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Could Huawei & honor users start a lawsuit against the US govt or Donald Trump?

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48 minutes ago, straight_stewie said:

is enough evidence to suggest that we probably don't want their products to be the backbone of our telecom systems.

so why ban the entirety of their consumer manufacturing as well? the infrastructure stuff i kind almost understand but not their consumer products


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2 hours ago, straight_stewie said:

There is actually a metric wack ton of evidence supporting that.

Even just the fact that the CEOs parents were spies and that Ren Zhengfei actually worked for the Chinese version of the NSA before starting Huawei is enough evidence to suggest that we probably don't want their products to be the backbone of our telecom systems.

I agree there is lot of relationship evidence, but that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact, which allows for more than one explanation. And if you use ACH relationship evidence leaves to many hypotheses open. There simply is not enough diagnostic evidence, either from direct or forensic to say point blank that Hauwei is complacent/active in nation state spying. 

 

Many American companies also have strong ties to the NSA /CIA the MDDS & NSF started companies like Qualcomm and Symantec, and now there is In-Q-Tel (IQT) the "not-for-profit" venture capital group that the NSA and others 3 letter groups use to fund startups to develop core technology for the U.S. intelligence community. Such as Atlas Wearables (fitness tracker) sold in sporting goods stores and on Amazon. MindMeld is another that owes its creation to the NSA/CIA, MindMeld is the mind behind the tech that allows more than 1,200 companies to have voice recognition technology two of the biggest names are Google and Samsung. Talk to Alexa lately :)

 

The point I make is that should not let any companies tech be allowed untested and unvetted to be in the backbone of your system. Many concerns could be addressed with a strong testing and vetting process.


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21 minutes ago, Arika S said:

so why ban the entirety of their consumer manufacturing as well? the infrastructure stuff i kind almost understand but not their consumer products

From a "national security" standpoint consumer gear could have been left out, but this also being used as a "weapon" in the trade disagreements. I can not speak to as the long game here, but if you look at Australia who where the 1st ones to place a ban on Huawei infrastructure gear, (last August) it took a while for other nations to follow suite but now that they are it puts more and more pressure on China from a trade side, this pressure could be used to push China into a more equitable trade agreement with different parties not just in the US or Australia but globally. 

 

Trade by nations is very messed up, The US is looking to impose countervailing tariffs not just on China, but on any trade partner that "cheats" on its trade deals using currency manipulation and illegal export subsidies (this the EU). As such bans add pressures to force the hand of the other players to agree to changes or in this case to follow the rules. The US has the 2nd lowest tariff rates in the world at 1.6% Canada is the lowest at 0.8% but the US ends up paying much higher rates at the end of the day when dealing with partners as they knew they could cheat the system and for years the US looked the other way. The US is no longer looking the way and is starting to play hardball. Banning China access to US Tech affects China on a globalized scale and one that they might not be able to weather.


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7 hours ago, straight_stewie said:

There is actually a metric wack ton of evidence supporting that.

Even just the fact that the CEOs parents were spies and that Ren Zhengfei actually worked for the Chinese version of the NSA before starting Huawei is enough evidence to suggest that we probably don't want their products to be the backbone of our telecom systems.

Its probably just about the trade war... V-V


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You cannot sue Federal or State governments unless they allow you or you can convince a Federal judge.  And I see the reasoning and agree with it. If you do not think the Chinese government de-facto controls the company's there you are very naive. I love how when people do not like something the first thing they want to do is sue.  It's one of the many reasons medical care is so high. But that is another subject.  SMDH


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5 hours ago, Dieork said:

From a "national security" standpoint consumer gear could have been left out, but this also being used as a "weapon" in the trade disagreements. I can not speak to as the long game here, but if you look at Australia who where the 1st ones to place a ban on Huawei infrastructure gear, (last August) it took a while for other nations to follow suite but now that they are it puts more and more pressure on China from a trade side, this pressure could be used to push China into a more equitable trade agreement with different parties not just in the US or Australia but globally. 

