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(16core added)AMD 3000 specs! 4.7 GHZ, R9 3950x, R7 3700x, 3800x.

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Source: AMD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0Q75xCwDU

Source 2: https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

Source 3:  Anandtech

Source for 16 core: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/10/18660213/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-16-core-gaming-cpu-processor-e3-2019

Products will be available on shelves on 7/7/2019 (july 7).

 

While ryzen 9 3900x is dual chiplet, 6+6 cores, For the Ryzen 7 lineup, AMD is keeping this for the 8-core versions. These CPUs only have a single chiplet inside, and no dummy chiplet!

Also Lisa Su has confirmed that the Threadripper is not dead.

 

 

GAMING PERFORMANCE:

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ZEN 2 Arhitecture

15% IPC improvement
2x Cache Size
2x Floating Point

Available: July 7  (16 core in september)

 

Ryzen 9 3950X

16 Cores | 32 Threads   (8+8 chiplets)
3.5GHz Base | 4.7GHz Boost
72MB Cache | 64MB L3, 8MB L2
105W TDP

749$ USD

 

Ryzen 5 3600

6 Cores | 12 Threads
3.6GHz Base | 4.2GHz Boost

35MB Cache | 32MB L3, 3MB L2
65W TDP

199$ USD

 

Ryzen 5 3600X

6 Cores | 12 Threads
3.8GHz Base | 4.4GHz Boost

32MB Cache | 32MB L3, 3MB L2
105W TDP

249$ USD

 

Ryzen 7 3700X 
8 Cores | 16 Threads
3.6GHz Base | 4.4GHz Boost

36MB Cache | 32MB L3, 4MB L2
65W TDP

4806 CB points in CB20.

329$ USD

 

Ryzen 7 3800X

8 Cores | 16 Threads
3.9GHz Base | 4.5GHz Boost
36MB Cache| 32MB L3, 4MB L2
105W TDP

399$ USD

 

Ryzen 9 3900X

12 Cores | 24 Threads   (6+6 chiplets)
3.8GHz Base | 4.6GHz Boost
70MB Cache | 64MB L3, 6MB L2
105W TDP

499$ USD

 

 

Single and Multicore Cinebench performance (by AMD)

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Direct chip to chip comparisons put AMD’s single thread performance against Intel at +1%. Though it should be noted here that something like the Ryzen 7 3800X, which boosts to 4.5 GHz, is being compared to an Intel CPU that boosts to 5.0 GHz. That would put IPC on this test firmly in the hands of AMD. Multi-threading results are a similar scenario, although the margin of difference tends to drop the more cores that AMD has access to, perhaps because more cores are fighting to get to the memory with a slightly extended memory latency compared from Intel.

 

Comparing Zen 1 to Zen 2, AMD is promoting that the Ryzen 9 3900X offers +32% better single threaded performance over the Ryzen 7 1800X. Given that we saw a 40-52% IPC increase from pre-Zen to Zen 1, another +32% on single threaded performance is a good amount to have, although that 32% does include frequency uplift. When we get the chips in, we’ll do an obvious comparison test to find the IPC difference. In multi-threaded results, AMD is promoting +100% multithreaded performance, which is helped by +50% more cores, 2x better FP throughput per core, and higher frequencies.

 

Many images, i will post more when the stream comes back.

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Well rumors weren't exactly true, no 5ghz, but 4.7ghz is damn close.

 

MY THOUGHTS

 

I think that the IPC jump is huge, and it mitigates the slightly lower clockspeeds. But 4.6ghz is still very fast.

No 16 core is a bit of a bummer, but it will probably come at the end of the year. 

I will get the 3900x with the highest end X570 and 360mm rad, time to try overclocking.

 

VERY VERY MY OWN THOUGHTS

5Ghz overclock on water is possible on some lucky chips, but AMD didn't want to do that because of the extra binning required and they didn't want to make a 250w 12 core. It is on a new node, so the max core boost shouldn't be the max limit for overclocks. Will have to wait for reviews on that ofc.

 

Relevant mystery link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkSTp_tJI2o

 

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So each CCX module has 6 cores by design?


