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Building on the budget. What would you change?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi all
I have a budget of about 300 dollars and with some help I managed to pick out some parts.
( the reall plan is to spend as little as possible and still get awesome pc )

This PC will be used for video editing


Im posting to ask you guys 3 questions :
1. Are they all compatible ?
2. Is there any way I could swop the mobo for something cheaper with without losing quality?
3. Is the gup going to butte neck ?

I know I could go for a lover end CPU  like r3. Im still deciding on what I should do.

As far as the case goes I might be able to use something that is laying around the house.


PCPartPicker Part List:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $75.61 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $34.89 @ OutletPC
Power Supply EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $32.39 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $292.78
  Mail-in rebates -$40.00
  Total $252.78
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-19 17:27 EDT-0400  

 

GPU: EVGA GeForce GT 710 2GB (Single Slot, Dual DVI)
https://www.evga.com/products/feature.aspx

 

 

What would you change?

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Hi! Well to answer your first question, yes, everything is compatible. As for the second question, the B450M Pro4 is a fantastic board. However unless you need the USB-C port or just really like its PCIe layout, you could get something like this and save a few bucks: 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157871?Description=B450M motherboard&cm_re=B450M_motherboard-_-13-157-871-_-Product

 

As for the GPU, you will be using the CPU more than anything so it should be fine. I'm assuming you already own the card? 


Laptop: 2016 13" nTB MacBook Pro Core i5 | Phone: iPhone 8 Plus 64GB | Wearables: Apple Watch Sport Series 2 | CPU: R5 2600 | Mobo: ASRock B450M Pro4 | RAM: 16GB 2666 | GPU: ASRock RX 5700 8GB | Case: Apple PowerMac G5 | OS: Win 10 | Storage: 480GB PNY SSD & 2TB WD Green HDD | PSU: Corsair CX600M | Display: Dell 27 Gaming Monitor S2719DGF 1440p @155Hz, Dell UZ2215H 21.5" 1080p, ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED 23.6" 1080p | Cooling: Wraith Prism | Keyboard: G610 Orion Cherry MX Brown | Mouse: G303 | Audio: Audio Technica ATH-M50X & Blue Snowball
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That GPU isn't worth the shot I would recommend something like this: 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $134.69 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $74.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $32.39 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $337.06
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $317.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-19 17:42 EDT-0400  

it goes a little bit over the $300 but even when loosing 2 cores you gain clock speed and an integrated GPU that's gonna be much better than the gt 710 and you could get a rx580 later on. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Hi! Well to answer your first question, yes, everything is compatible. As for the second question, the B450M Pro4 is a fantastic board. However unless you need the USB-C port or just really like its PCIe layout, you could get something like this and save a few bucks: 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157871?Description=B450M motherboard&cm_re=B450M_motherboard-_-13-157-871-_-Product

 

As for the GPU, you will be using the CPU more than anything so it should be fine. I'm assuming you already own the card? 

I do not own the card yet

Still considering my options

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3 minutes ago, Tjdraxus said:

 

 

it goes a little bit over the $300 but even when loosing 2 cores you gain clock speed and an integrated GPU that's gonna be much better than the gt 710 and you could get a rx580 later on. 

This is a rig for video editing. Core count is all that matters at this price range. The GPU is essentially just a display out. 


Laptop: 2016 13" nTB MacBook Pro Core i5 | Phone: iPhone 8 Plus 64GB | Wearables: Apple Watch Sport Series 2 | CPU: R5 2600 | Mobo: ASRock B450M Pro4 | RAM: 16GB 2666 | GPU: ASRock RX 5700 8GB | Case: Apple PowerMac G5 | OS: Win 10 | Storage: 480GB PNY SSD & 2TB WD Green HDD | PSU: Corsair CX600M | Display: Dell 27 Gaming Monitor S2719DGF 1440p @155Hz, Dell UZ2215H 21.5" 1080p, ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED 23.6" 1080p | Cooling: Wraith Prism | Keyboard: G610 Orion Cherry MX Brown | Mouse: G303 | Audio: Audio Technica ATH-M50X & Blue Snowball
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3 minutes ago, max668 said:

I do not own the card yet

Still considering my options

How much is that GPU? 


