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Should I upgrade 2200g to 1600 now?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello, as we know a bit more about Zen 2 architecture I want to upgrade my actual 2200G to 1600. Basically, my motherboard is A320 which won’t support zen2 architecture so I think I’m better off buying r5 1600 for $110. But is it worth it? The graphics card to be paired is GTX1070.

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First things first, there's a bit of a bottleneck with any of those. And really the upgrade won't help you much as they are not very far apart in terms of single core performance, so really unless you need the extra cores, buying a b450 mobo that will allow overclocking might be your best bet at better performance. Even with the stock cooler, I can get full turbo on all cores for my 2400g holding well with good temps.


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for gaming? nah upgrade the board first.


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CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I’m not really in rush of changing it, is it right time to buy B450? Basically I can get one for $60 either ASUS PRIME B450M-A, Gigabyte B450M S2H or Gigabyte B450M-HDV R4.0

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

for gaming? nah upgrade the board first.

Well, very light gaming plus some very light video editing 

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6 minutes ago, uberas said:

I’m not really in rush of changing it, is it right time to buy B450? Basically I can get one for $60 either ASUS PRIME B450M-A, Gigabyte B450M S2H or Gigabyte B450M-HDV R4.0

Spend a bit more for the Asrock B450M-Pro4, those boards you listed are closer to office PC boards  than a gaming one.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, BigRom said:

Spend a bit more for the Asrock B450M-Pro4, those boards you listed are closer to office PC boards  than a gaming one.

Actually I can spend a bit more, is there any decent B450 with built in WiFi and a good price out there?

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1 minute ago, uberas said:

Actually I can spend a bit more, is there any decent B450 with built in WiFi and a good price out there?

Get a PCIe x1 wireless card, you can reuse that the next time you change motherboards

 

Cheapest I can find (US prices) is the Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro that is almost double the price of a Asrock Pro4


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1 hour ago, uberas said:

How about X370 then?

ASRock X370 Killer SLI has wireless, but is also more expensive that its B450M sibling (Killer SLI is $90ish?). Not mention its a first gen Ryzen chipset, so higher memory speed support isn't that great.

 

There is also the ASRock Taichi, which is a great motherboard but very very expensive at over $150

 

If don't mind really tiny motherboards, there is the ASRock X370 Gaming ITX. Wireless is integrated as is usual with most ITX boards, but that compactness comes with a $115 price tag.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, BigRom said:

ASRock X370 Killer SLI has wireless, but is also more expensive that its B450M sibling (Killer SLI is $90ish?). Not mention its a first gen Ryzen chipset, so higher memory speed support isn't that great.

 

There is also the ASRock Taichi, which is a great motherboard but very very expensive at over $150

 

If don't mind really tiny motherboards, there is the ASRock X370 Gaming ITX. Wireless is integrated as is usual with most ITX boards, but that compactness comes with a $115 price tag.

I mean, forget about WiFi it’s pointless. I’m talking should I choose X370 over B450? The size doesn’t bother me, I’ve got full tower case.

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6 minutes ago, uberas said:

I mean, forget about WiFi it’s pointless. I’m talking should I choose X370 over B450? The size doesn’t bother me, I’ve got full tower case.

X370 usually has better power delivery/VRM etc as it meant for higher grade OC than the regular B-series boards. Would be a good choice if the X470 is too expensive for your liking.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 6/13/2019 at 9:50 AM, BigRom said:

X370 usually has better power delivery/VRM etc as it meant for higher grade OC than the regular B-series boards. Would be a good choice if the X470 is too expensive for your liking.

I was looking around and i found Gigabyte B450M DS3H for 60 U.S dollars - maybe it's not the best but got BIOS update for Zen2 already

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