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Hello everyone, been planning to make a new build for some time now (trying to figure out what to get) and I have posted a forum on here and got quite far, I also then explored on some other forums and came up with these builds:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Finley_Crofts/saved/#view=dQcb8d (Please say if this doesn't work.)
There are four builds there and my budget is around £1200 UK, however, I have decided to start a build at a very weird time  for the market as AMD are releasing some new stuff, etc, so I am just posting again to see if the build is good for the value and if I was going to make an intel version what would you go for in CPU wise as I am not that good with Intel.

I have gone for a 2700x as I will be doing a lot of gaming however I will be doing heavy editing, etc, I have already got my HHDS with me so I am just buying a 1tb SSD for some more storage (faster loading times).

I have been told to wait for the new 3000 series and get a full-sized ATX b500 board for when they come out however just want to know if it is worth the wait and if it is, does anyone know some hints for the release date?

My original colour scheme was black and white so I want to try and stick with that theme, however, if you can not no worries.
(Will be some case fans as well, NOT PLANNING ON OC ANYTIME SOME!)
This is my first pc build so any tips I will appreciate it, please don't be harsh on me if the build is, well you know, crap.

 

Thank You for your time
Have a Great Day

Finley Crofts :)

 


 

 

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3 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Hello everyone, been planning to make a new build for some time now (trying to figure out what to get) and I have posted a forum on here and got quite far, I also then explored on some other forums and came up with these builds:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Finley_Crofts/saved/#view=dQcb8d (Please say if this doesn't work.)
There are four builds there and my budget is around £1200 UK, however, I have decided to start a build at a very weird time  for the market as AMD are releasing some new stuff, etc, so I am just posting again to see if the build is good for the value and if I was going to make an intel version what would you go for in CPU wise as I am not that good with Intel.

I have gone for a 2700x as I will be doing a lot of gaming however I will be doing heavy editing, etc, I have already got my HHDS with me so I am just buying a 1tb SSD for some more storage (faster loading times).

I have been told to wait for the new 3000 series and get a full-sized ATX b500 board for when they come out however just want to know if it is worth the wait and if it is, does anyone know some hints for the release date?

My original colour scheme was black and white so I want to try and stick with that theme, however, if you can not no worries.
(Will be some case fans as well, NOT PLANNING ON OC ANYTIME SOME!)
This is my first pc build so any tips I will appreciate it, please don't be harsh on me if the build is, well you know, crap.

 

Thank You for your time
Have a Great Day

Finley Crofts :)

 


 

 

You'll know more next week, hold off til then.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

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OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

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7 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

does anyone know some hints for the release date?

presentation in Computex, product release likely 7th July to match up their 7nm marketing

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

arent there better SSD rather than intel 660p, like maybe for pure loading games its fine for other stuff i dont see its being better than high end Sata 3 SSD's

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Just now, Oalei said:

arent there better SSD rather than intel 660p, like maybe for pure loading games its fine for other stuff i dont see its being better than high end Sata 3 SSD's

it's actually a nvme

 

qlc tho...

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

it's actually a nvme

 

qlc tho...

well the performance mantain is pretty bad and the durability of it is also bad, i mean there is a lot of other things to consider than qlc and NVME AFAIK

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1 minute ago, Oalei said:

well the performance mantain is pretty bad and the durability of it is also bad, i mean there is a lot of other things to consider than qlc and NVME AFAIK

the durability is good enough to white like... 110 gigs per day to it (i recall)

 

it uses slc caching tho, so it'll slow down over how far you fill it, that's about it

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7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Ha!  I knew you'd post a build :P

 

Good $1200 setup tho.  

 

3 minutes ago, Oalei said:

well the performance mantain is pretty bad and the durability of it is also bad, i mean there is a lot of other things to consider than qlc and NVME AFAIK

 

Intel's 660p NVMe-sorta drives will seem the same as a SATA or full NVMe drive in gaming/regular use, so really it's just price per GB for us.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£193.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£80.47 @ Ebuyer) check with ebuyer if bios is updated.
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£73.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£110.21 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card  (£634.77 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.97 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1242.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 16:45 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the durability is good enough to white like... 110 gigs per day to it (i recall)

  

it uses slc caching tho, so it'll slow down over how far you fill it, that's about it

 

5 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Intel's 660p NVMe-sorta drives will seem the same as a SATA or full NVMe drive in gaming/regular use, so really it's just price per GB for us.

well its just for other stuff but for gaming only i would reccomend it, if its cheaper than let say SX8200Pro.

 

NVM i just checked that PPL dont have SX8200Pro

Edited by Oalei
welp my bad different continent.
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What type of editing will you be doing and with what software?

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7 minutes ago, Bearmann said:

What type of editing will you be doing and with what software?

I have started doing more photo editing using photoshop and also other programs like blender however my pc isn't good enough for rendering blender images etc.

For editing I use Adobe Prem or Hitfilm, I use both since each one has easier features than others.

I don't know if a 2700x will be too overkill for that and gaming it is what people are recommending me on other forums. I could go for 2600 what is more performance to money (Think) however that is better for gaming than the other ones isn't it?

