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How good it is to use a pc without nvidia drivers?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I use pc now for Watching movies,anime,anime movies, videos from youtube and that's it.
Should i install nvidia drivers?
i mean what would be difference?

My specs - 
cpu -i5-6500
gpu - asus 2gb-OC 750ti
Hdd - 2tb wd blue
no ssd

 

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The generic drivers are super basic from windows, I couldn't even do multi monitor when I tried using them. Any particular reason you don't want to go to Nvidia's website and just get the latest driver? The file isn't exactly very large.


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11 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The generic drivers are super basic from windows, I couldn't even do multi monitor when I tried using them. Any particular reason you don't want to go to Nvidia's website and just get the latest driver? The file isn't exactly very large.

Most of the time - They are pain in my ass,
I get blue screens of death, most times are bcuz of these drivers , no matter how many times i install those drivers (latest) or other versions they always have some kinda issue no matter how small it is, even after doing DDU.

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11 minutes ago, Erik Sieghart said:

If you're running a graphics card, it's always best to install the drivers for that particular card manufacturer.

Are there any most stable drivers, (if nvidia have created them by mistake)

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8 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

Most of the time - They are pain in my ass,
I get blue screens of death, most times are bcuz of these drivers , no matter how many times i install those drivers (latest) or other versions they always have some kinda issue no matter how small it is, even after doing DDU.

That's not a problem with the drivers, that's a hardware issue.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 threadSeasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Posted · Original PosterOP
13 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

That's not a problem with the drivers, that's a hardware issue.

Then why it never give me blue screen of death ever when there were no nvidia drivers.

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4 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

Then why it never give me blue screen of death ever when there were no nvidia drivers.

because the graphics card isn't being fully utilized, whatever fault that exists is not being brought out.

 

like @Arika S said, different driver versions can help too.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

because the graphics card isn't being fully utilized, whatever fault that exists is not being brought out.

 

like @Arika S said, different driver versions can help too.

So u want to say "install the drivers"?
Yes or no, be clear!! ?

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30 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

Most of the time - They are pain in my ass,
I get blue screens of death, most times are bcuz of these drivers , no matter how many times i install those drivers (latest) or other versions they always have some kinda issue no matter how small it is, even after doing DDU.

there is a good chance you have a bad video card if you get blue screens from the driver.

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If you are receiving BSODs when using your graphics card with drivers installed, and you have tried using DDU to remove the drivers and reinstall new/different version drivers and still have the same issue, it's probably a hardware fault. 750Ti is what, 5 years old? Could just be dying. If there are any overclocks on the card then try removing them, might help with stability.

If you're not going to install the Nvidia drivers for your graphics card, you may as well just remove the graphics card and use the i5 6600 integrated graphics instead.
Hmm. What's better, a graphics card without drivers or integrated graphics? ?


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@Kpp550 if its doing what you want without the drivers, then don't get them

 

If its not doing what you want, then you need to start trying different drivers that are stable with your likely unstable GPU.


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30 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

Most of the time - They are pain in my ass,
I get blue screens of death, most times are bcuz of these drivers , no matter how many times i install those drivers (latest) or other versions they always have some kinda issue no matter how small it is, even after doing DDU.

I had my machine require a reinstall when I installed the nVidia drivers, it was a faulty card.

 

To put it in a simple way, the default Windows drivers will be drawing one pixel at a time using the CPU and not using the GPU as old 2D only graphics cards did. When you install the drivers, the GPU is used to draw everything rather than the CPU and that's where hardware faults show themselves.


Probably banned for disagreeing

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, Spotty said:

 What's better, a graphics card without drivers or integrated graphics? ?

That's what i am asking,
No i Used ddu and everything works fine now! with drivers 353.xx

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7 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

I had my machine require a reinstall when I installed the nVidia drivers, it was a faulty card.

 

To put it in a simple way, the default Windows drivers will be drawing one pixel at a time using the CPU and not using the GPU as old 2D only graphics cards did. When you install the drivers, the GPU is used to draw everything rather than the CPU and that's where hardware faults show themselves.

Now that's the kind of info i was looking for. Thank you, so yeah i guess drivers wins!

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10 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

So u want to say "install the drivers"?
Yes or no, be clear!! ?

install the drivers, until you find drivers that work for you.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 threadSeasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

@Kpp550 if its doing what you want without the drivers, then don't get them

 

If its not doing what you want, then you need to start trying different drivers that are stable with your likely unstable GPU.

Actually it's that "nvidia container" thing (i think) which just comes randomly starts to download stuff, before that "nvidia container" everything was working like a charm!!!!

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