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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello guys I am planning to kill my current PC and build a new one since I have had this one for 10 years. Because this is my first PC build I want to see if any people can find any issues with m ideas and how to address them.

My budget is kind of unlimited as i have lobbed aside £200 a week for the last year so I got about £10k to mess around with (but I am not trying to spend 10k for spending sake)

The build is designed to be a gaming set up mostly for 2 1440p 144 monitors and 1 4k 144 monitor. However it will also be used for 3D work. 

As for look I am going for a Black and White theme mostly with hints of blue. (not sure if that effects anything) ( i will put all the parts on their own line so they stand out)

The case I am planning to put it in is the

 

Antec Torque

 

mostly just for style choices.

The motherboard I am planning on is

 

MSI MEG Z390 Godlike

 

(unless something happens in july I am waiting for public amd results) 

and for the Cpu the generic

 

Intel i9-9900k

 

(unless the stuff with AMD makes me change my mind)

for the Ram I am planning to use

 

Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB DDR4-3200MHz (4 sticks)

 

As for memory I am deciding between a 

 

FireCuda 510 SSD

and a 

samsung 970 pro

 

(I would like some help with this decision)

 

on top of that I will have a 

 

Intel Optane 32 gb to boost a 

seagate barracuda pro 12tb

 

due to the height of the ram I am planning to go with a

 

H150i pro for the CPU cooler

 

a question I have regarding this cooler is how many fans can I put on it without fucking up the rest of the pc? I was planning to put 6 fans on it (3 push 3 pull)

and mount it on the front of the case since I think the is to much space at the front and the is not much filling it up so I might as well lower the temperatures a bit.

The fans I am planning to put on the cooler are the

 

ML120 PRO RGB LED 120MM PWM Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan (i copy and pasted that cba to type lol)

 

and for the case the 140 version of the same fans. this would 3 case fans on top being 140 mm and 6 at the front for the radiator. Would I be able to fit all these fans in? (i know the benefit is minimal but if the is a benefit I want to do it my room gets to hot as it is because it is above a kitchen and is stupidly isolated so like no heat escapes) 

The power supply I am planning to use is the

 

ROG Thor ATX12V/EPS12V

 

mostly so i can see the power it is using by just glancing at the side of the case. 

Lastly the GPU I plan to use are

 

2 ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

 

which is another reason I want the 6 fans at the front and 3 at the top. 

 

The cost so far is looking about £5450 with GPUS and £3050 without GPUS. So those are my plans if you have any advice and if the are any other things I should wait for apart from AMD let me know. .

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8 minutes ago, Yordlezeus said:

and for the case the 140 version of the same fans. this would 3 case fans on top being 140 mm and 6 at the front for the radiator. Would I be able to fit all these fans in? (i know the benefit is minimal but if the is a benefit I want to do it my room gets to hot as it is because it is above a kitchen and is stupidly isolated so like no heat escapes) 

 

This won't help if it's already hot in there, and will make more noise,

Is there a wy to make a window that you can open somehow? Fresh and cool air, better for you and your pc

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2 ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

 

One would be enough

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A few things...

 

First of all, looks pretty solid. Good job.

-I'd skip the optane module. At that price point, if speed is a concern, I'd throw some SATA SSDs in there. The 970 Pro is a great SSD, hang on to that.

 

-I prefer Corsair power supplies. 

 

-I'd put the radiator in the top of the case, if possible. It will kick out a lot of heat, and the graphics cards will need as much cool air as they can get. And push-pull fans won't help a lot with a relatively thin rad IMO.

 

-What sort of 3d work do you do?


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why would you do something so damn overpriced? this would be much better valuewise

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
22 minutes ago, Likwid said:

This won't help if it's already hot in there, and will make more noise,

Is there a wy to make a window that you can open somehow? Fresh and cool air, better for you and your pc

sorry this is my first time using this forum i dont know if a "quote" and a reply are the same thing. I have AC which is on 24/7 which I keep the room at 16 C with (I like it cold). I was hoping if I put more fans on it would allow more air to pass the vent (instead of putting a Delta PFR0912xHE on it or something lol

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24 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Mostly just a "my taste" sort of thing like with the power supply its just being able to see the power on the side of the supply itself. Its not a big thing, its not an important thing but its something I want so i am willing to spend the extra. Same sort of thing with the case. No one has it and I think it looks interesting and reminds me of my R1 so I want to try it. If I end up not liking it I dont really mind the money I spent on it and will just buy another case and give the antec one to a friend. So yeah no real reason but personal taste (insert picture of being an "I-idiot with 2 coffee cups and one being $4 and one being $12)

