Low FPS CS GO Nvidia RTX 2070 Windforce

[Razvan112]

Hello,

I have quite a big issue and perhaps you could help me a bit. I recently bought a new Nvidia RTX 2070 Windforce to replace my previous GTX 970.

After the windows installation and all the tests those guys from the computer store have done, i installed the csgo and guess what, i have lower fps than i used to have with my GTX! I've done everything and i optimized win 10 and after all the efforts still the same situation. I'm currently somewhere between 175 - 250 fps in csgo and before i used to have 300 without a drop (i had fps_max 300 at that time). 

 

I've read about a possible bottleneck and i have no clue what's that or what on earth can cause that effect. Even though everyone assured me that the parts are compatible and everything should be fine, i still can't figure it out. I've done a benchmark a few minutes ago and here you will have the result 

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/17065061

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 108%, Desk 91%, Work 60%
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K - 82.9%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 127.5%
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO M.2 500GB - 133.9%
SSD: WD Green 240GB (2018) - 57.7%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB - 120.9%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 2133 C10 2x8GB - 54.2%
MBD: Asus Z97-PRO GAMER

 

Can anyone help with some tips to fix this stupid issue ? Keep in mind that the GameDVR is off from registry and i even deleted the xbox from my computer 

 

Thanks a lot and i really appreciate any advice you have. 

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

cpu bottleneck i have 4690k too and on cpu games get more fps with a 970 than with a 2070

[Stormseeker9]

22 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

cpu bottleneck i have 4690k too and on cpu games get more fps with a 970 than with a 2070

I would have to agree with the 4690k being a bottleneck in your system @Razvan112

 

are your settings the same as before, didn’t change anything? 

[Razvan112]

14 hours ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I would have to agree with the 4690k being a bottleneck in your system @Razvan112

 

are your settings the same as before, didn’t change anything? 

Hey, yes, everything is the same from video settings, nvidia settings and the only exception is windows 10. i used to have win 7 with gtx 970 but with the new card, they installed win 10 on the system. Although i optimized the windows, game and pretty much everything i could, i still cant replicate the same performance i had. Will you guys have any suggestions for a new cpu which will work properly with the current setup? 

[Ardu]

1 hour ago, Razvan112 said:

Hey, yes, everything is the same from video settings, nvidia settings and the only exception is windows 10. i used to have win 7 with gtx 970 but with the new card, they installed win 10 on the system. Although i optimized the windows, game and pretty much everything i could, i still cant replicate the same performance i had. Will you guys have any suggestions for a new cpu which will work properly with the current setup? 

What would your budget be?

[Razvan112]

2 hours ago, Ardu said:

What would your budget be?

I don't really have a budget and i was planning anyway to upgrade the motherboard, ram and cpu. I said i could start with the GPU but it seems that won't work that well. 

My objective is not to end up buying again some parts and not be able to use them at a maximum performance level. 

[Razvan112]

Just a small update since i just finished a benchmark test on 3dmark https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36267247?

 

anyone else will have some suggestions or pointers if this test will actually be within the limits or i should do something else ?

[Turtle Rig]

33 minutes ago, Razvan112 said:

Just a small update since i just finished a benchmark test on 3dmark https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36267247?

 

anyone else will have some suggestions or pointers if this test will actually be within the limits or i should do something else ?

Im surprised no one has mention that you do a DDU "Display Driver Uninstaller" in safe mode then do a clean and restart.  Back into normal mode now install latest nVidia drivers and report back to us.  Also a 2070 is being held back by your CPU.  Also if the CPU is not overclocked you can forget about it;  big time bottleneck your CPU is creating.  gl

[SpookyCitrus]

@Razvan112 We sort of need a budget and country before we start recommending CPU's and upgrades. If not, everyone will recommend something different and either super cheap or way to expensive, if you give us a general budget or what you feel comfortable spending we can keep it in that price range.

[Razvan112]

11 hours ago, Turtle Rig said:

Im surprised no one has mention that you do a DDU "Display Driver Uninstaller" in safe mode then do a clean and restart.  Back into normal mode now install latest nVidia drivers and report back to us.  Also a 2070 is being held back by your CPU.  Also if the CPU is not overclocked you can forget about it;  big time bottleneck your CPU is creating.  gl

Hello, i will do that tonight and see how it goes from there. I haven't done that since i was under the impression that if they just formatted everything and installed new windows, latest drivers and all, won't require to do it again. I wi test it and send you the results. 

[Razvan112]

11 hours ago, SpookyCitrus said:

@Razvan112 We sort of need a budget and country before we start recommending CPU's and upgrades. If not, everyone will recommend something different and either super cheap or way to expensive, if you give us a general budget or what you feel comfortable spending we can keep it in that price range.

Hi Spooky, I live in dubai and I'm not sure if all the parts will be available since I've noticed that many of the products available in US or EU and not that easy to find here. I normally use gear-up.me to buy the parts from and they will install it for me. In regards to the budget, perhaps a $1,000 would be the right figure I'm thinking to invest. Of course, with the disclaimer that if i will get a better CPU, i won't mess up something else and i will have to start from the beginning. If i will upgrade my cpu, will the motherboard have to be replaced as well? I know ddr3 is not really a thing now days therefore, i should look at that as well in the recent future. 

