Should I upgrade the CPU or the GPU

[spcy]

Hey guys,

I'm planning to build a new pc with the following specs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X or AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX Vega 64 or Sapphiere Nitro+ AMD RX Vega 56

MOBO: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK AMD B450 So.AM4 Dual Channel DDR ATX Retail                

RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX black DDR4-3200 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit     

CPU-Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock PRO 4                                          
SSD: 500GB Crucial MX500 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC (CT500MX500SSD1)        

Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 Mesh
PSU: 750 Watt Corsair TX-M Series TX750M Modular 80+ Gold

 

As you can see, I'm not sure yet, if I should choose the better CPU or the better GPU, I can't choose both! I have about 100 Euros left, so that's why I can only buy one higher end item. So far, I think I will buy the better CPU, since I saw a higher fps gain in games (on youtube) with the CPUs when compared with the GPUs. I mainly use my pc for gaming, but I also use programms like photoshop quite often, but I don't care if I could save 10 seconds for exporting an image with buying a more expensive CPU. When it comes to games, I play on 1080p so it may sound overkill but it isn't - any game which is moddable, for example Skyrim, Fallout 4 or GTA 5 - I mod them to the maximum - Hundreds of 4K Textures, scriptheavy mods, massive ENBs and so on (and from experience a standard 1080p gaming setup isn't enough for that. I'm also planning to buy a 144Hz Monitor in the future,so a bit more performance is crucial).So far, my plan is to wait for a month, for the release of Ryzen Gen 3, hoping that the R5 or R7 CPU (or mabye GPU) prices will drop, that I can save some money. Are there any speculations about how much the prices will drop, when they will, does anyone has some experience with this? Buying one of the new Gen 3 CPU will be too expensive at launch am I right? And what about the new GPUs, they use GDDR6 instead of HBM2, so they should be a bit cheaper then the Vega line (that's what I heard), but still more expensive because they are the newest and a bit better, right? I don't really know what do to right now, any help is appreciated!

 

Also, will the airflow be okay? The case has 2x 200mm fans in the front and 1x 120mm at the rear and I will use the be quiet! Dark Rock PRO 4 tower cooler. Is it nessecary to buy more fans as an exhaust or is it enough?

[Stormseeker9]

@spcyZen 2 (3rd gen) is being released on 7/7 + the new Navi cards. 

 

I would definitely hold hold out till then and wait. 

[Thomas_nerd]

definitely the first option for both of them

[Dedayog]

Lose the cooler and buy both, grab the cooler later if you feel you need it.  

 

Or wait 4 weeks. 

[Fasauceome]

Ryzen 5 3600 drops at $200, so make room in the budget for that bad boy.

[Stefan Payne]

41 minutes ago, spcy said:

Hey guys,

I'm planning to build a new pc with the following specs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X or AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX Vega 64 or Sapphiere Nitro+ AMD RX Vega 56

MOBO: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK AMD B450 So.AM4 Dual Channel DDR ATX Retail                

RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX black DDR4-3200 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit     

CPU-Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock PRO 4                                          
SSD: 500GB Crucial MX500 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC (CT500MX500SSD1)        

Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 Mesh
PSU: 750 Watt Corsair TX-M Series TX750M Modular 80+ Gold

Do you have the option to wait another 3 Weeks or so?

Though it looks like only Blower Cards might be available at Launch...

So that leaves the CPU to be replaced by a Ryzen 3000 model...

Remember: you either need an X570 Board or flash the BIOS of the B450 Board for them to run...

41 minutes ago, spcy said:

And what about the new GPUs, they use GDDR6 instead of HBM2, so they should be a bit cheaper then the Vega line (that's what I heard), but still more expensive because they are the newest and a bit better, right? I don't really know what do to right now, any help is appreciated!

That isn't important, the important factor is what comes out of the chips and that looks pretty impressive. If you don't care about noise too much, grab one of those.

If you do, the Sapphire Nitro+ is the right one for you...

[spcy]

14 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Lose the cooler and buy both, grab the cooler later if you feel you need it.  

 

Or wait 4 weeks. 

When I would buy the 2600X, I would buy it together with the Cooler. But when I would choose the 2700X I would use the Wraith Prism cooler that comes with it for a few month till I have money for the beQuiet DR pro 4. But seeing that the new Ryzen 3600 is slightly better then the 2700X and is even way cheaper, I'll definetley wait for the third gen.

[spcy]

11 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Ryzen 5 3600 drops at $200, so make room in the budget for that bad boy.

That's amazing, I also saw it on GPUbenchmark!

[spcy]

15 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Do you have the option to wait another 3 Weeks or so?

Though it looks like only Blower Cards might be available at Launch...

So that leaves the CPU to be replaced by a Ryzen 3000 model...

Remember: you either need an X570 Board or flash the BIOS of the B450 Board for them to run...

That isn't important, the important factor is what comes out of the chips and that looks pretty impressive. If you don't care about noise too much, grab one of those.

If you do, the Sapphire Nitro+ is the right one for you...

Of course I can wait 3 weeks, I could even wait a few months. I just saw some stats on the Ryzen 3600 on GPUbenchmark and it's amazing for this prize, so I will definetely wait for Gen 3. Any experience of how long it will take for the mainboard producers releasing a bios update?

[Stefan Payne]

6 minutes ago, spcy said:

Any experience of how long it will take for the mainboard producers releasing a bios update?

They are already there, mostly...

Just look at the BIOS Section of the Board.

 

Problem: You need a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series CPU (or Athlon 2x0GE) to flash the BIOS.

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Of course I can wait 3 weeks, I could even wait a few months.

NAVI is a better option for gaming it seems as well.

Only in productive loads I'd assume it gets eaten for breakfast by a VEGA Card.

However it seems that AMD only ships reference cards in the Beginning...

So if noise is important, the Sapphire might still be a good option...

[spcy]

5 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

They are already there, mostly...

Just look at the BIOS Section of the Board.

 

Problem: You need a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series CPU (or Athlon 2x0GE) to flash the BIOS.

Oh right, I forgot that MSI already released a BIOS update for Gen3. I'm sure some of my roommates has one of the older gen Ryzen CPUs, if not I can still change the mainboard.