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Which PSU to take?

Efficiency is not the issue, what we care about is PSU quality. Anything Tier B or above in the PSU Tier List is probably fine, though I'd air on the side of A and up to be safe. 550w is fine for that rig.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I have the following specifications,

Ryzen 7 2700x

RTX 2060 GPU

1 SSD

1 7.2K RPM HDD

3200MHZ RAM 32(8x4)

Hero 7 mobo

2 fans 

1 NZXT x62 kraken

some RGB components - GPU backplate n some RGB strips

 

roughly power Wattage recommended via MSI and outervision was 477W. So can I go with (80+ 550W Cooler Master MWE Gold Fully Modular) or any of its equivalent.

Or with 80+ 650W. 

 

I am unable to understand does 80% efficiency mean (0.8*650W=)520W or 650W (if the SMPS is named 650W).

Please explain.

 

Can I go with Bronze? is there an difference in reliability, except cost saving on power consumption when it comes to GOLD vs Bronze vs Silver.

Please explain.

 

 

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Ya, don't trust hw makers, PSU calculators, or any of that garbage.  The only way to really tell how much you're using is one of those P3 things you plug the computer into.  Most systems really only need 450-550ws at most.  Power efficiency =/= reliability.  A 450-550w CX/CXM grey label is more than enough.  Power consumption savings crap doesn't mean a whole lot in the US compared to a lot of countries.  A bronze is perfectly fine.


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CPU: AMD Threadripper 1950x | CPU Cooling: EKWB Liquid Cooling(EK-Supremacy sTR4 RGB - Nickel, EK-CoolStream SE 280, EK-Vardar EVO 140ER Black x 2, EK-XRES 100 SPC-60 MX PWM (incl. pump), EK-ACF Fitting 10/13mm - Red (6-pack), EK-DuraClear 9,5/12,7mm 3M, and Scarlet Red Premix) | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut | Mobo: Asrock X399 Taichi | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GBs (2x16) DDR4-3200 | Storage: Crucial MX500 500GB M.2-2280 SSD/PNY CS900 240GB SSD/Toshiba X300 4TB 7200RPM | GPU: Zotac Geforce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition(Replacing with a Radeon VII | Case: Fractal Define R5 Blackout Edition w/Window | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold | Operating System: Windows 10 Pro | Keyboard: Ducky Shine 7 Blackout Edition with Cherry MX Silent Reds | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS | Headphones:  AKG K7XX Mass Drop Editions(Replacing with k712s) | Mic: Audio-Technica ATR2500 | Speakers: Mackie MR624 Studio Monitors

 

Surtr:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G(Temp/Upping to a Zen 2 Ryzen 7) | CPU Cooling: Wraith(Dark Rock Pro 4 when I get the 3700x or 3800x) | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryronaut | Mobo: Asrock x470 Taichi | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GBs (2x8) DDR4-3200 | Storage: PNY - BX500 240 GB SSD+Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 7200RPM | GPU: PowerColor - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB RED DEVIL | Case: Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold | Optical Drive: Random HP DVD Drive | Operating System: Windows 10 | Keyboard: Corsair K70 with Cherry MX Reds | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS Speakers: JBL LSR 305 Studio Monitors(At some point)

 

Prince of Dark Rock:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 | CPU Cooling: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryronaut | Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawki | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GBs (2x4) DDR4-3200 | Storage: Crucial - BX200 240 GB SSD+Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 7200RPM | GPU: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SSC | Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 | PSU: Corsair - CXM 550W | Optical Drive: Random HP DVD Drive | Operating System: Windows 10 Home | Keyboard: Rosewill - NEON K85 RGB BR | Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Destiny 2 Edition 

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Efficiency is not the issue, what we care about is PSU quality. Anything Tier B or above in the PSU Tier List is probably fine, though I'd air on the side of A and up to be safe. 550w is fine for that rig.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Efficiency is not the issue, what we care about is PSU quality. Anything Tier B or above in the PSU Tier List is probably fine, though I'd air on the side of A and up to be safe. 550w is fine for that rig.

what if i swap the 2700x with 2800x n 2060 with 2080ti or 5700xt( though its not out yet) any guesses? 

