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I was looking to buy a new graphics card. And i cant help go wonder what would be better...to buy the evga 2080ti watercooled card orr....the evga 2080ti ftw3 ultra gaming card and watercool it my self for better temp....can anyone help me?

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Unless you are going to put a strong overclock on the card, you don't really need one with great VRMs. Just make sure to not go with a card with a blower cooler, if one exists for the 2080TI lineup.

 

If you want to watercool your card, for compatibility's sake you are better off going with one with a reference design board. You can go with one with a custom board of course, but it could be harder to find water blocks for it, depending on which one you choose.  


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Better for what? From a value perspective you're better off buying the cheapest card that satisfies your current needs and upgrade as soon as it no longer does. Overclocking will give you better performance but in most cases it's a 10-15% boost even on a good card.

 

On the other hand if you're doing it for pure hardware porn I would definitely go for the custom loop.


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In a custom loop you can share a set of much larger radiators than the 120mm that usually comes with a water cooled card.  You also have to option to replace individual components if they fail.  The biggest drawback in the larger upfront cost and difficulty of plumbing it.


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short answer for this gen, "cheaper card" (FE) and change the cooling.


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On 5/27/2019 at 3:28 AM, Phentos said:

Unless you are going to put a strong overclock on the card, you don't really need one with great VRMs. Just make sure to not go with a card with a blower cooler, if one exists for the 2080TI lineup.

 

If you want to watercool your card, for compatibility's sake you are better off going with one with a reference design board. You can go with one with a custom board of course, but it could be harder to find water blocks for it, depending on which one you choose.  

Why what's the issue with blower style cards?

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On 5/27/2019 at 3:42 AM, Sauron said:

Better for what? From a value perspective you're better off buying the cheapest card that satisfies your current needs and upgrade as soon as it no longer does. Overclocking will give you better performance but in most cases it's a 10-15% boost even on a good card.

 

On the other hand if you're doing it for pure hardware porn I would definitely go for the custom loop.

I am trying to build a system to run neural networks....i currently have a lenovo e431 core i3, gtx 740m and it is pathetic....so i wanted to build a system that could keep up with the load for about 2years

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Just now, Anuj Bhardwaj said:

I am trying to build a system to run neural networks....i currently have a lenovo e431 core i3, gtx 740m and it is pathetic....so i wanted to build a system that could keep up with the load for about 2years

There's no way to predict for how long a card will be adequate - either way watercooling won't benefit you there. I suggest you get the cheapest 2080ti you can get from a reputable brand.


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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Theres a few AIO 2080ti. Im personally using the aorus 2080ti extreme waterforce and it runs great. temps around 55-62 while gaming with cores maintaining around 2100mhz all the time. Theres also the MSI SeahawkX but i choose the aorus because it has 240mm rad and looks nicer. 

 

It cost 200-300 more. Save you all the trouble and time plus you are fully covered by warranty 

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I always get the basic version of the card normally being fe or reference and just put a water block on it. Never worth the price of the facny card, then at launch waiting even longer for the fancy cards block to be made. 

 

Havent seen the oc difference of a fancy card be notociable in game. Assuming it does oc better. 


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On 5/26/2019 at 5:34 PM, Anuj Bhardwaj said:

I was looking to buy a new graphics card. And i cant help go wonder what would be better...to buy the evga 2080ti watercooled card orr....the evga 2080ti ftw3 ultra gaming card and watercool it my self for better temp....can anyone help me?

yes, just buy the FTW 3 EVGA 2080ti and stick it in your system and call it a day...enjoy!


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