 

Trade by nations is very messed up, The US is looking to impose countervailing tariffs not just on China, but on any trade partner that "cheats" on its trade deals using currency manipulation and illegal export subsidies (this the EU). As such bans add pressures to force the hand of the other players to agree to changes or in this case to follow the rules. The US has the 2nd lowest tariff rates in the world at 1.6% Canada is the lowest at 0.8% but the US ends up paying much higher rates at the end of the day when dealing with partners as they knew they could cheat the system and for years the US looked the other way. The US is no longer looking the way and is starting to play hardball. Banning China access to US Tech affects China on a globalized scale and one that they might not be able to weather.

We are trying to bring jobs back to the US. As it is now we are a consumer nation, not a nation that can stand on its own two feet.  And if you do not think other countries do not do the same thing you should look into it.  Take lumber a lot of the wood we cut here is exported to China at pennies on the dollar compared to what you have to pay here. Steel is another one. Ask any metal worker what they think of imported Chinese steel. Blacksmiths and Ferries will not use it, any anvil made there they call an ALD anvil-like device. I have seen both anvils and vices made there break.  Sometimes explosively, I have a scar under my left eye from an anivlI I was using basically shattered, violently. Got one now over 150 years old and still rocking. ( if I could still use it lol)  Americans what cheap goods and to me really do not seem to care for the quality.


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1 hour ago, Ravenbear said:

I love how when people do not like something the first thing they want to do is sue.

How funny, I love how when the US do not like something the first thing to do is destroy it, second is invade it, third is try to ban it.

1 hour ago, Ravenbear said:

We are trying to bring jobs back to the US. As it is now we are a consumer nation, not a nation that can stand on its own two feet.  And if you do not think other countries do not do the same thing you should look into it.  Take lumber a lot of the wood we cut here is exported to China at pennies on the dollar compared to what you have to pay here. Steel is another one. Ask any metal worker what they think of imported Chinese steel. Blacksmiths and Ferries will not use it, any anvil made there they call an ALD anvil-like device. I have seen both anvils and vices made there break.  Sometimes explosively, I have a scar under my left eye from an anivlI I was using basically shattered, violently. Got one now over 150 years old and still rocking. ( if I could still use it lol)  Americans what cheap goods and to me really do not seem to care for the quality.

Your speech is very moving, too bad it's full of mistakes. You are trying to "bring jobs here" but then you still support companies that go for the cheapest people and if it's not possible, they just move the production out. Stop being so hypocrite, why do you blame Huawei and other companies/countries of "stealing jobs", when those are your US companies? What phone do you own? Where was it made? Well you have the answer in your hands now. It's not Huawei, it's not China, it's Apple or Google (or whatever US brand your phone is) you should blame.

Are you scared of not getting enough jobs? Then buy local. That's all you can do.

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1 hour ago, Ravenbear said:

You cannot sue Federal or State governments unless they allow you or you can convince a Federal judge.  And I see the reasoning and agree with it. If you do not think the Chinese government de-facto controls the company's there you are very naive. I love how when people do not like something the first thing they want to do is sue.  It's one of the many reasons medical care is so high. But that is another subject.  SMDH

I agree suing people for saving your life is shitty and should be illegal, for someone damaging or reducing the value of the property should be fair game even if it is the govt or the president. Yes even suing D.Trump alone would satisfying if I was a affected consumer of this mockery! O3O


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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LBjbw6

Vishera-X8-8370 (old config 2)
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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-44 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Kylin 14.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZW4Jtg

Kaveri-X4-860K (old config 1)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD FX-8370 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-2133MHz CL9-11-11-31-42 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Kylin 14.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
MSM8926 - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
MSM8974AA - Blackberry Passport
MT2601 - TicWatch E
MT6580 - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
MT6592M - my|phone my32 (orange)
MT6592M - my|phone my32 (yellow)
MT6735 - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
MT6737 - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
MT6739 - my|phone myX8 (blue)
MT6739 - my|phone myX8 (gold)
MT6750 - Huawei honor 6C Pro / V9 Play
MT6765 - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
MT6797D - my|phone Brown Tab 1
SDM710 - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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14 hours ago, Dieork said:

There simply is not enough diagnostic evidence, either from direct or forensic to say point blank that Hauwei is complacent/active in nation state spying.  