Laptop: 2016 13" nTB MacBook Pro Core i5 | Phone: iPhone 8 Plus 64GB | Wearables: Apple Watch Sport Series 2 | CPU: R5 2600 | Mobo: ASRock B450M Pro4 | RAM: 16GB 2666 | GPU: ASRock RX 5700 8GB | Case: Apple PowerMac G5 | OS: Win 10 | Storage: 480GB PNY SSD & 2TB WD Green HDD | PSU: Corsair CX600M | Display: Dell 27 Gaming Monitor S2719DGF 1440p @155Hz, Dell UZ2215H 21.5" 1080p, ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED 23.6" 1080p | Cooling: Wraith Prism | Keyboard: G610 Orion Cherry MX Brown | Mouse: G303 | Audio: Audio Technica ATH-M50X & Blue Snowball
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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

This is a rig for video editing. Core count is all that matters at this price range. The GPU is essentially just a display out. 

would you say that COPU is more important then GPU in a video editing rig ?
In other words - Whats more important ?

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Just now, max668 said:

would you say that COPU is more important then GPU in a video editing rig ?
In other words - Whats more important ?

CPU, hands down. Any GPU will help accelerate the work, but the CPU is going to be thing thing that renders the video at the end of the day. 


Laptop: 2016 13" nTB MacBook Pro Core i5 | Phone: iPhone 8 Plus 64GB | Wearables: Apple Watch Sport Series 2 | CPU: R5 2600 | Mobo: ASRock B450M Pro4 | RAM: 16GB 2666 | GPU: ASRock RX 5700 8GB | Case: Apple PowerMac G5 | OS: Win 10 | Storage: 480GB PNY SSD & 2TB WD Green HDD | PSU: Corsair CX600M | Display: Dell 27 Gaming Monitor S2719DGF 1440p @155Hz, Dell UZ2215H 21.5" 1080p, ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED 23.6" 1080p | Cooling: Wraith Prism | Keyboard: G610 Orion Cherry MX Brown | Mouse: G303 | Audio: Audio Technica ATH-M50X & Blue Snowball
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5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

This is a rig for video editing. Core count is all that matters at this price range. The GPU is essentially just a display out. 

You are right. I didn't read the part where he mention the video editing. 

Edit: Also the R5 1600 doesn't come with a stock cooler does it? 
 

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2 minutes ago, max668 said:

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How much more are you willing to spend on the GPU? 


Laptop: 2016 13" nTB MacBook Pro Core i5 | Phone: iPhone 8 Plus 64GB | Wearables: Apple Watch Sport Series 2 | CPU: R5 2600 | Mobo: ASRock B450M Pro4 | RAM: 16GB 2666 | GPU: ASRock RX 5700 8GB | Case: Apple PowerMac G5 | OS: Win 10 | Storage: 480GB PNY SSD & 2TB WD Green HDD | PSU: Corsair CX600M | Display: Dell 27 Gaming Monitor S2719DGF 1440p @155Hz, Dell UZ2215H 21.5" 1080p, ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED 23.6" 1080p | Cooling: Wraith Prism | Keyboard: G610 Orion Cherry MX Brown | Mouse: G303 | Audio: Audio Technica ATH-M50X & Blue Snowball
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5 minutes ago, max668 said:

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If you're buying that specific card you could try to go for this 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $74.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $32.39 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $312.26
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $292.26
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-19 17:59 EDT-0400  

Back to your original plan on the cpu but with faster memory and you could upgrade your GPU later on 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

How much more are you willing to spend on the GPU? 

I really want to be bellow 300 dollars.

so to answer your question Ill say 30 - 40 dollars?

