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How does one get a job at Linus Media Group?

philip1077
By philip1077
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It's totally unrealistic in the job market to work your whole life for one position at a company. So many things change and happen in the time inbetween. You may learn you hate doing that. Or you apply and someone else gets the job. Now you worked your whole life for nothing and you will always be sad at your job because it wasn't the one you "wanted". Or the company goes under, or you take low pay and horrible work conditions because you wanted to work there. 

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On 5/5/2019 at 3:06 PM, Kisai said:

 

Unless you already live here, the short answer to that is, you do not. You need to make 125K/yr to afford to buy here, or 70K/yr to rent. Langley is expected to have the Skytrain (subway) extended from King George through Fleetwood, and that would make it easier to get to LMG by transit. Right now, it's a 90 minute bus ride ON TOP of how you get to King George station. If you come from east of Langley (eg Chilliwack) you're going to have to drive. Regardless you have to walk 1.3km from the nearest bus stop.

Haha, $70k/year? No. No you don't. You can make significantly less than that and still afford rent and all your other bills. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. You could always rent closer to LMG, you know. Imagine that.

On 5/8/2019 at 7:03 PM, Kisai said:

Nay, they're very realistic.

1. If you need a roommate, then you are not being paid enough to live in the location. You should not be subsidizing your employer, even if your employer is you. Two-income families can justify a larger place because they intend to have kids. Two roommates are just sucking up housing that families need, yet wouldn't need to if bachelor and 1-bedroom properties didn't have such a large cost gap versus 2bed/3bed units.

 

2. Vancouver is the second most expensive city to live in right now. This is due to a combination of money laundering, counterfeit drug market, and foreign investment running head first into people buying up all the affordable buildings, demolishing all the affordable buildings, and replacing them with garbage-class luxury condos (that are too tiny to live in) or nothing at all. 

 

If you are renting, the maximum is 25% of your gross income. If you really want to live in BC, you're going to drop 15-20% of your gross income in income tax, and an additional 12% on nearly all purchases in sales taxes. 

 

Between taxes and renting, you're looking at 57% of your gross income is gone before you even buy food. This is why people should not be in a hurry to spend 50% of their gross income on housing, because they will surely find themselves in trouble if they ever miss a day of work.

 

The necessary costs? Let's see internet, about $100/mo, mobile phone? 100$/mo. Energy? If you rent and heat is not included, probably $100/mo, otherwise might be closer to $50. Food costs and transportation costs are directly dependant on the kind of food you like and how far you are willing to walk/drive/transit to get to it. People often cite "oh just buy your own food" not taking into account the fact that they many not have a car or a fridge. 

 

The same can be said for buying property. Most single family homes in Metro Vancouver built after 1979 have been built with illegal basement suites intended to be mortgage helpers. This means if you buy a 1 million (and nearly all detached homes are over 1 million) property, you are required to either rent that basement suite, even if illegal, in order to afford your mortgage. A Mortgage on a 1million dollar property is about 5,816.05/mo . So times that by 4 to get the monthly salary and then times by 12 to get the yearly salary of ‭279,170.4‬0‬. That's what you need before considering shooting yourself in the foot. Up that to 30% and then rent out the basement suite for 2000$/mo (yeah right), you instead need to make 3862/per week (185,377/yr salary.) The property taxes, or strata fees (everything that is not a SFH) can frequently be equal to renting. (Compare strata fees out east to BC, and BC is a bargain though.)

 

That's how it works out here. You may not agree, and there are plenty of people who do not have a grasp of what it's like to live in a large metro area, but there are a lot of hidden costs and benefits that apply to living in a city like Vancouver, Hong Kong, and London that do not apply to large cities in the US. The principal problem with a comparison to the US is that health care is a landmine, so where in Canada you might have 57% of your income sucked away and get passable healthcare. In the US, you are always one health emergency away from being screwed forever.

