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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm selling a build today. The guy doesn't seem to know a lot about PCs. His son wants to play arma 3 and squad. The system has a ryzen 5 1600 and an RX 580 8gb.

 

The buyer asked if he picked up a hard drive if I could install. I said sure and sent him to microcenter.

 

The buyer calls me from the store and says that a salesman told him that he needs a more powerful graphics card. He wanted to sell him a 1660ti for $270. He told him that an rx 580 is not powerful enough and the game WOULD NOT WORK. WOULD NOT WORK!!!

 

Recommended settings on arma 3 is gtx 660 for crying out load. 

 

I don't mind if the gut l guy said that the 1660ti is a more powerful card. True enough. But you have to lie?

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He's a salesman, his job is to convince people to buy stuff.


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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typical retail salesman imo.


| Intel i7-3770@4.2Ghz | Asus Z77-V | Zotac 980 Ti Amp! Omega | DDR3 1800mhz 4GB x4 | 300GB Intel DC S3500 SSD | 512GB Plextor M5 Pro | 2x 1TB WD Blue HDD |
 | Enermax NAXN82+ 650W 80Plus Bronze | Fiio E07K | Grado SR80i | Cooler Master XB HAF EVO | Logitech G27 | Logitech G600 | CM Storm Quickfire TK | DualShock 4 |

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

He's a salesman, his job is to convince people to buy stuff.

The truth is not good enough? The 1660ti is a better card. What's wrong with just saying that?

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Just now, Sat1600 said:

The truth is not good enough? The 1660ti is a better card. What's wrong with just saying that?

Be angry at the buyer who can't be bothered to do a quick google search to understand roughly how these products stack up rather than the person just doing his job.


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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| Intel i7-3770@4.2Ghz | Asus Z77-V | Zotac 980 Ti Amp! Omega | DDR3 1800mhz 4GB x4 | 300GB Intel DC S3500 SSD | 512GB Plextor M5 Pro | 2x 1TB WD Blue HDD |
 | Enermax NAXN82+ 650W 80Plus Bronze | Fiio E07K | Grado SR80i | Cooler Master XB HAF EVO | Logitech G27 | Logitech G600 | CM Storm Quickfire TK | DualShock 4 |

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31 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

I'm selling a build today. The guy doesn't seem to know a lot about PCs. His son wants to play arma 3 and squad. The system has a ryzen 5 1600 and an RX 580 8gb.

 

The buyer asked if he picked up a hard drive if I could install. I said sure and sent him to microcenter.

 

The buyer calls me from the store and says that a salesman told him that he needs a more powerful graphics card. He wanted to sell him a 1660ti for $270. He told him that an rx 580 is not powerful enough and the game WOULD NOT WORK. WOULD NOT WORK!!!

 

Recommended settings on arma 3 is gtx 660 for crying out load. 

 

I don't mind if the gut l guy said that the 1660ti is a more powerful card. True enough. But you have to lie?

 

 

Welcome to Microcenter.


This is why I tell people to use their pickup now instead of finding it themselves. It's pretty much know what you're there for, or get talked into buying something you don't need.


We had a guy in a game I play go to Microcenter to buy new monitors to use with his 1080ti (Was using a TV)

Got talked into buying 1080p freesync monitors, even though we told him to get Gync Monitors. (2 years ish ago.)

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19 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

The truth is not good enough? The 1660ti is a better card. What's wrong with just saying that?

it happens on all levels, ur buyer doesn't know anything, while even as builders we don't know what's exactly under the hood of certain products, which is why in retrospec i make at least 1 mistake on every build in retrospec. As for the salesman, he's just doing his job, not every1 has the balls to quit their job if the only thing they have to do is dish out minor lie to customers, and they both go home happy (ignorance is bliss).

 

I quit a very easy job back in the days because i had to lie daily about the actual components of certain products, i quit after awhile mainly because of that, but financially it made 0 sense for me lol.

 

Both sides are at fault in this case imho, ur buyer isn't doing basic research, and the salesman lying, happens on the daily, not something to lose sleep over.

 

With experience it's much more satisfying to convince someone to buy a premium product without having to lie, but that's a niche market, not every1 appreciates quality anyway, alot of customers just want cheap.


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There is an easy way to tell if a salesman is lying. If his lips are moving, he is lying.

 

I find it appalling that people here feel it is alright for sales people to lie with some even saying it is their job to do so. Lying to a customer is called fraud and is illegal.


Jeannie

 

As long as anyone is oppressed, no one will be safe and free.

One has to be proactive, not reactive, to ensure the safety of one's data so backup your data! And RAID is NOT a backup!

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, Madhacker said:

Just relax, it's a salesman, one day someone will call him / her out for BS

Oh I got him on the phone and called him out. I'm annoyed that he was making me out to be a liar. Here I am telling him that this is a great 1080p gaming pc and it won't even run arma3

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