Raspberry Pi 4! USB 3.0, Dual 4K60 HDMI, Up to 4GB DDR4, Gigabit LAN And More!

[Chunchunmaru_]

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

can a Pi have the boot OS on a volume over LAN? o_o

for example the thing has no USB disk or SD card attached, but has an ethernet cable connected to a PC that has a network shared volume for the PI's OS

Yes, other than what is being said from others, that's a feature that pretty much every computer BIOS have

[bcredeur97]

wow. This thing is good.

I wonder if I could use one to be both a pfsense router, a NAS, and a plex server. Might be asking a bit much. lol

[The Benjamins]

4 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

wow. This thing is good.

I wonder if I could use one to be both a pfsense router, a NAS, and a plex server. Might be asking a bit much. lol

well it all depends on config and needs, if the NAS doesn't need any software raid like Raid 5 and plex is mostly doing direct streams then it would be fine. but plex transcoding and bring it to its knees

[bcredeur97]

6 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

well it all depends on config and needs, if the NAS doesn't need any software raid like Raid 5 and plex is mostly doing direct streams then it would be fine. but plex transcoding and bring it to its knees

Running all 3 would require pfsense to be virtualized most likely too.. which would prob hurt things more (esp RAM). Also not even sure if a Pi can run KVM lol

 

Think I'll stick with my old Optiplex I'm current using for this. It's just not efficient but it was very cheap.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

Running all 3 would require pfsense to be virtualized most likely too.. which would prob hurt things more (esp RAM). Also not even sure if a Pi can run KVM lol

 

Think I'll stick with my old Optiplex I'm current using for this. It's just not efficient but it was very cheap.

I thought pfsense could do the NAS and run plex. I don't know too much about it.

[Master Disaster]

Gonna order mine on Friday to replace my ageing 2.

 

Watching some videos on the 4 running the new Raspbian version it looks super fast. Booting takes under 10 seconds and it streams 4K YouTube videos with zero stuttering.

 

I also love the look of the included keyboard in the desktop set so I'm gonna spend the £100 and order that.

[captain cactus]

Looked more into it. Shame it doesn't have any eMMC capabilities, not even as an add-on board. Micro-SD is sloooow.

 

For the 4B+ maybe?

 

[Chunchunmaru_]

9 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

Running all 3 would require pfsense to be virtualized most likely too.. which would prob hurt things more (esp RAM). Also not even sure if a Pi can run KVM lol

 

Think I'll stick with my old Optiplex I'm current using for this. It's just not efficient but it was very cheap.

A Pi can run KVM. But not x86, as "normal X86 PC machines" cannot use KVM with arm

[iamdarkyoshi]

2 minutes ago, captain cactus said:

Looked more into it. Shame it doesn't have any eMMC capabilities, not even as an add-on board. Micro-SD is sloooow.

 

For the 4B+ maybe?

 

Look into the samsung evo select cards. I had one in my 3B+ and it was actually really fast and responsive, and since they've upgraded the SD controller, it should be even quicker. Samsung claims 100MB/S read and 90MB/s write, and I can confirm those speeds are obtainable. 

[iamdarkyoshi]

5 hours ago, LeSheen said:

I have a 3b with heatsinks(came with the case), it barely makes a difference if you don't actively cool it. Furthermore it can handle the heat, it's designed like that. If not it will throttle down, but never had it happen to me except in the summer or with an OC.

I've had good luck just slapping a larger heatsink on them. A small block of aluminium as a spacer and a chipset heatsink from an old motherboard work well, or like the one on my emulationstation, just a solid machined aluminium case will be more than adequate. I do agree that most of the heatsinks for sale are useless though.

[WereCatf]

I want one of the 4GB-ones, but....those cost 72€ or more, plus shipping, here in Europe! I can't justify paying that much for one, especially since I just want it into my collection, not because I actually have any use for one; I have a whole bunch of SBCs and I can't find any actual use for any of them and they just end up sitting pretty and collecting dust.