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Just now, Yordlezeus said:

Mostly just a "my taste" sort of thing like with the power supply its just being able to see the power on the side of the supply itself.

aand you're paying a stupidly high amount for a pimped up seasonic prime with only one rail and a little better fan. the hx might not perform like a prime, but at least won't send over 100a amps through a defective part before shutting down through ocp or opp

 

it doesn't happen much, but you rather have 1/2 or 1/4th of that current trough it


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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

aand you're paying a stupidly high amount for a pimped up seasonic prime with only one rail and a little better fan. the hx might not perform like a prime, but at least won't send over 100a amps through a defective part before shutting down through ocp or opp

 

it doesn't happen much, but you rather have 1/2 or 1/4th of that current trough it

I am sorry could you explain this in greater detail to me? I though the Rog one had all the normal protections? if not then that would be a factor that would make me change supplies. 

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That Godlike motherboard, once I read that I stopped since I didn't see any LN2 listed.

 

Focus on what you want the build to do, not what is most expensive.  Listen to @LukeSavenije.


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8 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

That Godlike motherboard, once I read that I stopped since I didn't see any LN2 listed.

 

Focus on what you want the build to do, not what is most expensive.  Listen to @LukeSavenije.

im sorry but could you explain what you mean by LN2? like my brain goes to liquid nitrogen but surly you mean something else...

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23 minutes ago, Yordlezeus said:

I am sorry could you explain this in greater detail to me? I though the Rog one had all the normal protections? if not then that would be a factor that would make me change supplies. 

the ROG strix is based of the Seasonic Prime platform (yes, that prime). all prime psus use a single 12 volt rail, rated at the amperage of the advertised wattage (in thor's case 850 and 1200). but a psu won't turn off at 100% wattage, they generally do it between 120 and 140%. a psu has protections that stop it earlier SOMETIMES. that's the base info you need.

 

a single rail can be seen as one point of check at the current that's going through the cable, multi rail can be seen as multiple checkpoints. so when a single rail psu will turn off at 100a, a 2-rail will turn off at 50a, a 4-rail at 25a and so on

 

that isn't a problem on lower wattage units, but when you have a psu at 1200 watts, you can have 144 amps or more going though it before it shuts off

 

let's say your gpu shorts and the undervoltage protection doesn't notice it, you get 144 amps going through a single cable, which burns it

 

with a multirail it'll shut off earlier, and not burn the cable

 

it's that simple.

 

if you want digital monitoring, look at the axi and hxi from corsair for example

2 minutes ago, Yordlezeus said:

im sorry but could you explain what you mean by LN2? like my brain goes to liquid nitrogen but surly you mean something else...

he does, that's where the board is made for


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im sorry but could you explain what you mean by LN2? like my brain goes to liquid nitrogen but surly you mean something else...

The Godlike is an ultra premium board for overlocking the 9900K as far as it will go.  Couple with Liquid Nitrogen cooling to set records.  By listing it and not mentioning extreme overclocking, you're talking about buying a Ferrari for commuting to work.  The potential of the board is wasted.

 

You want to buy a $600 motherboard for why?  


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2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

The Godlike is an ultra premium board for overlocking the 9900K as far as it will go.  Couple with Liquid Nitrogen cooling to set records.  By listing it and not mentioning extreme overclocking, you're talking about buying a Ferrari for commuting to work.  The potential of the board is wasted.

 

You want to buy a $600 motherboard for why?  

real answer? rpg vs a sniper. its also just the motherboard I see listed with the 9900k the most and I dont know much about motherboards so i just by the "the has gotta be SOME reason". but im just going "gpu? yes, all the storage?yes etc etc" but now im interested in the LN2 thing. I work with it a decent amount so sounds fun. 

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real answer? rpg vs a sniper. its also just the motherboard I see listed with the 9900k the most and I dont know much about motherboards so i just by the "the has gotta be SOME reason". but im just going "gpu? yes, all the storage?yes etc etc" but now im interested in the LN2 thing. I work with it a decent amount so sounds fun. 

Lol, Luke listed a board that works as well.  The LN2 cooling isn't a constant thing to do daily, it's a one off.   You do it once, get records, done.  You can't put on an LN2 cooler and close your PC up and all is good for years :)

 

 


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Just now, jstudrawa said:

uke listed a board that works as well.

and can easily do 5+ ghz on a good enough chip


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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

and can easily do 5+ ghz on a good enough chip

ok I will follow your advice about the motherboard and cpu but could you provide some input on the firecuba 510 vs samsung 970 pro thing?