  • If you're renting, there's no "maximum" you can spend on your rent. That's merely a guideline they recommend you go by. You can easily pay more, and still get by pretty easily.
  • Yup, tax is 12%, but it's only on consumer goods, not things like food. So it's not something that's going to make a massive difference in your day to day life.
  • Not sure why you even bothered bringing up income tax, that's going to be pretty much the same across the country, regardless of where you live.
  • You can easily miss work and not have an issue, even spending a decent amount on bills.
  • Are you kidding me? Every rental unit in Vancouver has a fridge. If you don't, buy a mini fridge; they're extremely cheap. And, frankly, if you don't have a fridge, you're paying next to nothing for rent.
  • If you're single, you're not buying a house. There's really no reason to.
  • Where on earth did you get your property tax number? It's no where near what you'd bring in from rent. On a million dollar property, you're looking at $2,500/year in tax.
  • Another problem you're going to have; you're working at LTT. Why are you living in Vancouver? Housing is significantly cheaper in Surrey, Maple Ridge, Langley, etc. So, we'll take the average house cost of about $850k, and your mortgage cost comes out to $4k a month. High, but no where near the almost $6k you came up with. Rental rates are cheaper, as well, once you leave Vancouver.

 

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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Haha, $70k/year? No. No you don't. You can make significantly less than that and still afford rent and all your other bills. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. You could always rent closer to LMG, you know. Imagine that.

  • If you're renting, there's no "maximum" you can spend on your rent. That's merely a guideline they recommend you go by. You can easily pay more, and still get by pretty easily.
  • Yup, tax is 12%, but it's only on consumer goods, not things like food. So it's not something that's going to make a massive difference in your day to day life.
  • Not sure why you even bothered bringing up income tax, that's going to be pretty much the same across the country, regardless of where you live.
  • You can easily miss work and not have an issue, even spending a decent amount on bills.
  • Are you kidding me? Every rental unit in Vancouver has a fridge. If you don't, buy a mini fridge; they're extremely cheap. And, frankly, if you don't have a fridge, you're paying next to nothing for rent.
  • If you're single, you're not buying a house. There's really no reason to.
  • Where on earth did you get your property tax number? It's no where near what you'd bring in from rent. On a million dollar property, you're looking at $2,500/year in tax.
  • Another problem you're going to have; you're working at LTT. Why are you living in Vancouver? Housing is significantly cheaper in Surrey, Maple Ridge, Langley, etc. So, we'll take the average house cost of about $850k, and your mortgage cost comes out to $4k a month. High, but no where near the almost $6k you came up with. Rental rates are cheaper, as well, once you leave Vancouver.

 

The burden of proof is on you then. I only stated what is required to live here without making compromises. Every number I quoted came directly from published numbers. You seem to have assumed "living in downtown Vancouver" rather than the more realistic scenario of within a 20 minute commute (walk, bus or drive) in Surrey or Langley. Income tax is also very relevant since many people are making unreasonable compromises and spending more than half their income on renting a deathtrap.

 

Please, show me an affordable rental near LMG.

 

At present the closest thing to LMG is a $1500 2Bed basement suite. So do you make $78000/yr? https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/35765936/2-bedroom-1-bath-apartment-at-18585-56-ave-surrey-bc-v3s-7y2 , that's a 4 minute drive or a 25 minute walk. However you are not walking from here to get groceries. 

 

Next, the cheapest is 1350/mo 1bed unit (you need to make $70200/yr) https://www.padmapper.com/buildings/p344551/maple-manor-apartments-at-20117-56-ave-langley-city-bc-v3a-3y3 , near Langley's core, you can walk here to get groceries, but it's a 50 minute walk to LMG, or a 24 minute bus commute. 

 

There is nothing cheaper within commutable distance. If we use the entire lower mainland, $700/mo (you'd need $36400/yr) bachelor unit in Abbotsford. https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36259531/studio-1-bath-apartment-at-1968-mccallum-rd-abbotsford-bc-v2s-3m6 , that's a 41 minute drive, or 2 hour 15 minute bus commute.