 

Also, what are the possibilities of overcloacking my current CPU, will that solve anything? (i don't know how or if is possible to do that but i will ask someone to do it for me if i have to) 

 

Thanks a lot guys for your support 

[SpookyCitrus]

9 hours ago, Razvan112 said:

Hi Spooky, I live in dubai and I'm not sure if all the parts will be available since I've noticed that many of the products available in US or EU and not that easy to find here. I normally use gear-up.me to buy the parts from and they will install it for me. In regards to the budget, perhaps a $1,000 would be the right figure I'm thinking to invest. Of course, with the disclaimer that if i will get a better CPU, i won't mess up something else and i will have to start from the beginning. If i will upgrade my cpu, will the motherboard have to be replaced as well? I know ddr3 is not really a thing now days therefore, i should look at that as well in the recent future. 

 

Also, what are the possibilities of overcloacking my current CPU, will that solve anything? (i don't know how or if is possible to do that but i will ask someone to do it for me if i have to) 

 

Thanks a lot guys for your support 

It's a pretty hefty bottleneck, I don't think overclocking it will help too much. Maybe a little bit but not as much as you might think. You bought a really decent GPU and put it into an aging system, the reason it's worse than your 970 is that your 970 was a better pairing with your i5, the 2070 is way more powerful and is trying to do all the work as quickly as possible but your cpu is struggling to keep up. In-game your load level is probably a maxed out CPU and your GPU hanging around 30% maybe less. Your best bet is to upgrade to a newer platform either ryzen or intel with a $1000 budget depending on prices and what's available in Dubai. I'll check it out. Wait so your budget is $1000 AED? Or $1000 USD?

[Razvan112]

26 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

It's a pretty hefty bottleneck, I don't think overclocking it will help too much. Maybe a little bit but not as much as you might think. You bought a really decent GPU and put it into an aging system, the reason it's worse than your 970 is that your 970 was a better pairing with your i5, the 2070 is way more powerful and is trying to do all the work as quickly as possible but your cpu is struggling to keep up. In-game your load level is probably a maxed out CPU and your GPU hanging around 30% maybe less. Your best bet is to upgrade to a newer platform either ryzen or intel with a $1000 budget depending on prices and what's available in Dubai. I'll check it out. Wait so your budget is $1000 AED? Or $1000 USD?

No, my budget is $1,000 which is something like 3,670aed. I took a few pictures now since i installed msi afterburner and in csgo where the main issue is, i have to say that is quite hard to keep up with the gpu. 

 

I'm surprised how come it has such a bad performance but you made it quite clear. Any recommendations on the cpu side and perhaps should i change the mobo as well along with the rams? 

[SpookyCitrus]

@Razvan112 Yes if you get a new CPU you will have to upgrade your Motherboard and Ram as well. The 2070 is a pretty powerful card and you'll have to get a decent CPU to pair with it, the cheaper options that will be good with it are the Ryzen 5 2600x or the i5-9600k, I can put together some builds for you using the pricing from gear-up.me. 

[Razvan112]

Just now, SpookyCitrus said:

@Razvan112 Yes if you get a new CPU you will have to upgrade your Motherboard and Ram as well. The 2070 is a pretty powerful card and you'll have to get a decent CPU to pair with it, the cheaper options that will be good with it are the Ryzen 5 2600x or the i5-9600k, I can put together some builds for you using the pricing from gear-up.me. 

that will be amazing if you dont mind. i will have to order and do everything through them and I've been using those guys when i bought the pc 5-6 years ago. it lasted for a while i have to say. I'm attaching a picture for apex as well but is quite obvious that is maxed out

[SpookyCitrus]

@Razvan112 Yeah it's better than on CS:GO in more graphically demanding games it will utilize the GPU more but the CPU will still have a hard time. I'm working on the parts rn give me like 10 minutes and I'll have both build links.

[Turtle Rig]

32 minutes ago, Razvan112 said:

that will be amazing if you dont mind. i will have to order and do everything through them and I've been using those guys when i bought the pc 5-6 years ago. it lasted for a while i have to say. I'm attaching a picture for apex as well but is quite obvious that is maxed out

Dude, your CPU and GPU temps are impressive.  Did you try the DDU ?  Also its the same as if you format install windows fresh and the drivers.  I highly recommend you do it and I didn't see reading the posts that you did it or not.

[SpookyCitrus]

@Razvan112 I put both upgrades together on PCpartpicker, but set the prices to what they are on gear-up.me I also included sales tax on the website so it should be the exact price without shipping. The builds don't include cases or storage drives as the ones you have should work with these components, the only thing that may not work with your case is the cooler as it is a beefy boi, also a new PSU is included as replacing the PSU when you get a newer more high power system especially one that is several years old is always a good idea. If you could list what case and CPU cooler you have just to make sure these parts are compatible that would be awesome.

