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Is this NAS pretty okay?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So I've reparted the nas I was planning to make and I think Ive done everything correctly.. are there any red flags Im missing?

CPU: Xeon X3430

Cooler: Stock unless it gets loud

RAM: 16Gb ECC @1333mhz (<-chose 1333 because the supported memory page only went up to 1333)

Storage: 4x 2Tb HDD running in raid 10 (via freenas)

PSU: Corsair CX450


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Freenas runs great on a Dual Core processor, 8GB Ram is the minimum so 16 is heaps!

 

Plenty of great resources on YouTube on setting up permissions ect

 

Boot drive missing however

 

A USB Runs perfectly fine and can be mirrored for backup if failure.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, K3rupt said:

Freenas runs great on a Dual Core processor, 8GB Ram is the minimum so 16 is heaps!

 

Plenty of great resources on YouTube on setting up permissions ect

 

Boot drive missing however

 

A USB Runs perfectly fine and can be mirrored for backup if failure.

The mobo,  cpu, and cooler are all in one thing so I figured the extra headroom wouldnt hurt any. Complete forgot about the boot drive, thanks!

Edit: Bit of an aside, do you think I should get a UPS? I'm feelin like thatd be useful...


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4 minutes ago, Sushimus said:

CPU: Xeon X3430

What motherboard? Also, I'd go up at least one generation (to Sandy Bridge), just because they're that much better (and I suspect, not that much more expensive, if at all).

 

9 minutes ago, Sushimus said:

Storage: 4x 2Tb HDD running in raid 10 (via freenas)

The only thing I would change is to run the drives in either RAID-Z1 or RAID-Z2.

 

Either you get better storage efficiency with one drive failure (Z1), or the same efficiency as RAID-10 but you can have any two drives fail (instead of one per vdev) (Z2). I have four 10TB drives in RAID-Z2 right now, and can pretty easily hit >400MBps write.

 

Also, buy a cheap SSD for booting; I've had a horrible time with keeping FreeNAS stable when booting from flash drives (even when mirrored).


Main System (Byarlant): Ryzen 5 1600X | Asus B350-F Strix | Corsair H80i V2 | 16GB G.Skill DDR4 3200MHz CAS-14 | Reference Nvidia GTX 770 2GB | Samsung 960 PRO 512GB/Samsung 970 EVO 500GB/HGST 7200RPM 1TB | Corsair CX650M | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | Anidees AI-07BW Case | Dell U3415W Monitor | Microsoft Modern Keyboard

 

FreeNAS Server (Veda): Core i3-4170 | Supermicro X10SLL-F | Corsair H60 | 32GB Micron DDR3L ECC 1600MHz | 4x 10TB WD Whites/1x Samsung PM961 128GB/1x Kingston SSD 16GB | Corsair CX430M | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | LSI 9207-8i LBA | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives)

 

Media Center (Jesta): Core i7-2600 | Asus H77M-PRO | Stock Cooler | 8GB No-name DDR3 | EVGA GTX 750Ti SC | Sandisk UltraII SSD 64GB/Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | Corsair CX450M | Hauppauge ImpactVCB-PCIe | Asus Xonar Sound | LG UH12NS30 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case

 

Laptop (Rozen-Zulu): Sony VAIO VPCF13WFX | Core i7-740QM | 8GB Patriot DDR3 | GT 425M | Kingston 120GB SSD | Blu-ray Drive | (Still my favorite typing keyboard)


Tablet (ReGZ): Asus T102HA | Samsung EVO+ microSD 128GB

 

Testbed/Old Desktop (Kshatriya): Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz | ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M (?) | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | NZXT H230 Case

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

What motherboard? Also, I'd go up at least one generation (to Sandy Bridge), just because they're that much better (and I suspect, not that much more expensive, if at all).

 

The only thing I would change is to run the drives in either RAID-Z1 or RAID-Z2.

 

Either you get better storage efficiency with one drive failure (Z1), or the same efficiency as RAID-10 but you can have any two drives fail (instead of one per vdev) (Z2). I have four 10TB drives in RAID-Z2 right now, and can pretty easily hit >400MBps write.

 

Also, buy a cheap SSD for booting; I've had a horrible time with keeping FreeNAS stable when booting from flash drives (even when mirrored).

Mobo (plez nobody buy it for the trolls):  Boop Im like 90% sure its this one -> semi-confident boop

And I meant Z2 but I just woke up and forgot what the freenas name thing was

Edit: Is the next gen on 1366? Those are alot more expensive


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25 minutes ago, K3rupt said:

Freenas runs great on a Dual Core processor, 8GB Ram is the minimum so 16 is heaps!

 

Plenty of great resources on YouTube on setting up permissions ect

 

Boot drive missing however

 

A USB Runs perfectly fine and can be mirrored for backup if failure.

8GB is NOT the minimum, it was a mistake someone made that was perpetuated by people like yourself. It can run fine on much lower resources, more memory just means more cache IIRC.


Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you, I may not see your post otherwise.

