January 24th 2014 - The WAN Show Document

[LinusTech]

Topic Callouts
Steam in-home streaming
South Korea working on 5g
Attempt at trademarking the word “Candy”
The black is back

< News Items >

Alienware Steam Machine not impossible to upgrade
http://kotaku.com/you-can-upgrade-the-un-upgradable-steam-machine-but-it-1507211467?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
- Not STOPPING you from upgrading… just making it clear that it wont be easy
- Mobo and PSU issues?
- GPU/CPU/Storage likely not a big deal
- Suggests an Alienware X51 if you actually think you may ever try to change anything

Speech Recognition Hack turns Chrome into a Bugging Device
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/106069-speech-recognition-hack-turns-google-chrome-into-advanced-bugging-device/
- Mic has to be activated first
- I don’t know anyone that doesn't insta close pop-ups, and pop-unders are incredibly uncommon
- it can pull specific words like “NSA” or “Syria” - can then start recording based on hearing those words
- allowing mic usage and totally not noticing a pop window seems not super likey, but what if there is a way to do it without a popup
- Google claims it isn’t evil
- why isn't google fixing it? they have known for 4 months


Valve is Sending out Invites for In Home Streaming… We didn’t get one
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/steam-in-home-streaming-beta-invites-going-out-now/1100-6417141/
- undisclosed amount of keys
- WE don’t have one… soo…. yeah…
- having some driver issues, valve pushes users to update
- Very mixed reviews from the public so far, large number of the complaints coming from Wireless N or below though, excited for someone with the hardware variance to properly test this thing go to town on it
- You can still sign up by joining the steam in-home streaming group on steam

Microsoft offering overseas Data Storage
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/105720-microsoft-offers-overseas-data-storage-in-response-to-nsa-concerns/
- offering customers in foreign countries the option of having their data stored outside US borders.
- Peace of mind?? recently revealed that NSA had penetrated Yahoo/MS/Google internal networks
- NSA was using microsofts network to spy on people from the EU and brazil, this pushed them to do something about it

Microsoft Paying YouTubers for Mentions - and Sponsorship in general
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/104998-ms-paying-youtubers-for-xbox-one-mentions/
- additional $3 CPM
- To qualify for the campaign -
     Machinima partner
     at least 30 seconds of Xbox One game footage
     mentioned the Xbox One by name
     included the tag "XB1M13."
- "may not say anything negative or disparaging about Machinima, Xbox One, or any of its Games"
- must keep the details of the promotional agreement confidential in order to qualify for payment.
- FTC Guidelines example : If a blogger received a gift of say a gaming system. That blogger would need to disclose that gift, because his opinion is "disseminated via a form of consumer-generated media in which his relationship to the advertiser is not inherently obvious." - that being said I the Oculus was purchased by me and the Wii-U in an upcoming video was purchased as well...
- apology for lenses clip in oculus video
 
Amd considered gddr5 for kaveri… 8core possibility? quad channel ram?
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/104652-amd-considered-gddr5-for-kaveri-and-there-could-be-an-8-core-variant-coming/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7702/amd-kaveri-docs-reference-quadchannel-memory-interface-gddr5-option
http://www.corsair.com/us/blog/kaveri-ddr-part1/
- Future could potentially also implement 2x 64-bit DDR3 channels alongside 2x 32-bit GDDR5 channels, with the latter serving as a framebuffer for graphics operations
- guide specifically shows an eight-core Kaveri-based variant attached to a multi-socket system
- these chips in particular contain five links for connection to I/O and other processors, whereas the older Family 15h chips (Bulldozer and Piledriver) only offer four Hypertransport links.


Nvidia the black is back
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/104796-nvidia-the-black-is-backnow-say-black-back-as-fast-as-you-can-oh-and-the-gtx-790/
800 series speculated release date still 2014

Dogecoin and others send the jamaican bobsled team to sochi
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1virfc/lets_send_the_jamaican_bobsled_team_to_the_winter/ceu5d3e
- Jamaican team of driver Winston Watts and brakeman Marvin Dixon had hoped to raise $80,000
- the team now has more than $184,000
- The Dogecoin effort produced around $30,000
- They had a few other campaigns going on like an indiegogo and a crowdtilt campaign as well

Apple releases super underpowered phone at not super underpowered price
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+ReLaunches+Elderly+iPhone+4+in+India/article34176.htm
- The price tag will be Rs 22,900 (about $370 USD)
- Other android and windows phones are much more affordable and powerful
- Apparently apple sales have dropped due to iPhone 5s/5c being priced too high… this was supposed to help?

LTT World Cancer Day Support
(optional) http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/103129-calling-all-members-of-ltt-forum/
- Banner up and donate your compute power to folding/boinc for world cancer day!