 

Here is the i5-9600k upgrade, depending on what cooler you already have you might be able to reuse it if necessary. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$343.35
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$95.55
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$257.25
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$103.95
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.35
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$954.45
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 13:16 EDT-0400

 

Here is the Ryzen 5 2600X upgrade, the 2600x does come with a wraith cooler in the box that isn't too bad and won't be a problem unless you want to overclock so you don't have to get the Dark Rock Pro 4 unless you want better thermals, plus the cooler you already have may be compatible depending on what kind it is.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$270.90
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$95.55
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	$123.90
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$168.00
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.35
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$812.70
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 13:41 EDT-0400

 

[Razvan112]

46 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Dude, your CPU and GPU temps are impressive.  Did you try the DDU ?  Also its the same as if you format install windows fresh and the drivers.  I highly recommend you do it and I didn't see reading the posts that you did it or not.

hey, yes, i've done that and it's the same thing. Nothing improved and it seems that i cant find a way to do that. i checked in csgo where is the main issue and if you saw in the pictures, it almost doesnt use the gpu at all. of course, is a cpu based game but i was curios if the gpu is the one used by the game and it seems that it is 

 

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[Razvan112]

12 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

@Razvan112 I put both upgrades together on PCpartpicker, but set the prices to what they are on gear-up.me I also included sales tax on the website so it should be the exact price without shipping. The builds don't include cases or storage drives as the ones you have should work with these components, the only thing that may not work with your case is the cooler as it is a beefy boi, also a new PSU is included as replacing the PSU when you get a newer more high power system especially one that is several years old is always a good idea. If you could list what case and CPU cooler you have just to make sure these parts are compatible that would be awesome.

 

Here is the i5-9600k upgrade, depending on what cooler you already have you might be able to reuse it if necessary. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$343.35
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$95.55
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$257.25
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$103.95
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.35
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$954.45
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 13:16 EDT-0400

 

Here is the Ryzen 5 2600X upgrade, the 2600x does come with a wraith cooler in the box that isn't too bad and won't be a problem unless you want to overclock so you don't have to get the Dark Rock Pro 4 unless you want better thermals, plus the cooler you already have may be compatible depending on what kind it is.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$270.90
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$95.55
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	$123.90
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$168.00
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.35
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$812.70
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 13:41 EDT-0400

 

Hey, i just found the original bill i have with all the previous components and the only upgrade i've done is the ssd's and GPU 

 

CPU Intel Core i5-4690k BOX 3.5ghz LGA1150 VGA

ASUS Z97-PRO Gamer

Be quiet! Power supply POWER Zone 750w 80PLUS Bronze, for gamers

DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Black 16GB 2133MHz CL10

ASUS DRW-24f1st black bulk

Corsair computer case Obsidian Series 450D high airflow mid-tower

 

 

[Princess Luna]

Mate... this is CS:GO... it runs on a nearly 20 years old Engine... things don't always work specially with the latest GPU Architectures.

[SpookyCitrus]

1 minute ago, Razvan112 said:

Hey, i just found the original bill i have with all the previous components and the only upgrade i've done is the ssd's and GPU 

 

CPU Intel Core i5-4690k BOX 3.5ghz LGA1150 VGA

ASUS Z97-PRO Gamer

Be quiet! Power supply POWER Zone 750w 80PLUS Bronze, for gamers

DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Black 16GB 2133MHz CL10

ASUS DRW-24f1st black bulk

Corsair computer case Obsidian Series 450D high airflow mid-tower

 

 

Yeah all the parts will work with that case, your old power supply will work as well but I would recommend replacing it, better to be safe than sorry. Also if you do decide to upgrade you can sell your old CPU, Ram, and Motherboard in a bundle and make some money back. 

[Razvan112]

21 hours ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Yeah all the parts will work with that case, your old power supply will work as well but I would recommend replacing it, better to be safe than sorry. Also if you do decide to upgrade you can sell your old CPU, Ram, and Motherboard in a bundle and make some money back. 

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate your support and the fact that you took time to review them on gear-up! I will do another test for dota since i understood that is also cpu game and see if there is indeed a problem with that or is solely to csgo. Thanks a lot all of you and if you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know 

 

[Stormseeker9]

On 5/21/2019 at 9:07 PM, Turtle Rig said:

Im surprised no one has mention that you do a DDU "Display Driver Uninstaller" in safe mode then do a clean and restart.  Back into normal mode now install latest nVidia drivers and report back to us.  Also a 2070 is being held back by your CPU.  Also if the CPU is not overclocked you can forget about it;  big time bottleneck your CPU is creating.  gl

No need for DDU here, as the CPU is the bottleneck here

[SpookyCitrus]

13 minutes ago, Razvan112 said:

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate your support and the fact that you took time to review them on gear-up! I will do another test for dota since i understood that is also cpu game and see if there is indeed a problem with that or is solely to csgo. Thanks a lot all of you and if you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know 

 

No problem good luck!