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4790k to 9900k

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Im kicking around the idea of upgrading my 4790k. Ill need a whole new motherboard, ram and cpu cooler as well. Ill probably replace my 5 year old power supply too. So basically a near total build. 

 

If im gonna do all that i figured id splurge on the best gaming cpu i can get, otherwise its not worth an upgrade. People throw down 750 to $1500 on a gpu these days so spending a hundred more for a better cpu seems like a drop in the bucket by comparison, and cpus are generally more future proof than gpus. I was gonna wait for ryzen 3000 but the price difference wouldnt be that great for a 3800x and performance of the ryzen would probably be a little less in games. 

 

Any reason not to get a 9900k? Should i even upgrade? Im about 50/50 on the idea at the moment. Would i see a difference in say battlefield 1 and 5 at 1440p? 

 

If i just upgraded my 1070ti instead i feel like my cpu would bottleneck in cpu intensive games. I can always lower graphics details to compensate for my gpu, but an aging cpu doesnt have any easy settings solution in multiplayer. 


My System:

Corsair Obsidian 450D, I7 4790K, Corsair H60, Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 2, 16 gb Gskill ripjaws X @ 1866 mhz, Asus Strix 1070 TI, Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB & 120GB SSD, Corsair CX 750M, PG278Q ROG Swift.

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July 7 is 4 weeks away. That's your reason.


Emma : i7 8700K @5.0Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200Mhz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB M.2 (RAID 0) - EVGA Supernova 650 P2 - Fractal Design Define R6 - AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz - Mackie CR5BT - Logitech G910, G502, G933 - Cooler Master Universal Graphics Card Holder

 

Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 (stock) - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2400Mhz - GeForce 8800GTS 640MB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Dell 19" 4:3

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The 4790k is quite weak, no reason to keep it. 

 

Could jump on the and train and hope it pans out with a nice card. Won’t be leaving intel anytime soon with my stuff. Though I kinda wish I got the 9700k or higher compared to this 8700k. 


Main RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 8700k, ASUS ROG Strix Z370-H, G.Skill TridentZ 16GB, EVGA 1080 SC, EVGA 850 GQ, Acer KG251Q 1920x1080@240hz 

 

Spare RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 4770K, Asus Maximus VI Extreme, G.Skill Ares 32Gb, EVGA 1080 SC, Corsair CX850M, Acer xG270HU 2560x1440@144hz

 

 

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Questions:

1) Are you dissatisfied with your current gaming performance (too much stutter, want higher graphics fidelity, want a higher frame rate)?

2) What is the refresh rate and resolution of your current monitor?

 

 

My thoughts regardless of your response:

 

High end Ryzen 3000 may actually be faster than the 9900k in generic gaming. We don't know either way right now. The Zen 2 CPUs release in less than 4 weeks. Lots of reviews will be released on launch day and more thorough independent reviews will likely release 3-7 days after launch.

 

Even if top tier Ryzen 3000 CPUs aren't faster than the 9900k Intel will still be forced to lower prices significantly due to increased competition (probably ~$50-100 off current 9900k prices).

 

You mentioned future proofing. More cores = more better since game engines will continue to utilize more cores as time passes. Ryzen 3000 will have up to 50% more cores compared to the 9900k at launch on July 7th (100% more cores whenever the 3950X launches in August/September/whenever).

 

I've already started speculating. More speculation won't help at this point. It would be a bad idea not to wait since the Zen 2 launch is so close and you already have a decent gaming rig. If you do a lot work on your computer and you make A LOT of money that way that may change this conclusion.


CPU: i7 4790k @ 4.7 GHz

GPU: XFX GTS RX580 4GB

Cooling: Corsair h100i

Mobo: Asus z97-A 

RAM: 4x8 GB 1600 MHz Corsair Vengence

PSU: Corsair HX850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite Tempered glass edition

Display: LG 29UM68-P

Keyboard: Roccat Ryos MK FX RGB

Mouse: Logitech g900 Chaos Spectrum

Headphones: Sennheiser HD6XX

OS: Windows 10 Home

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30 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

The 4790k is quite weak, no reason to keep it. 

 

Could jump on the and train and hope it pans out with a nice card. Won’t be leaving intel anytime soon with my stuff. Though I kinda wish I got the 9700k or higher compared to this 8700k. 

By no stretch of the imagination is the 4790k a weak cpu lol

why would u want want a 9700k it’s the same performance.

litterly everything u have said is wrong 

 

“compared to this 8700k “ like it’s a shit cpu compared to a 9700k ? 

 

What is going through ur head 

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37 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

The 4790k is quite weak, no reason to keep it. 

 

Could jump on the and train and hope it pans out with a nice card. Won’t be leaving intel anytime soon with my stuff. Though I kinda wish I got the 9700k or higher compared to this 8700k. 

It's definitely not weak. It falls into the mid-range category now.

4 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

 

why would u want want a 9700k it’s the same performance

 

A 9700k is better than a 4790k and 8700k, so I don't know what you're talking about.

 

@maizenblue If you're going to upgrade, wait for Zen 2. It's a much better offer.


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10 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It's definitely not weak. It falls into the mid-range category now.

A 9700k is better than a 4790k and 8700k, so I don't know what you're talking about.

 

@maizenblue If you're going to upgrade, wait for Zen 2. It's a much better offer.

Not it’s not there neck and neck in gaming when both at 5ghz

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18 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It's definitely not weak. It falls into the mid-range category now.

Mid range is weak. How about moderately weak. Sub performance. Half ass, subpar. What ever term you want. 


Main RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 8700k, ASUS ROG Strix Z370-H, G.Skill TridentZ 16GB, EVGA 1080 SC, EVGA 850 GQ, Acer KG251Q 1920x1080@240hz 

 

Spare RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 4770K, Asus Maximus VI Extreme, G.Skill Ares 32Gb, EVGA 1080 SC, Corsair CX850M, Acer xG270HU 2560x1440@144hz

 

 

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1 minute ago, Mick Naughty said:

Mid range is weak. How about moderately weak. Sub performance. Half ass, subpar. What ever term you want. 

It's roughly tied for the 2nd best gaming CPU slot with the 9700K.  The 9900K beats it but nothing AMD has does "yet".

 

Can't see it slipping out out of the top 5 even after July 7.


Emma : i7 8700K @5.0Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200Mhz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB M.2 (RAID 0) - EVGA Supernova 650 P2 - Fractal Design Define R6 - AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz - Mackie CR5BT - Logitech G910, G502, G933 - Cooler Master Universal Graphics Card Holder

 

Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 (stock) - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2400Mhz - GeForce 8800GTS 640MB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Dell 19" 4:3

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7 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

It's roughly tied for the 2nd best gaming CPU slot with the 9700K.  The 9900K beats it but nothing AMD has does "yet".

 

Can't see it slipping out out of the top 5 even after July 7.

Says a lot about cpus then. In what perfect world scenario would it place second in anything?


Main RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 8700k, ASUS ROG Strix Z370-H, G.Skill TridentZ 16GB, EVGA 1080 SC, EVGA 850 GQ, Acer KG251Q 1920x1080@240hz 

 

Spare RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 4770K, Asus Maximus VI Extreme, G.Skill Ares 32Gb, EVGA 1080 SC, Corsair CX850M, Acer xG270HU 2560x1440@144hz

 

 

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