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Posted · Original PosterOP

I do need the 9900k as it will greatly increase my productivity, I’m trying to fit this in my budget 1200. I already have the case psu and have a gift card for 200 dollar mother board so that cost isn’t in this. Thanks :)

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1200$?

oof, what do you do? a 9700k or a 2700x might be a better fit (probably will)


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

1200$?

oof, what do you do? a 9700k or a 2700x might be a better fit (probably will)

Ok I mean yeah 

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14 minutes ago, Puffing said:

Ok I mean yeah 

what do you want to do with ur PC?


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CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

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Schiit Fulla 2 & Sennheiser HD 598 Cs | KZ ZS10 Pro

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
43 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

what do you want to do with ur PC?

Make YouTube videos with premiere pro and play games at 1080p, aaa titles.

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15 minutes ago, Puffing said:

Make YouTube videos with premiere pro and play games at 1080p, aaa titles.

1080p aaa and premier pro will be fine with 9600k, use the cash saved for a better gpu, i.e. 2060.


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CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

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7 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

1080p aaa and premier pro will be fine with 9600k, use the cash saved for a better gpu, i.e. 2060.

Yeah, no way you need a 9900k or even 9700k for that kind of usage. The i5-9600k would be perfect. I used an i5-8600k for a bit with premiere pro and sony vegas pro and it worked like a dream, and was fantastic for 1080p gaming. 


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the 9600k would bottleneck on some AAA games at higher frame rates, i know because a 8600k at 5ghz doesn't even hit 100fps during fights in division 2, and considering the exploit with intel cpus and hyper threading and ur budget, ur only choice is a 9700k, and hopefully a 2060 is enough for 1080p/144hz if you turn to medium-high on settings.


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8 minutes ago, xg32 said:

the 9600k would bottleneck on some AAA games at higher frame rates, i know because a 8600k at 5ghz doesn't even hit 100fps during fights in division 2, and considering the exploit with intel cpus and hyper threading and ur budget, ur only choice is a 9700k, and hopefully a 2060 is enough for 1080p/144hz if you turn go medium-high on settings.

Well The Division 2 is a pretty CPU intensive game. With OPs budget if they really wanted to they can do a 9700k, but still no need for the i9 though.


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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 9600k would bottleneck on some AAA games at higher frame rates, i know because a 8600k at 5ghz doesn't even hit 100fps during fights in division 2, and considering the exploit with intel cpus and hyper threading and ur budget, ur only choice is a 9700k, and hopefully a 2060 is enough for 1080p/144hz if you turn to medium-high on settings.

uhh...

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with 1080 ti.

upgrading to 9900k will get you WOAH 2%

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 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

Audio:

Schiit Fulla 2 & Sennheiser HD 598 Cs | KZ ZS10 Pro

 

My old computers:

Athlon XP + 2GB DDR1 + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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5 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

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pls dont bother with generic charts without specifics games, i've posted a list of games that 6/6 bottlenecks in the past, it's over 10 games and growing (even in a game like path of exile on 144hz), not what i'd recommend for a new build, especially if he's gonna play on 144hz. 


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5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

pls dont bother with generic charts without specifics games, i've posted a list of games that 6/6 bottlenecks in the past, it's over 10 games and growing (even in a game like path of exile on 144hz), not what i'd recommend for a new build, especially if he's gonna play on 144hz. 

144hz 1080p w/ a 1200+200$ budget?

PLEASE SHOW ME THE SPECS

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CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

Audio:

Schiit Fulla 2 & Sennheiser HD 598 Cs | KZ ZS10 Pro

 

My old computers:

Athlon XP + 2GB DDR1 + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

144hz 1080p w/ a 1200+200$ budget?

PLEASE SHOW ME THE SPECS

 

i mean he was trying for a 9900k, i'm just saying 9700k is more practical, it'll be tight with a 9700k/2060 either way, use an old ssd, ebay windows 10 etc.


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Just now, xg32 said:

i mean he was trying for a 9900k, i'm just saying 9700k is more practical, it'll be tight with a 9700k/2060 either way, use an old ssd, ebay windows 10 etc?

w/ a 9600k, and 1400$, you can fit a 2070. Across the board, 9600k + 2070 will get better FPS than 9700k/2060.

 


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CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

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Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

Audio:

Schiit Fulla 2 & Sennheiser HD 598 Cs | KZ ZS10 Pro

 

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4 hours ago, Puffing said:

I do need the 9900k as it will greatly increase my productivity, I’m trying to fit this in my budget 1200. I already have the case psu and have a gift card for 200 dollar mother board so that cost isn’t in this. Thanks :)

What case do you have?