South Korea develops 5G networks
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/south-korea-to-spend-1-5-billion-on-5g-movie-in-a-second-service/articleshow/29193519.cms
-1.6 trillion won ($1.5 billion) plan to roll out a next-generation 5G wireless service quick enough to download full-length films in a second
- stated that 2G, 3G, and 4G services all boosted national growth, sees no reason why 5G wont as well
- commercial service in December 2020.
-aims to expand the telecom infrastructure equipment industry, currently much weaker than its mobile device sector.
- Seoul intends to take up to a 20 percent stake in the world's telecom infrastructure
-people on bullet trains running faster than 500 kilometres (310 miles) an hour would even be able to access the Internet, compared with 300 kph currently.
- Samsung announced in May that it successfully tested 5G technology, more than one gigabyte per second over a distance of two kilometres.
- Samsung found a way to harness millimetre-wave bands which have proved to be an issue

Small town alberta gets 1000mbps broadband network
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/small-alberta-town-gets-massive-1-000-mbps-broadband-boost-1.1382428
- they currently pay about $57 to $90 a month for 100mbit/s, the cost will not be increasing but the bandwidth will jump to 1000mbit/s (cost variance is based on bundles)
- "Because we're a community-owned project we get to balance out profitability versus what's best for the community."
- Would share the connection with other users on the same node, apparently never more than 4 or 5 though
- google fiber is about 70$/mo
- average Canadian internet download speed of just 16.6 megabits per second for an average of about $54/mo
- apparently some engineering businesses were sending drives via courier because it was much faster than sending over the internet, due to this they threatened to leave… the council dealt with that, no one is threatening to leave anymore
- Businesses in town can buy access to a dedicated, guaranteed gigabit per second of bandwidth for $5,000 a month


Brix Pro Discussion (CES highlight) - can relate back to steam OS and streaming
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/22/t-mobile-mobile-money-prepaid-visa-free-checking/

De-mystifying Crystal Cove
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game/posts/728398

LTT Star Citizen
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/UOLTT
JOIN UP SOLDIER.

CandyJam aims to make fun of trademarking the word candy
http://itch.io/jam/candyjam
- because trademarking common words is ridiculous and because it gives us an occasion to make another gamejam
- Make a game involving candies
Consider using the word "candy" several times, also "scroll", "memory", "saga", "apple" and "edge" might give bonus points
- STARTS NOW. ENDS 3RD OF FEBRUARY
- 27 games so far submitted
- I’ll pay $100 if someone makes the game “candy-ass candy eaters”

Annnnnd they have done worse
http://junkyardsam.com/kingcopied/
- Compare pictures… its the same damn game
- Developer hired by King admits they copied it
- scamper ghost wasn’t the most original of games, but it still had its qualities, pac-avoid is just brutal
- king told an otherwise moral indie dev that there was a signed contract that the devs of “scamper ghost” signed and ditched at the last moment, this drove them to side with king and copy the game
- the scamper ghost guys arn’t mad at epic shadow, the guys that copied the game… they’re mad at King for pushing them to die so and lying about the contract and now trying to trademark “candy”
 

[helping]

oh god i cant see

 

drop the black colored text pls

 

 

thanks on behalf of night theme users for fixing. 

Edited January 25, 2014 by helping

[qwertywarrior]

i cant watch the archive too laggy

i guess its because of the high bitrate

also no quality selection (low med high)

[Imabigmac]

oh god i cant see

 

drop the black colored text pls

Then don't use night theme. 

[LinusTech]

archive is up on the youtubes

 

[MasterJV]

archive is up on the youtubes

Wow, that was quick. Time to watch the archive. Any rants this week? I love seeing people rant.

[chris_guitar]

Has anyone made the game yet?

 

If not I'm making it.

[Hans Power]

I have a question regarding the kaveri APUs. I'm more of an average gamer with not so much money at my disposal and I used to buy AMD CPUs because of that (still using a Phenom II X4 965) because it was good gaming performance at a low price compared to intel. Will the upcoming AMD APUs be in this price to performance sweetspot again like their old CPUs used to be so that it'll be a good bargain for the average gamer or does it just feature more stuff which will only increase performance in certain professional applications but still be way behind intel when it comes to raw gaming performance?

[chris_guitar]

I have a question regarding the kaveri APUs. I'm more of an average gamer with not so much money at my disposal and I used to buy AMD CPUs because of that (still using a Phenom II X4 965) because it was good gaming performance at a low price compared to intel. Will the upcoming AMD APUs be in this price to performance sweetspot again like their old CPUs used to be so that it'll be a good bargain for the average gamer or does it just feature more stuff which will only increase performance in certain professional applications but still be way behind intel when it comes to raw gaming performance?