 

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1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

8GB is NOT the minimum, it was a mistake someone made that was perpetuated by people like yourself.

8GB is required, by iXsystems themselves.

 

With ZFS, there's really no reason to recommend less. Although you can pretty safely ignore the "1GB per 1TB storage" recommendation until you have a ton (dozens) of TB of storage, unless you're actively accessing a lot of it from multiple clients.


Main System (Byarlant): Ryzen 5 1600X | Asus B350-F Strix | Corsair H80i V2 | 16GB G.Skill DDR4 3200MHz CAS-14 | Reference Nvidia GTX 770 2GB | Samsung 960 PRO 512GB/Samsung 970 EVO 500GB/HGST 7200RPM 1TB | Corsair CX650M | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | Anidees AI-07BW Case | Dell U3415W Monitor | Microsoft Modern Keyboard

 

FreeNAS Server (Veda): Core i3-4170 | Supermicro X10SLL-F | Corsair H60 | 32GB Micron DDR3L ECC 1600MHz | 4x 10TB WD Whites/1x Samsung PM961 128GB/1x Kingston SSD 16GB | Corsair CX430M | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | LSI 9207-8i LBA | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives)

 

Media Center (Jesta): Core i7-2600 | Asus H77M-PRO | Stock Cooler | 8GB No-name DDR3 | EVGA GTX 750Ti SC | Sandisk UltraII SSD 64GB/Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | Corsair CX450M | Hauppauge ImpactVCB-PCIe | Asus Xonar Sound | LG UH12NS30 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case

 

Laptop (Rozen-Zulu): Sony VAIO VPCF13WFX | Core i7-740QM | 8GB Patriot DDR3 | GT 425M | Kingston 120GB SSD | Blu-ray Drive | (Still my favorite typing keyboard)


Tablet (ReGZ): Asus T102HA | Samsung EVO+ microSD 128GB

 

Testbed/Old Desktop (Kshatriya): Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz | ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M (?) | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | NZXT H230 Case

 

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9 hours ago, paddy-stone said:

8GB is NOT the minimum, it was a mistake someone made that was perpetuated by people like yourself. It can run fine on much lower resources, more memory just means more cache IIRC.

How about you climb down from your big High Horse and do a bit of research.

 

FreeNas utilises 6.2-6.5GB at Idle when copying off the server

 

Freenas themselve has an "ÄBSOLUTE MINIMUM" of 8GB Requirement. Its people like you that ruin these forums with incorrect info. :)

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Under basic file copy from server load:

 

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14 hours ago, K3rupt said:

How about you climb down from your big High Horse and do a bit of research.

 

FreeNas utilises 6.2-6.5GB at Idle when copying off the server

 

Freenas themselve has an "ÄBSOLUTE MINIMUM" of 8GB Requirement. Its people like you that ruin these forums with incorrect info. :)

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Under basic file copy from server load:

 

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LOL, ask around then. And I have researched it with actual info rather than relying on "required". And your pics prove nothing as it's only showing how much is "used", freenas will use as much as you have, as cache IIRC. It's only if you're using certain functions of freenas that it'd "use" (not cache) much more. Again, I'm not an expert, but have seen this repeated throughout various forums that the 8GB is minimum, when it's not at all.

 

[edit[ Just to be perfectly clear, I'm not advocating that people use less RAM, it's cheap and if you have the money then fill your boots... I'm just saying that it's NOT a minimum, it's recommended because of there may be problems with certain aspects if running less than 8GB.

 


Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you, I may not see your post otherwise.

 

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  • AM4 1700 build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/paddy.stone/saved/XyXyXL
  • ASUS x53e  - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD
  • Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer
  •  
  • Displays:-
  • Panasonic 55" 4k TV
  • LG 29" Ultrawide
  •  
  • Storage/NAS/Servers:-
  • Main Server - ASrock AB350M Pro 4 - AMD Athlon 200GE - 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM - 240GB Crucial M500 SSD Boot Drive, running Windows 10, plex server - 4x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf HDDs.
  • Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds
  • HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM
  •  
  • Gaming/Tablets etc:-
  • Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD
  • PS4
  • Nvidia Shield TV
  • Xiaomi/Pocaphone F1 128GB 6GB RAM
  • Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
  • Lenovo k3 note
  • Windows tablet
  •  
  • Unused Hardware currently :-
  •  
  • i7 6700K  b250 mobo - Thermaltake Core V21-  EVGA Supernova G2 650W Gold PSU
  • AMD phenom II 1055t / 8GB RAM / DVD writer
  • Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition x2
  • Zotac GTX 1050 mini
  • Nvidia Shield K1 tablet

 

 

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17 hours ago, K3rupt said:

 

FreeNas utilises 6.2-6.5GB at Idle when copying off the server

That used ram is a read cache. Same with every other modern os. Its nice to have a ram read cache, but not need by the os at all. It may be a bit slower with less ram, but it won't lead to data loss or crashes. THe os its self only needs a gig or less for things like running the web interface, the rest is used as a disk cache.

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