Planning My First Build

[icekiller158]

I'm planning on my first build and this is what i have for my list. It is mainly going to be used for gaming.

 

I also want to overclock my GPU and RAM and keep CPU at stock settings.

If I were to build this over the course of three months or so, which parts can I safely buy first?
 

Feedback is much appreciated.

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($66.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1057.91USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 16:44 EDT-0400

[OmicronEta]

There really isn't any reason to overclock the ram in your computer unless its a lower clock. Everything here seems fine. Maybe go for a Mushkin pilot or a WD Blue SN500. They are the same price but are NVME drives

Edited May 16, 2019 by OmicronEta
Addition

[Slayer3032]

Yeah everything looks fine. I'd step up to an nvme m.2 over the sata ssd though.

 

Another idea is to replace the 2tb disk drive with a 1tb Intel 660p as well, they're $85 on Amazon right now.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCL6BR4/

 

 

[GoldenLag]

21 minutes ago, icekiller158 said:

If I were to build this over the course of three months or so, which parts can I safely buy first?

None, just save up an buy when you have the cash on hand. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.95 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($45.43 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 CM 600 W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1006.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 17:29 EDT-0400

 

Also better build in every way for less.

[ch3w2oy]

People choose NVMe, everyone recommends SATA.. People choose SATA and everyone starts recommending NVMe lol..

 

Great build.. I would go Vega 64 Nitro+, though.. You can OC the 2600 to reach 2600X performance too, I had a 2600X before my 2600 and trust me, you wont notice a thing..

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$149.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$115.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	$399.99 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$67.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1090.60
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$1050.60
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 17:32 EDT-0400

 

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, Slayer3032 said:

Yeah everything looks fine. I'd step up to an nvme m.2 over the sata ssd though.

You dont gain anything without spending A LOT on a cached NVMe drive. The 660p and P1 are both worse than the mx500.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

People choose NVMe, everyone recommends SATA.. People choose SATA and everyone starts recommending NVMe lol..

Those in the know, know that unless you are doing a proffesional workload and is ready to spend the extra on a cached NVMe drive. The difference is nowhere to be seen

 

Cached Sata is better than QLC NVMe

[ch3w2oy]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Those in the know, know that unless you are doing a proffesional workload and is ready to spend the extra on a cached NVMe drive. The difference is nowhere to be seen

 

Cached Sata is better than QLC NVMeMy Activity Streams

I agree.. The P1 performs similarly to the MX500 (some cases each outperform the other), but I would still take the P1 over the MX500.. That said, I personally wouldn't get either as my daily driver.. I would spend another ~$10 and get the SX8200 512GB, which is actually what I should have put on there..

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

I agree.. The P1 performs similarly to the MX500 (some cases each outperform the other), but I would still take the P1 over the MX500.. That said, I personally wouldn't get either as my daily driver.. I would spend another ~$10 and get the SX8200 512GB, which is actually what I should have put on there..

You know the P1 get significantly slower the more stuff you put in it right?

 

Like that is the major drawback of the P1 and 660p. 

 

Why not get something that is actually worth it and not some mediocre gimmick outside of professional workloads?

 

Edit: my english is bad

[Slayer3032]

21 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You dont gain anything without spending A LOT on a cached NVMe drive. The 660p and P1 are both worse than the mx500.

I wasn't recommending the 660p over the MX500, I was recommending it specifically over the spinning disks for higher capacity storage.

 

As far as proper nvme recommendations, I'd personally scoop a used PM981(OEM 970 Evo) off ebay for $69, SX8200 or any other drive with a dram cache.

[ch3w2oy]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

You know the P1 get significantly slower the more stuff you out in it right?

 

Like that is the major drawback of the P1 and 660p. 

 

Why not get something that is actually not worth it and not some mediocre gimmick outside of professional workloads?

I thought everything gets slower?

 

So I change my stance on the P1..

 

I'm using an SX8200 Pro 1TB in my rig (I wouldn't buy a budget NVMe).. When the P1 was on sale there was quite a  few (reputable) members recommending it over SATA drives so I looked it up quick and didn't think much of it.. I didn't look much further than one or two reviews.. And I saw the few instances where it was slower than the MX500 but I like to jump to conclusions 

 

Tom's Hardware..

Quote

Sure, it is faster than a SATA SSD most of the time and is significantly better than any HDD, but competition is brutal in the SSD market.

 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Slayer3032 said:

As far as proper nvme recommendations, I'd personally scoop a PM981(OEM 970 Evo) off ebay for $69, SX8200 or any other drive with a dram cache.

That isbt a terrible idea. Though NVMe sadly isnt as marketing wants it to be.

1 minute ago, Slayer3032 said:

wasn't recommending the 660p over the MX500, I was recommending it specifically over the spinning disks for higher capacity storage.