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2 minutes ago, dcakewalkgamer said:

what if i swap the 2700x with 2800x n 2060 with 2080ti or 5700xt( though its not out yet) any guesses? 

There is no 2800x, only an 1800x and 3800x, iirc.  Honestly, still 550w cx/cxm grey label is all you need.  While you won't draw that much power I think the 450w version cannot properly power higher end cards.  Not due to wattage reasons, but rail design, iirc.


VashTheStampede 4.0:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 1950x | CPU Cooling: EKWB Liquid Cooling(EK-Supremacy sTR4 RGB - Nickel, EK-CoolStream SE 280, EK-Vardar EVO 140ER Black x 2, EK-XRES 100 SPC-60 MX PWM (incl. pump), EK-ACF Fitting 10/13mm - Red (6-pack), EK-DuraClear 9,5/12,7mm 3M, and Scarlet Red Premix) | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut | Mobo: Asrock X399 Taichi | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GBs (2x16) DDR4-3200 | Storage: Crucial MX500 500GB M.2-2280 SSD/PNY CS900 240GB SSD/Toshiba X300 4TB 7200RPM | GPU: Zotac Geforce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition(Replacing with a Radeon VII | Case: Fractal Define R5 Blackout Edition w/Window | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold | Operating System: Windows 10 Pro | Keyboard: Ducky Shine 7 Blackout Edition with Cherry MX Silent Reds | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS | Headphones:  AKG K7XX Mass Drop Editions(Replacing with k712s) | Mic: Audio-Technica ATR2500 | Speakers: Mackie MR624 Studio Monitors

 

Surtr:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G(Temp/Upping to a Zen 2 Ryzen 7) | CPU Cooling: Wraith(Dark Rock Pro 4 when I get the 3700x or 3800x) | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryronaut | Mobo: Asrock x470 Taichi | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GBs (2x8) DDR4-3200 | Storage: PNY - BX500 240 GB SSD+Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 7200RPM | GPU: PowerColor - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB RED DEVIL | Case: Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold | Optical Drive: Random HP DVD Drive | Operating System: Windows 10 | Keyboard: Corsair K70 with Cherry MX Reds | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS Speakers: JBL LSR 305 Studio Monitors(At some point)

 

Prince of Dark Rock:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 | CPU Cooling: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryronaut | Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawki | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GBs (2x4) DDR4-3200 | Storage: Crucial - BX200 240 GB SSD+Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 7200RPM | GPU: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SSC | Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 | PSU: Corsair - CXM 550W | Optical Drive: Random HP DVD Drive | Operating System: Windows 10 Home | Keyboard: Rosewill - NEON K85 RGB BR | Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Destiny 2 Edition 

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Just now, valdyrgramr said:

There is no 2800x, only an 1800x and 3800x, iirc.  Honestly, still 550w cx/cxm grey label is all you need.  While you won't draw that much power I think the 450w version cannot properly power higher end cards.  Not due to wattage reasons, but rail design, iirc.

my bad typo 3800X

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1 minute ago, dcakewalkgamer said:

my bad typo 3800X

Just get a tier B or higher 550w from the PSU tier list and you'll be fine.  Depending on where you live a CX/CXM grey label or something from be quiet! is really all you need.


VashTheStampede 4.0:

CPU: AMD Threadripper 1950x | CPU Cooling: EKWB Liquid Cooling(EK-Supremacy sTR4 RGB - Nickel, EK-CoolStream SE 280, EK-Vardar EVO 140ER Black x 2, EK-XRES 100 SPC-60 MX PWM (incl. pump), EK-ACF Fitting 10/13mm - Red (6-pack), EK-DuraClear 9,5/12,7mm 3M, and Scarlet Red Premix) | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut | Mobo: Asrock X399 Taichi | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GBs (2x16) DDR4-3200 | Storage: Crucial MX500 500GB M.2-2280 SSD/PNY CS900 240GB SSD/Toshiba X300 4TB 7200RPM | GPU: Zotac Geforce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition(Replacing with a Radeon VII | Case: Fractal Define R5 Blackout Edition w/Window | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold | Operating System: Windows 10 Pro | Keyboard: Ducky Shine 7 Blackout Edition with Cherry MX Silent Reds | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS | Headphones:  AKG K7XX Mass Drop Editions(Replacing with k712s) | Mic: Audio-Technica ATR2500 | Speakers: Mackie MR624 Studio Monitors

