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MSI X570 Prices out in EU

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Posted · Original PosterOP

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Post this in tech news too. I dont understand tho amd got all its fame for being a better value for money option than intel and having cheaper mobos. Why are they trying to change that?

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1 minute ago, ManosMax13 said:

Post this in tech news too. I dont understand tho amd got all its fame for being a better value for money option than intel and having cheaper mobos. Why are they trying to change that?

This has nothing to do with AMD. This is simply because of PCIE Gen 4. X470 will still work perfectly fine with 3rd Gen ryzen but PCIE gen 4 requires better pcb material and more attention so thats why its more expensive.

But i will do


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G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

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Thats like 120€ for each USB port at the back.

For real 5 USB ports, on this board!?!?


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1 minute ago, Koxicain said:

This has nothing to do with AMD. This is simply because of PCIE Gen 4. X470 will still work perfectly fine with 3rd Gen ryzen but PCIE gen 4 requires better pcb material and more attention so thats why its more expensive.

But i will do

Even if you are right. There was a leak some days ago about ryzen prices in romania and they were absurd to say the least. I dont know if Romania has high prices in general but if the prices are real Amd will become more expensive than Intel.

 

Took me long to find it:

 

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3 minutes ago, CiBi said:

Thats like 120€ for each USB port at the back.

For real 5 USB ports, on this board!?!?

Do you need more ? 
Mouse, Keyboard, Webcam, Streamdeck, Phone? 


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MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, ManosMax13 said:

Even if you are right. There was a leak some days ago about ryzen prices in romania and they were absurd to say the least. I dont know if Romania has high prices in general but if the prices are real Amd will become more expensive than Intel.

 

Took me long to find it:

 

Thats in Denmark, from one of the most expensive sites. Denmark is A lot more expensive than most other countries when it comes to electronics. 
Im from Denmark so i know :)


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MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

Do you need more ? 
Mouse, Keyboard, Webcam, Streamdeck, Phone? 

Keyboard has 2 usb ports,webcam,microphone,phone or usb storage,amp for headphones and what if someone wants a vr you need 2 usb ports at least for that...

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2 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

Thats in Denmark, from one of the most expensive sites. Denmark is A lot more expensive than most other countries when it comes to electronics. 
Im from Denmark so i know :)

Oh thanks goodness.

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5 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

Do you need more ? 
Mouse, Keyboard, Webcam, Streamdeck, Phone? 

bahahahahahahha

 

let's go through mine.

 

  1. Mouse
  2. Keyboard
  3. External ssd
  4. External HDD1
  5. External HDD2
  6. External HDD3
  7. Xbox 1 controller/device connection
  8. Razer Orbweaver
  9. Logitech x52
  10. Track IR
  11. Additional keyboard
  12. DSD Trackzilla Button Box

then on a separate charging hub

  1. Headset charger
  2. general usb-c charger
  3. Samsung Galaxy Tab s2
  4. iPad
  5. general micro USB charger
  6. general micro USB charger
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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, ManosMax13 said:

Keyboard has 2 usb ports,webcam,microphone,phone or usb storage,amp for headphones and what if someone wants a vr you need 2 usb ports at least for that...

Most cases has Font USBs aswell. Ppl can always buy a hub tbh :D


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MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

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G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Arika S said:

bahahahahahahha

 

let's go through mine.

 

  1. Mouse
  2. Keyboard
  3. External ssd
  4. External HDD1
  5. External HDD2
  6. External HDD3
  7. Xbox 1 controller/device connection
  8. Razer Orbweaver
  9. Logitech x52
  10. Track IR
  11. Additional keyboard
  12. DSD Trackzilla Button Box

then on a separate charging hub

  1. Headset charger
  2. general usb-c charger
  3. Samsung Galaxy Tab s2
  4. iPad
  5. general micro USB charger
  6. general micro USB charger

What board do you have with that many USB ports? 


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Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz (Upgrading When Ryzen 3rd Gen Is Out)

MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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Just now, Koxicain said:

What board do you have with that many USB ports? 

Many manyyyy  usb hubs... 🤣😂🤣

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Just now, ManosMax13 said:

Many manyyyy  usb hubs... 🤣😂🤣

Yeah :D Well i dont mind 5 USB's on the back. I have 4 on the front aswell. If i need more i would get a hub anyways to have better cable management ;)


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MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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Has there been any indication at all about X570 boards under 200 euros or dollars? I've never spent this much on a top consumer chipset board before. That is top chipset, not top board. This is looking likely to cost more than Intel HEDT boards I've bought...


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Seems like buying a 9900k and an EVGA Z390 Dark (One of the best OC boards) would be way cheaper than a 3700x and a proper board.

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Just now, Arika S said:

board has 6

asrock z270m-itx/ac

one of those ports goes to a 7 port powered hub

 

and the charging hub is an Anker Powerport

 

1 minute ago, Koxicain said:

Yeah :D Well i dont mind 5 USB's on the back. I have 4 on the front aswell. If i need more i would get a hub anyways to have better cable management ;)

Doesnt having a lot of usb ports in a hub running just from a single usb port decrease performance?

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Just now, ManosMax13 said:

Doesnt having a lot of usb ports in a hub running just from a single usb port decrease performance?

There's limited bandwidth to be shared, but many items don't really use a lot anyway.