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@Dan Castellaneta Time to start gloating.


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How you like Adored now? 

3800x/3700x will definitely be my new proc. Gotta read/watch reviews closely in the next few months


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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

So each CCX module has 6 cores by design?

Not likely, probably still 4 core CCX. Ryzen 9 is a dual die. Basically, the 3900X is a gimped Zen 2 version of the 1920X/2920X.

 

 

I just hope that there is a 3920X, I'd like the PCIe lanes and quad channel memory.

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

So each CCX module has 6 cores by design?

Either that or they didnt have enough yields of the 8 core to go 2x8 on a 16c processor as it would have severely killed the 3800x availability and I think thats the one they really want to see take off?


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Personally I think the 3800X is gonna be the low seller. The price increase versus what you get is marginal from the specs given so far over a 3700X. But maybe they will pull an intel and reduce pcie lanes or something. 

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Oh boy, Intel is in trouble. The biggest wildcard is why the TDP differential between the 3700X and the 3800X is so high. At that point I thought there was something really up with power consumption, but then they announced the 3900X also at 105W..

 

Either way, this is pretty awesome and I'm curious to see if these parts will hit 5GHz. I've got a pretty good feeling they will and at these price points, it'll be interesting to see what Intel can do from here. That 12C/24T part at 499USD is a serious undercut 


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2 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

How you like Adored now? 

3800x/3700x will definitely be my new proc. Gotta read/watch reviews closely in the next few months

I personally think the 3700X is much more tempting than the 3800X for mainstream users, whereas 3800X is more suited for overclockers

Also, that 3900X with 12c/24t and 105W TDP, Intel is in SERIOUS trouble now


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Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

Where's those 16 cores and 32 threads I was promised?

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Probably on the 3950X.


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I'm sure it will come in time.  I'll be switching back to AMD on July 7th.  I've had enough of Intel.


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2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Where's those 16 cores and 32 threads I was promised?

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Threadripper, perhaps. They were making out the 3900X as their best of the best on consumer platforms, so that'd be my best guess.


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1 minute ago, StealthArsenal said:

I'm sure it will come in time.  I'll be switching back to AMD on July 7th.  I've had enough of Intel.

For sure. Intel was long overdue to be dethroned as the gaming king, but it'll be interesting to see if they make up for lost ground with their next launch either way. In any case, my money's still on Ryzen, even if Intel does take back single core.


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2 minutes ago, Kobz360 said:

The biggest wildcard is why the TDP differential between the 3700X and the 3800X is so high.

Higher base clock and sustain boost clock maybe?

2 minutes ago, SeraphicWings said:

I personally think the 3700X is much more tempting than the 3800X for mainstream users, whereas 3800X is more suited for overclockers

 Also, that 3900X with 12c/24t and 105W TDP, Intel is in SERIOUS trouble now

Indeed, but there must be a reason for that price and TDP different. 


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4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Not likely, probably still 4 core CCX. Ryzen 9 is a dual die. Basically, the 3900X is a gimped Zen 2 version of the 1920X/2920X.

4 core CCX with 2 CCX per die? I'm just thinking keeping AM4 CPUs with 2 CCX, whatever. 

 

5 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

Either that or they didnt have enough yields of the 8 core to go 2x8 on a 16c processor as it would have severely killed the 3800x availability and I think thats the one they really want to see take off?

It could be 7nm yields yes, fully working dies goes to Eypc and TR (if the latter exists)

 

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9 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Where's those 16 cores and 32 threads I was promised?

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Wait until Intel announces i11 50c/100t 1kW CPU out of desperation.


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6 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Where's those 16 cores and 32 threads I was promised?

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Boardmakers are saying that 16 cores is coming. Don’t be silly. 


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Just now, xAcid9 said:

Indeed, but there must be a reason for that price and TDP different. 

AMD probably cuts all the unnecessary features to aim for the very best price / performance ratio on multi-core

But the support for PCIe 4.0 and that low TDP probably surprises everyone

 


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7 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Where's those 16 cores and 32 threads I was promised?

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Its to counter intels counter to the 12c, AMD is not stupid. why release a 16c now when intel is not expected to beat the 12c soon.


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