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Why the GTX 1650 excites me

TheLostViking

Tl;DR: I am excited for the budget and efficiency builds of the future as well as improvements in power usage for all future GPUs given what I believe will come from this card.

 

Going to address the elephant in the room right now; I know there are better bang for your buck cards, I know there are cards that will give me vastly superior performance for a nearly equivalent price point, and I am aware of all the arguments as to why I should not purchase a 1650.

 

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let me explain why this GPU excites me.

 

Firstly, it outputs better performance than the GTX 660 ti at half the power draw. The 660 ti was part of my first "big boy" computer build back in 2012 and I use it as a measuring stick for all modern budget cards since I'm still able to get respectable performance out of that little beast all these years later.

 

Secondly, given the non OC versions lack of PSU connection, it reduces cable clutter in builds that need as much space saving as possible (think Mini-ITX builds using only M.2 chips for hard drives with fully modular PSUs). This makes it a perfect card for people looking to add a bit of performance to prebuilt systems that use proprietary PSUs that they cannot replace. With only 75W of power draw you could drop this bad boy in to practically any system and start playing titles as demanding as Witcher 3 (granted at bare bones settings, but still). Given my love of aesthetics and clean looking builds, having things that lack cables is just peachy.

 

Thirdly, cooling. Less electricity means less heat. Keeping a system running at optimal temperatures is key for PC longevity. The deployment and development of these technologies will aide in the fight against overheating and prolong PC lifespans. Given the lack of cables for the base model, it ever so slightly improves airflow as there are fewer obstacles for cool air to encounter while circulating within the system.

 

 

Finally, I see the 1650 as the opposite evolutionary tree to the RTX and Titan series. While the 1650 might not be blowing people out the water now, given another 2-3 generations of cards with such low power draw we'll probably see far more attractive price points as the technology and development of these power efficient models increases. This kind of power efficiency will make its way in to higher end cards so that even the big boys are no longer requiring 1000+W systems to run anymore.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TheLostViking said:

Finally, I see the 1650 as the opposite evolutionary tree to the RTX and Titan series. While the 1650 might not be blowing people out the water now, given another 2-3 generations of cards with such low power draw we'll probably see far more attractive price points as the technology and development of these power efficient models increases. This kind of power efficiency will make its way in to higher end cards so that even the big boys are no longer requiring 1000+W systems to run anymore.

 

 

The 1650 is the most cut down GPU in the Turing lineup. The statement that its power efficiency is going to somehow stop 1000W systems is complete nonsense. There is always going to be a person that wants the most powerful hardware, and that requires more power. The 1650 is not going to inspire low power draw in future cards, the only reason the 1650 uses so little power is because it is a very efficient architecture and an incredibly cut down chip.

Architecture, Node size, die size are all factors in energy usage.

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7 minutes ago, TheLostViking said:

Tl;DR: I am excited for the budget and efficiency builds of the future as well as improvements in power usage for all future GPUs given what I believe will come from this card.

 Not to mention Zotac just announced a low profile version for SFF computers. :) 

https://www.zotac.com/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-gtx-1650-low-profile

Fine you want the PSU tier list? Have the PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-103/

 

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Nah. People are okay with around 300w for a high end card. Manufacturers will continue designing for around that because they want to remain competitive with each other. I'm all for efficiency and less power usage. It's just that we're using our efficiency gain to increase performance.

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in other words, its not about the 1650 at all. because we allready had the 1050ti............

 

its about GPUs that have yet to come at nodes yet to be developed.

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

in other words, its not about the 1650 at all. because we allready had the 1050ti............

 

its about GPUs that have yet to come at nodes yet to be developed. 

Very well said, my friend.

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i'll get hyped in the future when igpus/apus play 1080p (as well as next gen consoles), power efficiency is a generational thing, there's nothing special about the 1650 imho, but it's cool that ur hyped about it.

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17 hours ago, ThePD said:

The 1650 is the most cut down GPU in the Turing lineup. The statement that its power efficiency is going to somehow stop 1000W systems is complete nonsense. There is always going to be a person that wants the most powerful hardware, and that requires more power. The 1650 is not going to inspire low power draw in future cards, the only reason the 1650 uses so little power is because it is a very efficient architecture and an incredibly cut down chip.

Architecture, Node size, die size are all factors in energy usage.

There will always be people who want those massive power draw cards. However, bringing increased graphical processing with a lower draw will benefit the high-end market by allowing for more efficient power distribution much in the same way that the development of small, fuel efficient cars has allowed for that technology to creep upwards in to the bigger, faster models to allow them to not measure their fuel consumption in single digits

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17 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

in other words, its not about the 1650 at all. because we allready had the 1050ti............

 

its about GPUs that have yet to come at nodes yet to be developed.

I mean, I'm still hyped about the 1650 due to it delivering a notable performance increase over the 1050 ti with the same power draw and I'm dropping one in to a mini ITX build I'm constructing that won't have any wires beyond the mobo connector.

 

While I liked the 1050ti and the future it promised, it didn't quite have the level of performance the 1650 has and its the power to performance that is finally being achieved that excites me on top of the future cards and nodes not yet built.

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