That is correct. But it's very hard to investigate a big player in a non allied foreign nation state, so we don't have the opportunity to find out for sure. At least not publicly anyway...

This is a subject where I am very willing to play it safe, rather than to be sorry. We are already watched by one cyber espionage alliance. Let's not risk making it two.


I will never succumb to the New Cult and I reject the leadership of @Aelar_Nailo and his wicked parrot armies led by @FakeCIA and @DildorTheDecent. I will keep my eyes pure and remain dedicated to the path of the One True; IlLinusNati

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5 hours ago, straight_stewie said:

That is correct. But it's very hard to investigate a big player in a non allied foreign nation state, so we don't have the opportunity to find out for sure. At least not publicly anyway...

This is a subject where I am very willing to play it safe, rather than to be sorry. We are already watched by one cyber espionage alliance. Let's not risk making it two.

At best there is negligence of security and to be fair so have their competitors done, by that logic we should execute the CEOs of Cisco for the amount of screw ups and security holes they have had... x-x


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Lake-V-X6-10K6 (gaming + workstation PC)

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600 (Base: @3.3GHz | Turbo: @4.8GHz) Hexa-Core (Intel 14nm++++) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM: G.Skill Sniper X DDR4-2666MHz CL16-18-18-38-1T (2x8GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter

Zen-II-X6-3600 (gaming PC)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (Base: @3.6GHz | Turbo: @4.2GHz) Hexa-Core (T.S.M.C. 7nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4, Socket-AM4 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM: HyperX Fury DDR4-3060MHz CL16-18-18-39-1T (2x8GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi & Bluetooth: ASUS PCE-AC55BT Wireless Adapter

Vishera-X8-9370 (old config 4)

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZW4Jtg 

Godavari-X4-880 (old config 3)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LBjbw6

Vishera-X8-8370 (old config 2)
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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-44 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Kylin 14.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter / https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZW4Jtg

Kaveri-X4-860K (old config 1)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD FX-8370 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-2133MHz CL9-11-11-31-42 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Kylin 14.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
MSM8926 - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
MSM8974AA - Blackberry Passport
MT2601 - TicWatch E
MT6580 - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
MT6592M - my|phone my32 (orange)
MT6592M - my|phone my32 (yellow)
MT6735 - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
MT6737 - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
MT6739 - my|phone myX8 (blue)
MT6739 - my|phone myX8 (gold)
MT6750 - Huawei honor 6C Pro / V9 Play
MT6765 - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
MT6797D - my|phone Brown Tab 1
SDM710 - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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5 hours ago, straight_stewie said:

This is a subject where I am very willing to play it safe

I agree and it can be played very safely through an independent or gov testing and  vetting process for most things. 

 

The bigger issue is that banning a vendor leads to, the remaining vendors become all controlling and they start setting price and service points as open competition is removed. And sure you might be left with only "American" vendors such as Juniper Networks, great now your buy "American" or are you?  American manufacturing is outsourced to three manufacturing companies: Celestica (Canada), Flextronics (Chinese Taipe) and Accton Technology (Chinese Taipe) So then its CISCO for the win, ooh wait the bulk of the products are manufactured in China, then Mexico and Ireland and now the Palestinian Territories... Never mind that the NSA's Tailored Access Operations may or may not have backdoors installed in CISCO hardware. "But it's very hard to investigate a big player"

 

No matter who you buy from or who you are, you need a testing and vetting process. Even if your American and you think you are buying American

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Case: Corsair Obsidian 450D - PSU: Corsair HX1200 - MOB: MSI X470 GAMING M7 - CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (OC 4.2)  - RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 64GB (3000MHz) - GPU: AMD Radeon VII - Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB NVMe & Samsung 850 EVO 2TB - Cooling: Corsair H150i PRO RGB & 2 ML140 PRO RGB LED PWM & 1 ML120 PRO RGB LED PWM - Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 (MX Silent) - Mouse: Corsair DARK CORE RGB SE - Sound: Audio-Technica ATH-AD1000X (Open-Air) -

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