[bcredeur97]

15 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

I thought pfsense could do the NAS and run plex. I don't know too much about it.

it actually probably could if you messed with it. Underneath it's just a FreeBSD OS.

idk if I want to do that much work though

[The Benjamins]

Just now, bcredeur97 said:

it actually probably could if you messed with it. Underneath it's just a FreeBSD OS.

idk if I want to do that much work though

ya, what makes plex great is transcoding but that is where you need a good CPU.

[bcredeur97]

33 minutes ago, Tedny said:

67 Euro for 4Gb.... oh, Pi's getting expensive 

At least they give you the $35 1GB option still which is fine for most people who use it as a very basic desktop or for most electronics projects.

 

RAM is just expensive I guess

[WereCatf]

2 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

At least they give you the $35 1GB

But it's not $35, it's 46€ here in Europe

[bcredeur97]

5 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

But it's not $35, it's 46€ here in Europe

interesting. why is it so much more? 46 euros is $52

[WereCatf]

2 minutes ago, Tedny said:

that 4GB for security Camera will be a big upgrade

Why would you need 4GB RAM just for a security-camera?

[Zodiark1593]

5 hours ago, cluelessgenius said:

 

I'm kind of torn myself. The Pi 4 provides the performance to run the excellent Beetle PSX core that I've wanted for some time along with high quality CRT shaders. 8 watts is pretty bonkers though, and would be difficult to find something I already have on hand that can feed it. I feel a die shrunk, high clocked Cortex A53 array (or even Cortex A73)  may have been a more prudent choice, though it seems the Pi Foundation wanted the floating-point performance from A72s for some reason. Let's hope underclocking and undervolting are feasible.

[samcool55]

33 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

But it's not $35, it's 46€ here in Europe

Have you shopped around a bit? I found them for 37 euros without shipping (depends where you live)

https://www.rasppishop.de/Raspberry-Pi-4-Modell-B-1GB-SDRAM

[MadDuke]

microHDMI is the worst connector of all time.  Unfortunately. 

 

microSD support is still capped seriously.  50MBps versus the old 25MBps  as I can see.  I know I can use the faster USB 3.0 but I would honestly rather use super fast micro SD cards to store everything if I can. 

 

Hoping for Compute Module 4 to come out

 

23 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Have you shopped around a bit? I found them for 37 euros without shipping (depends where you live)

https://www.rasppishop.de/Raspberry-Pi-4-Modell-B-1GB-SDRAM

 

That's 42 USD

 

Pi 3B+ is 50 USD or 44.5 EUR in Croatia as an example. 

[The King of the Undead]

2 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Running all 3 would require pfsense to be virtualized most likely too.. which would prob hurt things more (esp RAM). Also not even sure if a Pi can run KVM lol

 

Think I'll stick with my old Optiplex I'm current using for this. It's just not efficient but it was very cheap.

just do 2!

[matrix07012]

3 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Running all 3 would require pfsense to be virtualized most likely too.. which would prob hurt things more (esp RAM). Also not even sure if a Pi can run KVM lol

 

Think I'll stick with my old Optiplex I'm current using for this. It's just not efficient but it was very cheap.

Looks like it can run KVM

https://medium.com/@valdiz777/setting-up-kvm-on-raspberry-pi-3-using-a-64bit-opensuse-pi3-leap-42-2-xfce-image-22faddf02f48

[suicidalfranco]

Projects currently in mind:

- Poor man's media server

- PS2Portable

- remove all ports, try to fit in a super slim shell, and make a better a faster, faster PocketCHIP

- giving pi cluster another go

[DubMFG]

I am very, very excited for this. The dual screen potential, 4gb ram, and gigabit lan are going to make this little guy a POWERFUL SOC. Not that Rpi's weren't already amazing, this is just, extra amazing. 

[manikyath]

11 hours ago, LeSheen said:

Does anyone know if ethernet and usb still go over the same bus?

Would make an nice and cheap NAS otherwise.

been looking into that as well, but presumably this time that's a usb 3.0 bus, so it at least improves *some* of the bottleneck.

 

there's a few raspberry pi knockoffs that are MUCH better at NAS duty tho, cant exactly recall which ones, but there's some out there that have LAN, WLAN, and SATA coming straight out the chipset.