You should direct this to a thread but base on current pricing we can only speculate that it will be good based on the performance / price of current gen APU's. Linus has a video build guide of a budget APU build on his channel also.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlCqYyAQE_w

[Hans Power]

You should direct this to a thread but base on current pricing we can only speculate that it will be good based on the performance / price of current gen APU's. Linus has a video build guide of a budget APU build on his channel also.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlCqYyAQE_w

 

I know, I watch his videos regularly. And the question came up because they talked about the Kaveri and its upcoming features in this WAN show so I thought I'd post it here.

 

Edit: I'll rephrase the question. I guess it's more a question about the direction in which AMD is going in the future with its APUs - with all its new tech which will drive the price up but not necessarily increase performance on all levels, will it be still interesting to the average to hardcore PC gamer? From what Linus and Luke talked about it doesn't look that way. So what do you guys think?

[PortentousLad]

I'd move to Korea, Korean women are gorgeous! Also the weather and it has lots of ocean. (But seriously I don't know enough about the country to make an educated judgement, I'll be researching it though!)

 

Microsoft Paying YouTubers for Mentions:  I don't care I'm so biased all I hear is "Kaveri" at this point.

 

Microsoft offering overseas Data Storage: Surprised this hasn't happened sooner and more.

[kaneandtaker]

Linus and Slick mentioned the LTT badge uproar happening? I don't frequent these forums. Can someone show me the thread/link or enlighten me more about it?

[L Lawliet]

i have made the candy-ass candy eaters game where do i submit it?

:')

no seriously made it in like 15 mins

[L Lawliet]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rn391yzlk24e4h3/candy-ass%20candy%20eaters.exe my beautiful game love me linus :3

[Legion]

I'd move to Korea, Korean women are gorgeous!

 

Yes yes they are..

[Mafoo]

Just wanted to comment on the Microsoft paying people thing, and where I disagree with you a bit.

 

The issue I have with the Microsoft thing, is when I listen to someone on Youtube, I expect it to be either unbiased, or known that there is a bias because they are sponsored. I expect you to say nothing but good things about Squarespace because they are paying you. However if I find an un-sponsored youtube review on Squarespace, I expect it to be the honest unfiltered opinion from that person.

 

Your roll is to let me know they exist, and what they do. It's the roll of someone not paid by them to tell me there worth. Those are very different things. Microsoft wants to change that balance, by not letting me know they are paying people, so I apply more weight to the the review with respect to worth then I should.

 

That's the reason it's bad.

[ooloops]

 

The new logo looks great Linus!

[ayandon]

 

Dear Linus,

I like your show a lot.
Regarding STEAM In Home Streaming, I have a plan which will never become true but it will be awesome.

"PS3 or Console as Streaming Client"

It would be awesome if I can install a PS3 or other 'powerful console' app that can work as a Streaming Client in my living room.

My PC or Steam Machine will work as a streaming server.
My PS3 will work as a streaming client.
I will use a wireless/usb mouse and keyboard with the PS3 to play.

I think PS3 or XBOX is good enough to be a streaming client.

What do you think?

[Toxic Tom]

I made candy ass candy eaters

 

http://toxic-tom.itch.io/candy-ass-candy-eaters

 

And I was the first to submit it to the candyjam... $100?

[Krayox]

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/17099162/ most advanced game in the human history

[chris_guitar]

i have made the candy-ass candy eaters game where do i submit it?

:')

no seriously made it in like 15 mins

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rn391yzlk24e4h3/candy-ass%20candy%20eaters.exe my beautiful game love me linus :3

 

Don't download the game, comes up as virus on MSE. You've been warned.

 

I made candy ass candy eaters

 

http://toxic-tom.itch.io/candy-ass-candy-eaters

 

And I was the first to submit it to the candyjam... $100?

 

The only decent one made so far. Congrats, I think you should win, not the other two guys, you've put the most effort in.

 

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/17099162/ most advanced game in the human history

 

Linus was way to vague about this, I've been going at this for a couple of days now and this beats me? wow. How amazing.

 

 

Next time be more specific Linus, unless you want something that isn't quality work.

[hawaiims]

 

The new logo looks great Linus!

>Weekly Anal

 

I think you still have some letters missing bahahahaha :lol:

[Toxic Tom]

Don't download the game, comes up as virus on MSE. You've been warned.

Don't worry, it's fine. It's not what I would call a game but it's not a virus

The only decent one made so far. Congrats, I think you should win, not the other two guys, you've put the most effort in.

Thanks man!

[applebook]

Am I the only one who loves the South Park references? 

 

[chris_guitar]

Don't worry, it's fine. It's not what I would call a game but it's not a virus

Thanks man!

 

Oh okay, I'm just disappointed that yours was the only "game". The others look like they were put together in 10 minutes, no offense.