If its just a gamedrive one can also just get uncached Sata for more storage at the same price. 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

thought everything gets slower

P1 and 660p more than any other cached drive due to how they handle storage. They have a small partition of SLC storage acting as cache. While that is all fine and dandy, the moment you start filling the drive, it runs out of space to cache and performance plumets. 

3 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

So I change my stance on the P1..

 

I'm using an SX8200 Pro 1TB in my rig (I wouldn't buy a budget NVMe).. When the P1 was on sale there was quite a  few (reputable) members recommending it over SATA drives so I looked it up quick and didn't think much of it.. I didn't look much further than one or two reviews.. And I saw the few instances where it was slower than the MX500 but I like to jump to conclusions 

Its not terrible. Just not as nice as the 2,5 inch version of the mx500. I believe the m.2 variant of that has a similar fate due to how it caches

[jerubedo]

56 minutes ago, icekiller158 said:

I'm planning on my first build and this is what i have for my list. It is mainly going to be used for gaming.

 

I also want to overclock my GPU and RAM and keep CPU at stock settings.

If I were to build this over the course of three months or so, which parts can I safely buy first?
 

Feedback is much appreciated.

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($66.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1057.91USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 16:44 EDT-0400

Especially if you're keeping the CPU at stock, the 9400F is going to do markedly better in gaming loads:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$144.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$109.99 @ Amazon
Memory	GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$69.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$62.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$57.95 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB TUF OC Video Card	$344.99 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case	$71.35 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$53.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$946.13
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$916.13
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 18:01 EDT-0400

 

[ch3w2oy]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

 

Makes sense.. I'll dig a little deeper next time  

 

3 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Especially if you're keeping the CPU at stock, the 9400F is going to do marginally better in gaming loads:

Fixed. Please stop recommending the 9400F. KthxBye.

 

 

 

 

[jerubedo]

5 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Fixed. Please stop recommending the 9400F. KthxBye.

Stop recommending the better performing and lower cost chip for the workload? No.

 

It's also more than marginal at stock. On an 18 game average it's 7% better. And on some games like below it's 16% better! All for 11% less in cost!

 

 

 

[melete]

1 hour ago, icekiller158 said:

I'm planning on my first build and this is what i have for my list. It is mainly going to be used for gaming.

 

I also want to overclock my GPU and RAM and keep CPU at stock settings.

If I were to build this over the course of three months or so, which parts can I safely buy first?

If you're building over the course of the next three months, your best bet is to save up all your money and go for Ryzen 3000 (announced in two weeks at Computex) and possibly AMD Navi (likely announced in four weeks at E3). These new product launches will either provide better performance for you, or potentially lower the prices on some older CPUs and GPUs. We have a pretty good idea that Ryzen 3000 will be a large improvement over Ryzen 2000, although we know much less about Navi so far.

 

I'd generally recommend buying everything at once so all your parts have an RMA window starting at the same time, should you need to return/warranty anything, but there are definitely some flash deals from time to time that may be worth taking advantage of.

[ch3w2oy]

6 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Stop recommending the better performing and lower cost chip for the workload? No.

 

It's also more than marginal at stock. On an 18 game average it's 7% better. And on some games like below it's 16% better! All for 11% less in cost!

Come onnnnn, I'm just giving you a hard time lol.

[jerubedo]

1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

Come onnnnn, I'm just giving you a hard time lol.

   

[icekiller158]

Ideally yes, I want to buy everything at once. But what parts can I buy safely if there is a flash sale for any of them?

 

On 5/16/2019 at 5:30 PM, GoldenLag said:

Storage: Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.95 @ Amazon) 

 

On 5/16/2019 at 6:01 PM, jerubedo said:

 

Storage	Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$57.95 @ Amazon

 

Is that one better than Barracuda?

[GoldenLag]

6 hours ago, icekiller158 said:

Ideally yes, I want to buy everything at once. But what parts can I buy safely if there is a flash sale for any of them?

 

 

Is that one better than Barracuda?

Same quality, just cheaper and more storage. 

 

 

If there is a sale on SSDs perhaps. But waiting untill youve got all the cash is most of the time the better choice. 

[icekiller158]

I did a little adjustment of my list, how does this look?

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($62.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.95 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1039.76USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-19 16:42 EDT-0400
 

 

Here is an alternate list I may consider.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.95 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1034.76USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-19 16:47 EDT-0400

[icekiller158]

I am kind of leaning on this build, what do you guys think?

 

I'm leaning on this build because I can get the CPU, mobo and both storage at a Micro Center near me. Which is half of my build and shave off $42 from the prices on parts list.

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.94 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1037.75USD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-22 20:43 EDT-0400

[seagate_surfer]

I did one comment earlier about the Seagate BarraCuda and the Seagate Constellation:

1 hour ago, seagate_surfer said:

The Seagate constellation is one of the cheapest options available in the market, I am not saying it is a defective or bad unit, I am just saying that the option is available to the market and you could save around 10 to 20 dollars yet when buying one of those depending on the capacity you choose and comparing it with the Seagate BarraCuda...