The things I edit are normally at 1080p60HD, however, the PC I have got now struggles a lot when it comes to editing, so I have been using my Dads laptop seen as it is way better than my desktop xd. I sometimes can do 4k but that's when I am at my friends for some recording and audio booth recordings. I just need a nice future proof pc in editing and gaming.
I don't even know if I should go for AMD, I understand AMD a lot more than Intel. (I am still new to all of this so if I am wrong please correct me.)

If You have any recommendations please say.


Thank You In Advance

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1 hour ago, Finley_Crofts said:

I have started doing more photo editing using photoshop and also other programs like blender however my pc isn't good enough for rendering blender images etc.

For editing I use Adobe Prem or Hitfilm, I use both since each one has easier features than others.

I don't know if a 2700x will be too overkill for that and gaming it is what people are recommending me on other forums. I could go for 2600 what is more performance to money (Think) however that is better for gaming than the other ones isn't it?

The things I edit are normally at 1080p60HD, however, the PC I have got now struggles a lot when it comes to editing, so I have been using my Dads laptop seen as it is way better than my desktop xd. I sometimes can do 4k but that's when I am at my friends for some recording and audio booth recordings. I just need a nice future proof pc in editing and gaming.
I don't even know if I should go for AMD, I understand AMD a lot more than Intel. (I am still new to all of this so if I am wrong please correct me.)

If You have any recommendations please say.


Thank You In Advance

If you can, wait until Puget tests the Ryzen 3000 chips, but with what we have today for Adobe Photoshop/Premier Pro I would go with an Intel/Nvidia build for Intel Quick Sync, Cuda acceleration, and greater Adobe compatibility. Although the Ryzen 2700X is a little superior in Premier Pro, the Intel chip is better in Phtoshop. You can look up the Lightroom tests at Puget if you use that too. It seems like most people are going to Intel now for the Quick Sync. (I only saw 3 builds on your link, not four)

 

This would be a nice build.If it's over budget, I can make changes. The i7-8600 is loud and throttles at turbo, so it needs an aftermarket cooler. If you have another £100, I would move up to the 8 core i7-9700K.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£274.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  (£28.03 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - B365 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£105.20 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£131.98 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£108.52 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£433.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.97 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£90.97 @ Novatech)
Total: £1243.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 19:44 BST+0100

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-CC-139/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2018-Core-i7-9700K-i9-9900K-Performance-1254/

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-Core-i7-9700K-i9-9900K-Performance-1248/

 

https://youtu.be/8sqs5aRBzCk?t=473

 

 
 
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFsX6TM2aU ; (summary begins at 8:24)
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1 hour ago, Bearmann said:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
50 minutes ago, Bearmann said:

If you can, wait until Puget tests the Ryzen 3000 chips, but with what we have today for Adobe Photoshop/Premier Pro I would go with an Intel/Nvidia build for Intel Quick Sync, Cuda acceleration, and greater Adobe compatibility. Although the Ryzen 2700X is a little superior in Premier Pro, the Intel chip is better in Phtoshop. You can look up the Lightroom tests at Puget if you use that too. It seems like most people are going to Intel now for the Quick Sync. (I only saw 3 builds on your link, not four)

 

This would be a nice build.If it's over budget, I can make changes. The i7-8600 is loud and throttles at turbo, so it needs an aftermarket cooler. If you have another £100, I would move up to the 8 core i7-9700K.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£274.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  (£28.03 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - B365 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£105.20 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£131.98 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£108.52 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£433.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.97 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£90.97 @ Novatech)
Total: £1243.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 19:44 BST+0100

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-CC-139/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2018-Core-i7-9700K-i9-9900K-Performance-1254/

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-Core-i7-9700K-i9-9900K-Performance-1248/

 

https://youtu.be/8sqs5aRBzCk?t=473

 

 
 
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFsX6TM2aU ; (summary begins at 8:24)

Hi, thank you so much for this build. I have looked at the links you included within your post.

It looks great however if I was to make a Gaming computer and not go so heavy on the editing what would you suggest?

I'm starting to cut down on on the editing side of things nowadays and more of the photo editing on photoshop due to me having more passion for it, sorry if this is a pain you can just ignore this.

If I was to make this change, should I stick with Intel Processors seen as they tend to be better in photoshop? Or should I go with an AMD and use different editing Programs what I am perfectly fine with(adobe photoshop is a rip off). I'm sorry that I didn't say that I was cutting down On editing seen as you built a pc made for Heavy editing and photoshop, yet again I really appreciate your help.

 

My budget is £1200 Uk however I can afford to go better over depending on how much it is.
I really appreciate this and I will look into a bit more, thank you for your help and sorry for being a pain in the ass xd :)!

 

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Hey, that's what this forum is for!

1080P gaming (most, not all) will also benefit from the Intel i7-8700 over the Ryzen 7 2700X. HOwever, I still advise waiting for Ryzen 3000 and checking reviews and benchmarks. Oh, I forgot to mention that I increased your RAM for video editing.

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgB7nXliBiE

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWvNbqFKLrs

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvfGWx0B4PY

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