 in order for their RX's to not overheat, which sucks. Looks like that RX570 is going to be my first and last AMD GPU for the meantime. Going back to Nvidia and never looking back for the moment. 


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16 minutes ago, dDave64 said:

AMD/ATI

Radeon 7000 (x2) (both died)

Radeon 9800 Pro (x2) (one died)

Radeon 800 XT Pro (died)

Radeon 5870

Radeon 7970 GHz edition (major coil whine, died

None of these cards are representative modern AMD cards. Your experiences are outdated. 


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I got a used 7950 and mined on it for 2 years straight and it was constantly 85C+ and it works fine. Same goes for my old 270X and 290X. On the other hand my 760 died after a year and a half and my 980ti died after two years. I don't think with a sample size so small you can blame any side fully. Could be your environment 


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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

I got a used 7950 and mined on it for 2 years straight and it was constantly 85C+ and it works fine. Same goes for my old 270X and 290X. On the other hand my 760 died after a year and a half and my 980ti died after two years. I don't think with a sample size so small you can blame any side fully. Could be your environment 

That's what I'm trying to figure out. What could have made them die? I do live in Colorado where the air is noticeably dryer than most other places in the country. This does make static a bit more prevalent. Maybe Radeon cards are more sensitive to that?

 

I realize I haven't had any "modern" AMD cards but with the ridiculous track record I had with them through the 7970 (yes, ATI stuff absolutely counts), can you really blame me? Especially when Nvidia has been seemingly so flawless? 

 

It's a weird statement to make, I know that. But I feel like my personal experience with it has been a major outlier because a lot of other people seem to love them.

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My HD 7950 and R9 290 worked pretty well. I was happy with them.

 

Used to have a 980 Ti Matrix, but I got a really great offer for it and resold it. Was a pretty solid card

 

So last December, I bought a Sapphire-reference Vega 64. The card seemed pretty phenomenal, and out of the box was a decisive improvement over a 290. At the beginning I was able to undervolt and tune it nicely. But then Adrenalin ruined the experience... after a certain driver version, games would randomly crash to desktop, or rarely even brick my PC requiring me to force it off.

 

I probably would have had a better experience with a more common card that AMD would have invested better drivers into, like the RX 4/580. But after my experience with my Vega 64's Adrenalin drivers, even after reverting all my tuning, I caved in and bought an RTX 2070. Nvidia's definitely got more going on the software/driver side, even if AMD is perfectly capable of making some good silicon.

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Just now, dDave64 said:

That's what I'm trying to figure out. What could have made them die? I do live in Colorado where the air is noticeably dryer than most other places in the country. This does make static a bit more prevalent. Maybe Radeon cards are more sensitive to that?

 

I realize I haven't had any "modern" AMD cards but with the ridiculous track record I had with them through the 7970 (yes, ATI stuff absolutely counts), can you really blame me? Especially when Nvidia has been seemingly so flawless? 

 

It's a weird statement to make, I know that. But I feel like my personal experience with it has been a major outlier because a lot of other people seem to love them.

Could be your houses power, PSU, there are too many variables to count. Nvidia hasn't had a perfect track record by any means and the RTX cars at launch were dying like crazy 


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I've had an RX 580 for over a year  and that has worked perfectly. Before that I had an evga GTX 950 that kept freezing and had to RMA. Then I switched to a evga 970 which died after 4 months. Rma and sold it. Rx 580 ever since

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