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, Tjdraxus said:


If you're buying that specific card you could try to go for this 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $74.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $32.39 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $312.26
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $292.26
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-19 17:59 EDT-0400  

Back to your original plan on the cpu but with faster memory and you could upgrade your GPU later on 

So what you are saying use that build ^ and the GPU I have posted ( EVGA GeForce GT 710 2GB (Single Slot, Dual DVI)  ) ?

I also changed the MOBO

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7tbBb

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $242.06 +30 (for the GPU ) = 272.06

 

 

I could go up in ram but thats 75 dollars XD

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4 minutes ago, max668 said:

So what you are saying use that build ^ and the GPU I have posted ( EVGA GeForce GT 710 2GB (Single Slot, Dual DVI)  ) ?

I also changed the MOBO

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7tbBb

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $242.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-19 18:05 EDT-0400

 

I could go up in ram but thats 75 dollars XD

Going for faster ram is worth it for future proofing but use my suggestion as data for your research wait for more replies also look for more opinions so you end up with the most bang for the buck. 

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11 minutes ago, Tjdraxus said:

Going for faster ram is worth it for future proofing but use my suggestion as data for your research wait for more replies also look for more opinions so you end up with the most bang for the buck. 

You said faster . Did you mean more ram?
Ram speed doesn't make that big of a difference right, thats what I have always heard and been told.
Linus did a video about it. Unless things have changed...

If thats the case

How about :
G.Skill - NT Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gRkwrH/gskill-memory-f42133c15d16gnt

its 56 $

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5 hours ago, max668 said:

You said faster . Did you mean more ram?
Ram speed doesn't make that big of a difference right, thats what I have always heard and been told.
Linus did a video about it. Unless things have changed...

If thats the case

How about :
G.Skill - NT Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gRkwrH/gskill-memory-f42133c15d16gnt

its 56 $

Well ryzen performs a bit better with faster ram not sure if the 1st gen do as well, also check that the R5 1600 comes with a cooler or you'll have to purchase a cooling solution

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Tjdraxus said:

Well ryzen performs a bit better with faster ram not sure if the 1st gen do as well, also check that the R5 1600 comes with a cooler or you'll have to purchase a cooling solution

wait are you telling me that AMD CPU doesnt come with a cooler ?

I have some intel coolers laying around... I bet they are junk though

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6 minutes ago, Tjdraxus said:

Well ryzen performs a bit better with faster ram not sure if the 1st gen do as well, also check that the R5 1600 comes with a cooler or you'll have to purchase a cooling solution

only the 1600x, 1700x and 1800x don't come with stock coolers.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Biostar X370GT7 case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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7 hours ago, max668 said:

I really want to be bellow 300 dollars.

so to answer your question Ill say 30 - 40 dollars?

 

In that GPU range, I'd look at perhaps a used R7 260X:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HIS-R7-260X-2GB-Dual-Fan-Graphics-Card-2-3-Day-Shipping/113789491261?hash=item1a7e61d83d:g:fa4AAOSwrWhdCcNV:sc:USPSPriority!81625!US!-1

 

It's a current performance competitor to the GTX 750Ti at a lower price and is still a distant win over the Vega 11 in the 2400G, even when OCed.

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2 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

In that GPU range, I'd look at perhaps a used R7 260X:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HIS-R7-260X-2GB-Dual-Fan-Graphics-Card-2-3-Day-Shipping/113789491261?hash=item1a7e61d83d:g:fa4AAOSwrWhdCcNV:sc:USPSPriority!81625!US!-1

 

It's a current performance competitor to the GTX 750Ti at a lower price and is still a distant win over the Vega 11 in the 2400G, even when OCed.

how are you my friend ? how have you been ?

 

thx for posting

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14 minutes ago, max668 said:

if anything, that is worse than the list. also, i already hunted the parts for you.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Biostar X370GT7 case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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14 minutes ago, max668 said:

That unit does have some advantages: i5 CPU...

Disadvantages: Small factor case, so limited upgradeability, GTX 1030... yuck, cheapo MOBO and PSU.

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