What psu?

Is the gift card specific to a particular merchant? If so, which one?

Is the $1,200 USD? Is it for all the parts you do not already have? 

Must peripherals be included in the budget amount?


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6 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 9600k would bottleneck on some AAA games at higher frame rates, i know because a 8600k at 5ghz doesn't even hit 100fps during fights in division 2, and considering the exploit with intel cpus and hyper threading and ur budget, ur only choice is a 9700k, and hopefully a 2060 is enough for 1080p/144hz if you turn to medium-high on settings.

The 9600K won't bottleneck ANY current game. The division 2 is no exception. This benchmark has a 9400F pulling 143 FPS. Obviously the 9600K performs even better. An OCed 9600K can get into the 160 FPS range on average.

 

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Here's a video comparing the 9600K and the 9700K. Even during shootouts the FPS difference is usually less than 5:

 

 

During the shootout, it's GPU-bound. Yes, it's 100 FPS, but it's like that on all of the processors, because the GPU is the bottleneck.

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assuming you already have a case, psu and $200 gift card for mobo + $1200 for the other parts

 

 

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1 hour ago, jerubedo said:

The 9600K won't bottleneck ANY current game. The division 2 is no exception. This benchmark has a 9400F pulling 143 FPS. Obviously the 9600K performs even better. An OCed 9600K can get into the 160 FPS range on average.

 

 

i have the 8600k, i know what games bottleneck it, and you are showing benchmarks of a 9400F vs a 2600x, it does NOT dip below 100 on 9700k or 9900k (i play on 144)

 

the 9600k bottlenecks plenty of current games. you can't just pull the average frame rate and say there's no bottleneck, doesn't work that way, playing division 2 on a 8600k is terrible during fights and it doesn't happen on the 9900k. Of course alot of this doesn't matter below 85fps, so it depends on what the target fps is (op has already stated he's playing on 1080p), i would not use a zen+ or a 9600k for 144hz on modern/future triple AAA titles, it's gonna choke right out the gate. The very video you linked shows a very clear cpu bottleneck.

 

Edit: i just ran around in-game a bit, 8600k=100% usage, dipping into the low 90s (if theres anything in the background at all it's gonna be MUCH worse, even a youtube vid), while the 9900k dips into about 110, i monitor the usage and it's not a gpu bottleneck, There are times where even the 9900k goes up to 75%,usage (65% just standing around), some cores approaching 100%, if there was a faster cpu available it's likely that the minimum fps goes even higher (hoping zen 2 delivers).


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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

i have the 8600k, i know what games bottleneck it, and you are showing benchmarks of a 9400F vs a 2600x, it does NOT dip below 100 on 9700k or 9900k (i play on 144)

 

the 9600k bottlenecks plenty of current games. you can't just pull the average frame rate and say there's no bottleneck, doesn't work that way, playing division 2 on a 8600k is terrible during fights and it doesn't happen on the 9900k. Of course alot of this doesn't matter below 85fps, so it depends on what the target fps is (op has already stated he's playing on 1080p), i would not use a zen+ or a 9600k for 144hz on modern/future triple AAA titles, it's gonna choke right out the gate. The very video you linked shows a very clear cpu bottleneck.

 

Edit: i just ran around in-game a bit, 8600k=100% usage, dipping into the low 90s (if theres anything in the background at all it's gonna be MUCH worse, even a youtube vid), while the 9900k dips into about 110, i monitor the usage and it's not a gpu bottleneck, There are times where even the 9900k goes up to 75%,usage (65% just standing around), some cores approaching 100%, if there was a faster cpu available it's likely that the minimum fps goes even higher (hoping zen 2 delivers).

Did you watch the video as well? During a fight, the frame rate on the 9600K is about 113 FPS and on the 9700K it's 116 FPS. The GPU usage on both is 97%+. Hell, even the 2600x isn't a bottleneck. There are numerous videos and benchmarks from professional reviews that demonstrate this. I can't speak to what you're getting, but surely your own OS and settings aren't fresh like the people doing these tests are. There's a ton of factors that might affect your frame rate. 