I would like to stick with the h150 because I am not personally a fan of big heatsinks. the ram and graphics card I am a bit one way or the other if they do the job sort of thing.

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ok I will follow your advice about the motherboard and cpu but could you provide some input on the firecuba 510 vs samsung 970 pro thing?

I would like to stick with the h150 because I am not personally a fan of big heatsinks. the ram and graphics card I am a bit one way or the other if they do the job sort of thing.

then get a h115i, h150i doesn't perform that well

 

i'm not that familiar with the firecuda, so i won't take that

 

btw, zen 2 is releasing 7/7, and has 12/24 chips for the price of that 9900k, pcie 4.0 and in august even a 16/32 that already broke multiple records on ln2


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Between the Firecuda and the Samsung, they're both NVMe drives with roughly the same pricing.  Pick either.  


What's your basis for going SLI with 2080Ti's?  I assume you think they'll give you double the performance of a single 2080Ti?

 

 


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Just now, jstudrawa said:

Between the Firecuda and the Samsung, they're both NVMe drives with roughly the same pricing.  Pick either.  


What's your basis for going SLI with 2080Ti's?  I assume you think they'll give you double the performance of a single 2080Ti?

 

 

i dont think it will double but it should effect graphic performance a decent amount? (or am i just even stupidier then I expected? I mean im on here cause I know I know fuck all basically xD) and I had the idea of just putting the 4k into one of them and the 2 1440 into the other. and I just kind of always done it since like 2005. like even in this current system I swap to 2 of the top graphics cards for that gen. its just this system is so old it needs a cpu upgrade which leads to a motherboard upgrade which I now need to go from ddr3 to ddr4 and the powersupply is old so I might as well change that and my brother fucked my case up so fuck it might as well change that (he forced 2 different USB`s in upside down…) the hardrive was top of the line 10 years ago but not today(pretty much the same with the rest). so it just feels a bit weird going "IM TAKING ONLY THE 1080s!". I am not really a how or why kind of person im just a results based kind of person. "smashing a lock with a hammer took 5 seconds and trying to unpick it took you 5 minutes" sort of thing. 

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I assume you are only gaming on a single monitor ? in which case the other two don't need to be high refresh rate ones. If it was me I would go 34" 3440 x 1440 120Hz for the main gaming screen and then 2 x 4K ones for productivity/non gaming.

 

As mentioned, you should hang fire a few weeks for Ryzen 3xxx. If you want a top end board the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme should tick all the boxes.

 

https://www.aorus.com/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10


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Just now, lee32uk said:

I assume you are only gaming on a single monitor ? in which case the other two don't need to be high refresh rate ones. If it was me I would go 34" 3440 x 1440 120Hz for the main gaming screen and then 2 x 4K ones for productivity/non gaming.

 

As mentioned, you should hang fire a few weeks for Ryzen 3xxx. If you want a top end board the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme should tick all the boxes.

i already have the monitors so I am not really planning on changing those. I am just changing the pc because the CPU really needs an upgrade which means the motherboard really needs an upgrade and while im at it I might as well go from dd3 - dd4 etc xD I do generally game on 1440 over 4k ones because for some reason the 4k one makes my eyes itch. (even tho its the exact same model... just in 4k xD)

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this one is good enough :
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£455.58 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£67.11 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI - MEG Z390 ACE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£236.43 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG SPECTRIX D41 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£123.11 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG SPECTRIX D41 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£123.11 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Intel - 760p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£169.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gainward - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Phoenix "GS" Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (£1079.40 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Gainward - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Phoenix "GS" Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (£1079.40 @ Alza) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£74.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£145.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £3553.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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3 hours ago, ahmad13610 said:

this one is good enough :
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£455.58 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£67.11 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI - MEG Z390 ACE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£236.43 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG SPECTRIX D41 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£123.11 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG SPECTRIX D41 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£123.11 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Intel - 760p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£169.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gainward - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Phoenix "GS" Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (£1079.40 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Gainward - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Phoenix "GS" Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (£1079.40 @ Alza) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£74.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£145.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £3553.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-21 08:03 BST+0100

 

Why would you go with that board when you can get the Aorus Master for the same ? Also no video outputs on that board so no iGPU if you need to troubleshoot.

 

I doubt that ram will fit under the cooler.

 

An Adata SX8200 Pro is cheaper if you wanted NVMe.

 

The Gigabyte Gaming OC is the same price and has UK RMA and 4 years warranty.

 

That case is going to choke that system. No idea why you wouldn't pick something with better airflow like the H500M or P600S etc.


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