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who would need 3950x over 3900x? realistically

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1 minute ago, Windows95 said:

what's the point? 3900x is already a killer

because they can...


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By that logic what is the point in the 3900x over the 3800x? 

Likely they will overclock to the same frequency. And with the new consols being 8 core, very likely games for the next 6+ years will be coded for 8 cores. 
So what is the point buying a 3900x, 3800x is already a killer? 

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its because they can. it also makes the hill intel needs to climb a lot taller. 

 

 

its mostly for streamers, people who want the best and hobby workstations. 

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1 minute ago, IDKFA said:

By that logic what is the point in the 3900x over the 3800x? 

Likely they will overclock to the same frequency. And with the new consols being 8 core, very likely games for the next 6+ years will be coded for 8 cores. 
So what is the point buying a 3900x, 3800x is already a killer? 

Because they can...


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4 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

what's the point? 3900x is already a killer

Someone who would have otherwise needed to get a more expensive threadripper or an even more expensive i9.

2 minutes ago, IDKFA said:

By that logic what is the point in the 3900x over the 3800x? 

Likely they will overclock to the same frequency. And with the new consols being 8 core, very likely games for the next 6+ years will be coded for 8 cores. 
So what is the point buying a 3900x, 3800x is already a killer? 

Current consoles also have 8 cores


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6 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

what's the point? 3900x is already a killer

not everything you do on a computer is gaming you know

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4 minutes ago, Sauron said:

 

Current consoles also have 8 cores

yes. that's not really relevant to my point. I'm looking forwards to the future. I don't see game devs coding for more than 8 cores because of future console specs. 
Ergo I would think there is no point getting the 3900x or 3950x for a "gamer". 

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1 minute ago, IDKFA said:

yes. that's not really relevant to my point. I'm looking forwards to the future. I don't see game devs coding for more than 8 cores because of future console specs. 
Ergo I would think there is no point getting the 3900x or 3950x for a "gamer". 

Probably - but you do realize games aren't the only possible use for a computer, right...?


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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I understand your perspective. This was the EXACT same for Threadripper 2000. Why buy the 2970WX when you can buy the 2990WX? I think the whole 3950X being released 2 months later is to mitigate the situation. This forces people itching to upgrade having to buy the 12 core if they don't want to wait another 2 months. If it was the other way around, 3950x in July then 3900X in September then there would be no point to the 12 core. Except for people specifically following a price-point and specifically looking for a 12 core.

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14 minutes ago, IDKFA said:

By that logic what is the point in the 3900x over the 3800x? 

Likely they will overclock to the same frequency. And with the new consols being 8 core, very likely games for the next 6+ years will be coded for 8 cores. 
So what is the point buying a 3900x, 3800x is already a killer? 

4 more cores for 100 bucks

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11 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

not everything you do on a computer is gaming you know

i do music video editing and animation and i dont see why i should spend 800€ on the cpu

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1 minute ago, Windows95 said:

4 more cores for 100 bucks

so you've just answered your own question??!?

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, IDKFA said:

so you've just answered your own question??!?

no

 

i would buy 3950x if it was 599$

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Just now, Windows95 said:

i do music video editing and animation and i dont see why i should spend 800€ on the cpu

Then you know exactly in what ways a 16 core would benefit you, maybe you don't need that CPU, doesn't mean no one will

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Lol. Im so lost. 

You asked. why get a 16 core when a 12 core exists
I said. by that logic why get a 12 core when an 8 core exists. 

You said.... "Because it has 4 more cores". LOL

You see what you did there? 

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4 minutes ago, IDKFA said:

Lol. Im so lost. 

You asked. why get a 16 core when a 12 core exists
I said. by that logic why get a 12 core when an 8 core exists. 

You said.... "Because it has 4 more cores". LOL

You see what you did there? 

because its only 100 more bucks for 4 more cores, its a steal

 

300 more bucks for another 4 cores, not so much

 

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9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

then there is the 1950x for you i guess......

low clocks

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14 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

i do music video editing and animation and i dont see why i should spend 800€ on the cpu

Then don't.


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1 minute ago, Windows95 said:

low clocks

4ghz isnt half bad. 

 

and if you dont need 16 cores, why not buy something else

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

4ghz isnt half bad. 

 

and if you dont need 16 cores, why not buy something else

3900x is a sweet spot between clock speed core count and price

 

cant beat it

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3 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

3900x is a sweet spot between clock speed core count and price

 

cant beat it

then get that.........

 

 

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

then get that.........

 

then get that.......

i will

 

i will

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