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Supreme Court Allows Anti-Trust Lawsuit Against the App Store

15 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

This might be okay in some countries, but in many places in the US, for example, there is effectively one choice of ISP.

 

Canada has a bit better rules when it comes to forcing the incumbents to allow third parties to resell access, but even then there are limitations, such as the third party companies not having access to the same speeds, etc.

 

I'm not sure why there is contention over a comparitive/analogous  point... ?

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11 hours ago, mr moose said:

I'm Australian, I don't care about California or any other specific part of the US,  When someone says that judge A had the deciding vote and the reality is they were always going  to vote for, then no, that judge did not have the deciding vote.  The deciding vote has to have been the last voter to tip the result.   

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and unless you have some sort of objective high ground then calling others opinions as salty is somewhat a salty post.

As I explained, it is common in the US to refer to the majority presenter solely when citing the majority in a court case. Kavanaugh delivered the majority opinion, thus you would refer to him. This is why Dr. Macintosh specifically called out Kavanaugh. He is a controversial man, yes, but is a judge first and foremost.

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1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

As I explained, it is common in the US to refer to the majority presenter solely when citing the majority in a court case. Kavanaugh delivered the majority opinion, thus you would refer to him. This is why Dr. Macintosh specifically called out Kavanaugh. He is a controversial man, yes, but is a judge first and foremost.

Indeed - procedure and tradition. Though those who disagree politically with the OP will often use that as a "Gotcha!" to try and show bias. Though the OP did show some bias (quotation marks, for example), some bias is human nature. As long as he tried to minimize his bias, that's the important factor.

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3 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

As I explained, it is common in the US to refer to the majority presenter solely when citing the majority in a court case. Kavanaugh delivered the majority opinion, thus you would refer to him. This is why Dr. Macintosh specifically called out Kavanaugh. He is a controversial man, yes, but is a judge first and foremost.

Mentioning the majority presenter is fine, in fact leading with the majority presenter is more important in many ways because we need too know where the case is coming from.  My issue was naming him as the deciding vote.  He was always going to vote in favor,  so the deciding vote had to have been one of the other four judges.   The issue is presentation of the facts that rely what is happening without heavily insinuating the outcome was due to something more biased.

 

For all we know the other judges are all just as biased in this and have taken their sides ignoring due process.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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@DrMacintosh @SenpaiKaplan

I think I may have fatally misinterpreted something...

Did the supreme Court decide that the supreme Court would hear the case, or did the supreme Court decide that lower courts would have to hear the case as opposed to it being blocked?

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12 hours ago, Crossbred said:

@DrMacintosh @SenpaiKaplan

I think I may have fatally misinterpreted something...

Did the supreme Court decide that the supreme Court would hear the case, or did the supreme Court decide that lower courts would have to hear the case as opposed to it being blocked?

I don't think the Supreme court can force a lower court to hear a case. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only thing they can do is either hear the case themselves, or decline to intervene at all.

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20 hours ago, Crossbred said:

@DrMacintosh @SenpaiKaplan

I think I may have fatally misinterpreted something...

Did the supreme Court decide that the supreme Court would hear the case, or did the supreme Court decide that lower courts would have to hear the case as opposed to it being blocked?

The supreme court decided that they would hear it. As Dalek said, the supreme court cannot order a lower court to hear a case.

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If Apple were to lose this, their devices would be better, period. That's about 50% of the reason I switched to Android. Also, as someone who disliked the Wii until I home brewed it and it ended up becoming my favorite console of all time because of it, I'm definitely for freedom in that case.

 

At the same time, I hate to see a company FORCED to do something. It's hard to feel sorry for Apple though, and it's pretty shitty how they lock their devices up. Even littler stuff, like not being able to actually manage files, it's complete bullshit.

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