 

Surtr:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G(Temp/Upping to a Zen 2 Ryzen 7) | CPU Cooling: Wraith(Dark Rock Pro 4 when I get the 3700x or 3800x) | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryronaut | Mobo: Asrock x470 Taichi | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GBs (2x8) DDR4-3200 | Storage: PNY - BX500 240 GB SSD+Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 7200RPM | GPU: PowerColor - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB RED DEVIL | Case: Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold | Optical Drive: Random HP DVD Drive | Operating System: Windows 10 | Keyboard: Corsair K70 with Cherry MX Reds | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS Speakers: JBL LSR 305 Studio Monitors(At some point)

 

Prince of Dark Rock:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 | CPU Cooling: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 | Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryronaut | Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawki | Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GBs (2x4) DDR4-3200 | Storage: Crucial - BX200 240 GB SSD+Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 7200RPM | GPU: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SSC | Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 | PSU: Corsair - CXM 550W | Optical Drive: Random HP DVD Drive | Operating System: Windows 10 Home | Keyboard: Rosewill - NEON K85 RGB BR | Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Destiny 2 Edition 

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15 minutes ago, dcakewalkgamer said:

what if i swap the 2700x with 2800x n 2060 with 2080ti or 5700xt( though its not out yet) any guesses? 

With a mainstream platform under a gaming load, a decent estimate is GPU TDP + 70W. With a 2080 Ti, though, I will suggest a high end 550W PSU. With the CXM and Pure Power 10/11, expect some coil whine. 

The efficiency rating says nothing about how good the PSU is. To decide on a PSU, look at reviews. If you want recommendations from us, you'll have to tell us where you're buying from, so we know what's available, and at what prices. 

A 90% efficient 650W PSU will output 650W DC (as you can read on the label, if you do 5 seconds of research), and will pull 650W/90%=720W from the wall AC. 


 

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I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

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Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

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Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 6/19/2019 at 10:32 PM, seon123 said:

With a mainstream platform under a gaming load, a decent estimate is GPU TDP + 70W. With a 2080 Ti, though, I will suggest a high end 550W PSU. With the CXM and Pure Power 10/11, expect some coil whine. 

The efficiency rating says nothing about how good the PSU is. To decide on a PSU, look at reviews. If you want recommendations from us, you'll have to tell us where you're buying from, so we know what's available, and at what prices. 

A 90% efficient 650W PSU will output 650W DC (as you can read on the label, if you do 5 seconds of research), and will pull 650W/90%=720W from the wall AC. 

I was dumb to think the other way round, I thought 550W PSU will only produce a output of 550W*0.8=440W DC, rather than doing it the other way. So a 550W 80% would draw a 550W/0.8=690ishW AC to produce 550W DC. 

to be specific I am thinking to buy a Cooler Master MWE GOLD 550W. Saw it in mid-range tier A list as in LTT suggested SMPTS. (here LTT SMPS TIER LIST )

 

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On 6/19/2019 at 12:02 PM, seon123 said:

With a mainstream platform under a gaming load, a decent estimate is GPU TDP + 70W. With a 2080 Ti, though, I will suggest a high end 550W PSU. With the CXM and Pure Power 10/11, expect some coil whine. 

The efficiency rating says nothing about how good the PSU is. To decide on a PSU, look at reviews. If you want recommendations from us, you'll have to tell us where you're buying from, so we know what's available, and at what prices. 

A 90% efficient 650W PSU will output 650W DC (as you can read on the label, if you do 5 seconds of research), and will pull 650W/90%=720W from the wall AC. 

So double-forward and ACRF PSUs are more prone coil whine issues or why did you tell him he has to expect coil whine?

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5 hours ago, KEIN NEIN said:

So double-forward and ACRF PSUs are more prone coil whine issues

That's correct, as far as I know


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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