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Should I sell Ryzen and get Intel?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I just build a new pc about a month ago with ryzen 2600 . At that time I didn't knew much about motherboards so I messed up and picked x470 Ultra Gaming from gigabyte because I thought that it was x470 so it would be far superior then any b450 but I was wrong because after I bought I found out that there are a lot of bad reviews about it dying and doing weird stuff etc. The thing is I am afraid now that my board might die because of all the people who are giving review about it. I built this PC after working soo hard and it's my first high end build. long story short, I can sell the mobo and processor for about almost the same price because ryzen boards are short in my country so they are much expensive now then as compared to they were a month ago.(probably will lose about 20-40$). The thing is should I do it? I am thinking about selling it and switching to intel 9400f or 9600k. Should I do it? And I don't know if my mobo will be able to handle the 3000 series processors. I am really confused rn. 

PS: There is no RMA here so if the board dies it dies.

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I mean, does it work?

 

Unless you're having problems, it should be fine....


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5 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

I mean, does it work?

 

Unless you're having problems, it should be fine....

Yes it's working so far without any issue. But haven't Oced the processor yet + I am not sure if next gen 8/16t processors will be able to run on it.

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2 minutes ago, Toheed said:

Yes it's working so far without any issue. But haven't Oced the processor yet + I am not sure if next gen 8/16t processors will be able to run on it.

Is this it?

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING-rev-10#kf

 

According to the mobo tier list, it is a high end board, unless i'm reading it wrong.


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Wife's System: Ryzen 5 1600 3.8ghz // Wraith Spire // Gigabyte AX-370-Gaming // 16GB T-Force DDR4 2667 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB // Corsair Obsidian 750D // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital Blue // Displays: Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602

 

Son's System: i3-8350k 4.8ghz @ 1.35v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS Radeon RX 570 4GB // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i5-4570 // ASUS H81I-Plus // 8GB Corsair DDR3 XMS2 1333 // Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Mini // Cooler Master Elite 130 // Corsair CX600M // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Western Digital Blue // Display: AOC 20" // HP Business Keyboard // HP Business Mouse

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Odds are it will continue to be fine if it is fine now, most computer parts I've had were either DOA or worked for years. 


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Motherboard won't just go on and die because someone left bad review. 

It should be fine, it will support Zen 2 CPUs


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3 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Is this it?

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING-rev-10#kf

 

According to the mobo tier list, it is a high end board, unless i'm reading it wrong.

I don't think they are,  I believe it goes Ultra then aorus 3, 5, 7 with 7 being the top tier for gigabyte. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

Odds are it will continue to be fine if it is fine now, most computer parts I've had were either DOA or worked for years. 

I hope so :(

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13 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

Motherboard won't just go on and die because someone left bad review. 

It should be fine, it will support Zen 2 CPUs

Yeah I would be only going for the 3600 that would be more then enough for me. Fingers crossed.

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What is done, is done now, hope for the best in the future.

Personally i would go for Intel, how to say it, they are more rock solid!


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31 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Personally i would go for Intel, how to say it, they are more rock solid!

Yeah until another wave of security exploits....Oh wait its happened again


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1 hour ago, BigRom said:

Yeah until another wave of security exploits....Oh wait its happened again

That was marketing BS!!!


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As for the Title:
Should I replace a reasonable secure processor with one where Securuty holes are popping up every other month??

 

To be rather blunt. All the Meltdown and Spectre shit isn't over. Its still steaming!!

You did the right thing...

And no, don't switch. Especially not 11 days before AMD gets on stage on Computex...

1 hour ago, Toheed said:

Yes it's working so far without any issue. But haven't Oced the processor yet + I am not sure if next gen 8/16t processors will be able to run on it.

OC isn't the strong point of Ryzen, sadly. So that's something you can't really do. What you need to do is Edit the P-States. And I don't know if your Board supports it.

 

As for Ryzen 3000 Support: Gigabyte hasn't yet released the Ryzen 3000 SUpport List.

MSI was the first because someone stirred some shit and there was some kind of miscommunication, so MSI released a statement that says that they will be compatible with Ryzen 3000.

ASUS Followed, the last one was Biostar.

 

Gigabyte might release somthing like that or just drop the BIOS Support...

 


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51 minutes ago, Constantin said:

What is done, is done now, hope for the best in the future.

Personally i would go for Intel, how to say it, they are more rock solid!

Do you know what you're talking about? Never mind, don't answer that..


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1 hour ago, ch3w2oy said:

Do you know what you're talking about? Never mind, don't answer that..

Intel is better get over it!


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1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

That was a rhetorical question..

You have a 2600 now?

 

Thought you sold the 9700k for a 2700x????

 

Dang dude you get around the block


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1 hour ago, ch3w2oy said:

That was a rhetorical question..

What do you think is AMD santa claus? and gift cheap cpu's?