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4 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Did you watch the video as well? During a fight, the frame rate on the 9600K is about 113 FPS and on the 9700K it's 116 FPS. The GPU usage on both is 97%+. There are numerous videos and benchmarks from professional reviews that demonstrate this. I can't speak to what you're getting, but surely your own OS and settings aren't fresh like the people doing these tests are. There's a ton of factors that might affect your frame rate. 

again, you are focusing on the average frame rates where i'm taking about the 1% and .1% lows, there's no way a 9600k is 113fps on the 1% lows when a 9900k/9700k is going about 105 during actual gameplay. it's closer to 90, The video you linked even showed over a 10% difference on the lows, that matters alot for a fps. Not to mention the 9600k is running at 100% the whole time, playing some AAA title while watching twitch or youtube will lead to severe stutters, not what i'd want for a new build. If OP is willing to go with a 9600k, then might as well go with zen+ and save some money.


9900k 1.39v 5.2 83C 185w 1.24v 4.9 60C 135w 1.05v 4.5 90w 50C (doing some testing for hot days) all-2avx cinebench/blender temps. avx voltages in prime. ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios fixed LLC voltage gaps ll gskill 2x8gb cl16 ddr4000 bdie 1.42v ll 4x samsung 970 evo 256gb (asus hyper pcie m2 raid card) ll 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 (<--i should've went with 1tb nvmemistake of the build) ll EVGA 2080 ti XC (duo fan skinny) 1995//7600 power limited 79C max, stock voltage (really bad ocer) ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA G2 1300w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA272w (movie, work mon) 2k60 14bit lut ll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (rgb98)

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11 hours ago, xg32 said:

again, you are focusing on the average frame rates where i'm taking about the 1% and .1% lows, there's no way a 9600k is 113fps on the 1% lows when a 9900k/9700k is going about 105 during actual gameplay. it's closer to 90, The video you linked even showed over a 10% difference on the lows, that matters alot for a fps. Not to mention the 9600k is running at 100% the whole time, playing some AAA title while watching twitch or youtube will lead to severe stutters, not what i'd want for a new build. If OP is willing to go with a 9600k, then might as well go with zen+ and save some money.

 

It tied in 0.1% lows: 61 vs 61. In 1% lows, yes the 9600K did 9 FPS worse: 72 FPS for the 9600K and 81 FPS for the 9700K. But it still performed second best in that regard, functionally tied with the 2700x for 1% lows  It's also WAY cheaper than the 9700K. It's by no means a bad experience or a bottleneck. The word bottleneck should only be used to describe a situation in which one part limits another part by a factor of 20% or more. 

 

As for watching a video, I just tried this on my 9400F rig and the lows for me in a fight went from a 1% low of 92 to a 1% low of 90. Averages went from 118 to 115. So no, not a huge difference. But also, why would you watch a video while gaming? 

 

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14 hours ago, brob said:

What case do you have?

What psu?

Is the gift card specific to a particular merchant? If so, which one?

Is the $1,200 USD? Is it for all the parts you do not already have? 

Must peripherals be included in the budget amount?

Dark base 700

rm850x

its can be used anywhere

usd all parts I don’t have

no peripherals needed

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7 hours ago, jerubedo said:

It tied in 0.1% lows: 61 vs 61. In 1% lows, yes the 9600K did 9 FPS worse: 72 FPS for the 9600K and 81 FPS for the 9700K. But it still performed second best in that regard, functionally tied with the 2700x for 1% lows  It's also WAY cheaper than the 9700K. It's by no means a bad experience or a bottleneck. The word bottleneck should only be used to describe a situation in which one part limits another part by a factor of 20% or more. 

 

As for watching a video, I just tried this on my 9400F rig and the lows for me in a fight went from a 1% low of 92 to a 1% low of 90. Averages went from 118 to 115. So no, not a huge difference. But also, why would you watch a video while gaming? 

 

I’m more focused on premiere pro performance... seem that this has changed to a gaming discussion, honestly if the i5 has better performance than say a 7700k I’d do it but I sadly don’t think so. Tell me if I’m wrong please because believe me a 250 use cpu over a 400-500 usd cpu Is very good

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12 minutes ago, Puffing said:

I’m more focused on premiere pro performance... seem that this has changed to a gaming discussion, honestly if the i5 has better performance than say a 7700k I’d do it but I sadly don’t think so. Tell me if I’m wrong please because believe me a 250 use cpu over a 400-500 usd cpu Is very good

For Premiere pro the 9600K beats the 7700K overall. Here's the data on the 7700K vs the 8600k. Note that the 9600K is slightly faster at stock and can generally OC about 100MHz higher than the 8600K:

 

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