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Gaming system: Asrock Z370 Pro4, i7-8086k stock, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 2x8GB, Gigabyte RTX 2070, Fractal Edison 550W PSU, Corsair 600C, Optane 900p 280GB, Crucial MX200 1TB, Sandisk 960GB, Acer Predator XB241YU 1440p 144Hz G-sync

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Gaming laptop: Asus FX503VD, i5-7300HQ, 2x8GB DDR4, GTX 1050, Sandisk 256GB SSD

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Just now, ManosMax13 said:

 

Doesnt having a lot of usb ports in a hub running just from a single usb port decrease performance?

depends entirely what is plugged into it. it goes back to a single usb 3.0 so still has 5gbps bandwidth. the hub has

 

2 of the HDDs

keyboard

x52

button box

track IR

mouse

 

the 2 HDDs have the highest bandwidth requirement which is maaaybe 2gbps IF they were both at 100%, which they never are.

 

and everything else has such a minimal requirement that it does not matter

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12 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

 

Doesnt having a lot of usb ports in a hub running just from a single usb port decrease performance?

Yeah but only storage devices use the speed anyways. So if its just for Mouse keyboard etc. you have plenty of speed.


PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz (Upgrading When Ryzen 3rd Gen Is Out)

MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, caspar! said:

Seems like buying a 9900k and an EVGA Z390 Dark (One of the best OC boards) would be way cheaper than a 3700x and a proper board.

If you only want 3700x buy a X470 instead. X570 isnt really needed till past 3900x and if you want PCIE gen 4. 


PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz (Upgrading When Ryzen 3rd Gen Is Out)

MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, porina said:

Has there been any indication at all about X570 boards under 200 euros or dollars? I've never spent this much on a top consumer chipset board before. That is top chipset, not top board. This is looking likely to cost more than Intel HEDT boards I've bought...

I believe once Intel HEDT boards get PCIE Gen 4 they will be even more expensive :D


PC Specs

Ryzen 7 - 2700x - 4.2 Ghz (Upgrading When Ryzen 3rd Gen Is Out)

MSI B350 PC MATE (Upgrading to x570)

Thermaltake Water 3.0 360mm ARGB Sync TT Premium

G.Skillz Trident Z 3200mhz CL16

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Aorus Xtreme

Samsung Evo 970 - 256 GB

OCZ Agility - 256 GB

Western Digital - 1 TB

Corsair RM750x - 750W Gold

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

If you only want 3700x buy a X470 instead. X570 isnt really needed till past 3900x and if you want PCIE gen 4. 

The top level boards are meant for LN overclocking. Besides, everyone knows if you really want to OC you go ITX.

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1 minute ago, Koxicain said:

I believe once Intel HEDT boards get PCIE Gen 4 they will be even more expensive :D

Mobo pricing is going up everywhere, Gen 4 or not. I'm really hoping Intel go beyond 4 channel ram on next HEDT platform, but that's another story. I think Z170 was about the last "cheap" top consumer chipset mobo generation, less than say 150 euro equivalent. My 1st Ryzen board (X370) was above that, and entry level z_70 boards are in the 150+ ball park. I kinda skipped on X470 for that reason. Now Anandtech had described "mid range" X570 boards as around $250... I know manufacturers want to showcase their best, but what about low end X570? If there are no lower models, the mid range is the new low end.

 

Basically I don't want a nerfed chipset for any new generation system I build. So when Ryzen 2000 came out, 300 chipset was not an option as it missed the extra turbo clock thing, but 450 and 470 were not that different otherwise (for single GPU use). Outside of competitive benching, I run stock as I do need 24/7 stability. Do we have a definitive feature list for 570 vs 470 and Zen 2? Apart from PCIe 4.0, are there any features that will be missing if not using 570? And so far no mention of 550 chipset? For 300 series the 50/70 came out at same time. I think it did for 400 too, but not this time?


Main rig: Asus Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700k stock, Noctua D14, G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 2x8GB, Gigabyte GTX 1650, Corsair HX750i, In Win 303 NVIDIA, Samsung SM951 512GB, WD Blue 1TB, HP LP2475W 1200p wide gamut

Gaming system: Asrock Z370 Pro4, i7-8086k stock, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 2x8GB, Gigabyte RTX 2070, Fractal Edison 550W PSU, Corsair 600C, Optane 900p 280GB, Crucial MX200 1TB, Sandisk 960GB, Acer Predator XB241YU 1440p 144Hz G-sync

Ryzen rig: Asrock B450 ITX, R5 3600, Noctua D9L, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 2x4GB, EVGA GTX 970, Corsair CX450M, NZXT Manta, Crucial MX300 525GB, Acer RT280K

VR rig: Asus Z170I Pro Gaming, i7-6600k stock, Silverstone TD03-E, Kingston Hyper-X 2666 2x8GB, Zotac 1070 FE, Corsair CX450M, Silverstone SG13, Samsung PM951 256GB, HTC Vive

Gaming laptop: Asus FX503VD, i5-7300HQ, 2x8GB DDR4, GTX 1050, Sandisk 256GB SSD

Total CPU heating: i7-7800X, i7-5930k, i7-5820k, 2x i7-6700k, i7-6700T, i5-6600k, i7-5775C, i5-5675C, i5-4570S, i3-8350k, i3-6100, i3-4360, i3-4150T, E5-2683v3, 2x E5-2650, E5-2667, R7 3700X, R5 3600

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