In this life you always get what you pay for!


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1 hour ago, Toheed said:

I am thinking about selling it and switching to intel 9400f or 9600k. Should I do it?

No, its a waste of money.

Why do you want Intel so badly?

 

Because some "nice person" told you that Intel is better and/or worse stuff for buying AMD??

 

If that's the case, you should read up on the last Security stuff dropping on Intel, MDS its called and that Google disabled SMT (Hyper Threading) for Chrome OS.

As well as other stuff and drop that on that person. And tell that "at least I don't have to worry about that".

 

And also you should be able to drop in the next generation AMD Chips, while with the Intel LGA1151v2 its unlikely that the next Intel CPU will work in that Socket. So you would sell your stuff, get an Intel, then have to sell the Intel stuff again, when the next best thing is coming.

 

Another thing: AMD will release 7nm CPUs within the next couple of weeks.

Intel has nothing under 14nm in the forseeable future. Rumors are rumoring something about end of 2020, probably more 2021 or 2022 but then go straight to 7nm...

 

 

Buttom Line:
It doesn't look good for Intel long term.

Short term the 9400F isn't much better than your 2600 and you have to actually pay money (or find someone who would exchange it with you). Its just not worth the hassle.

 


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3 minutes ago, Constantin said:

What do you think is AMD santa claus? and gift cheap cpu's?

In this life you always get what you pay for!

That was also a rhetorical statement..


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1 minute ago, Constantin said:

What do you think is AMD santa claus? and gift cheap cpu's?

In this life you always get what you pay for!

What do I think AMD is?

 

AMD is a viable low cost alternative to Intel that offers 80-90% of the performance for 50-60% of the cost.

 

When Zen 2 launches, it may be even better than Intel.

 

I love my 8700k, and won't trade it for any Ryzen chips, but it doesn't make AMD Ryzen bad.


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Wife's System: Ryzen 5 1600 3.8ghz // Wraith Spire // Gigabyte AX-370-Gaming // 16GB T-Force DDR4 2667 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB // Corsair Obsidian 750D // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital Blue // Displays: Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602

 

Son's System: i3-8350k 4.8ghz @ 1.35v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS Radeon RX 570 4GB // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i5-4570 // ASUS H81I-Plus // 8GB Corsair DDR3 XMS2 1333 // Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Mini // Cooler Master Elite 130 // Corsair CX600M // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Western Digital Blue // Display: AOC 20" // HP Business Keyboard // HP Business Mouse

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6 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, its a waste of money.

Why do you want Intel so badly?

 

Because some "nice person" told you that Intel is better and/or worse stuff for buying AMD??

 

If that's the case, you should read up on the last Security stuff dropping on Intel, MDS its called and that Google disabled SMT (Hyper Threading) for Chrome OS.

As well as other stuff and drop that on that person. And tell that "at least I don't have to worry about that".

 

And also you should be able to drop in the next generation AMD Chips, while with the Intel LGA1151v2 its unlikely that the next Intel CPU will work in that Socket. So you would sell your stuff, get an Intel, then have to sell the Intel stuff again, when the next best thing is coming.

 

Another thing: AMD will release 7nm CPUs within the next couple of weeks.

Intel has nothing under 14nm in the forseeable future. Rumors are rumoring something about end of 2020, probably more 2021 or 2022 but then go straight to 7nm...

 

 

Buttom Line:
It doesn't look good for Intel long term.

Short term the 9400F isn't much better than your 2600 and you have to actually pay money (or find someone who would exchange it with you). Its just not worth the hassle.

 

I'd say short term (through 2020-2022), Intel is in a bind. Long term, it will be fine. 


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz delidded @1.355v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 UV/OC 1677core/1050hbm // NZXT S340 White // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/120GB PNY CS900/480GB PNY CS1311/1TB Hitachi Deskstar // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248QG // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard - Logitech G502 

 

Wife's System: Ryzen 5 1600 3.8ghz // Wraith Spire // Gigabyte AX-370-Gaming // 16GB T-Force DDR4 2667 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB // Corsair Obsidian 750D // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital Blue // Displays: Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602

 

Son's System: i3-8350k 4.8ghz @ 1.35v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS Radeon RX 570 4GB // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i5-4570 // ASUS H81I-Plus // 8GB Corsair DDR3 XMS2 1333 // Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Mini // Cooler Master Elite 130 // Corsair CX600M // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Western Digital Blue // Display: AOC 20" // HP Business Keyboard // HP Business Mouse

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1 hour ago, Plutosaurus said:

but it doesn't make AMD Ryzen bad.

It does, when i see all the compatibility issues.

Staring from RAM to ......


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11 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

That was a rhetorical question..

To be fair he didn't specify what Intel were good at

 

Intel is definitely great at taking consumer's money, and lots of money at that, for chips with apparent security vulnerabilities 🤷‍♂️


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