 

Or how about buying near LMG? 1.2m sound affordable? R2357927.  6,854.77/mo , which means you need to make 356,448.04‬/yr. What's the cheapest lower mainland property right now? (That is not a seniors trailer park or retirement hotel.) That would be R2370942. Selling for $124,900 in Chilliwack. That's a one hour commute by car or a three hour bus ride. No sale, that's even further than downtown Vancouver. And how much does it cost? 726.42/mo in mortgage payments + 225$/mo in strata fees + 511.45/yr in property taxes. That is 961.25/mo which means you need to make 49,985.29‬/yr.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Kisai said:

The burden of proof is on you then. I only stated what is required to live here without making compromises. Every number I quoted came directly from published numbers. You seem to have assumed "living in downtown Vancouver" rather than the more realistic scenario of within a 20 minute commute (walk, bus or drive) in Surrey or Langley. Income tax is also very relevant since many people are making unreasonable compromises and spending more than half their income on renting a deathtrap.

 

Please, show me an affordable rental near LMG.

 

At present the closest thing to LMG is a $1500 2Bed basement suite. So do you make $78000/yr? https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/35765936/2-bedroom-1-bath-apartment-at-18585-56-ave-surrey-bc-v3s-7y2 , that's a 4 minute drive or a 25 minute walk. However you are not walking from here to get groceries. 

 

Next, the cheapest is 1350/mo 1bed unit (you need to make $70200/yr) https://www.padmapper.com/buildings/p344551/maple-manor-apartments-at-20117-56-ave-langley-city-bc-v3a-3y3 , near Langley's core, you can walk here to get groceries, but it's a 50 minute walk to LMG, or a 24 minute bus commute. 

 

There is nothing cheaper within commutable distance. If we use the entire lower mainland, $700/mo (you'd need $36400/yr) bachelor unit in Abbotsford. https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36259531/studio-1-bath-apartment-at-1968-mccallum-rd-abbotsford-bc-v2s-3m6 , that's a 41 minute drive, or 2 hour 15 minute bus commute.

 

Or how about buying near LMG? 1.2m sound affordable? R2357927.  6,854.77/mo , which means you need to make 356,448.04‬/yr. What's the cheapest lower mainland property right now? (That is not a seniors trailer park or retirement hotel.) That would be R2370942. Selling for $124,900 in Chilliwack. That's a one hour commute by car or a three hour bus ride. No sale, that's even further than downtown Vancouver. And how much does it cost? 726.42/mo in mortgage payments + 225$/mo in strata fees + 511.45/yr in property taxes. That is 961.25/mo which means you need to make 49,985.29‬/yr.

I lived in Vancouver for over a decade. I know how much it costs. I've also paid $1,000/month in rent making no where near the $52,000 you assume it'd take. Compromises to some aren't compromises to others, and that's also something you need to take into account.

 

Why are you looking at two bedroom places? A one bedroom would be what most people looking to work there are probably looking at...not only that, if they're looking at two bedrooms, one would assume they have a family, thus have 2 incomes. Making the proposition even easier.

Want some examples? Here's two.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/apa/d/surrey-1br-bsmt-suite-for-rent-in/6886331470.html

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/apa/d/surrey-one-bedroom-suite-950-month/6879185970.html

Both extremely close to LMG. Want to go farther out?

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/apa/d/surrey-furnished-1bedrm-apartment/6885905675.html

Close to Skytrain. There are numerous other examples for a similar price.

 

Believe it or not, public transit exists...as do bicycles. There are numerous other ways to get to work other than walking or a car.

 

You clearly don't live in the GVRD, and that's why you're using Padmapper, so I can see how you'd have trouble finding decent pricing for rentals.

 

Purchasing, sure you're right. The GVRD is expensive. I never said it wasn't. However, if you're just starting out, apartments are more than acceptable, and much more affordable. You also don't need to make the insane sums of money you've put forth to afford a house; I have a good friend making just over $250k combined income, and he has a house. High, probably higher than what you'd make at LMG with the combined income of a spouse, sure. But it's nowhere near the $350k assumptions you're making. Your "has to be 25%!" mentality is simply incorrect, and not what happens in the real world.

 

 

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No offense but they already have way too many people as it is and realistically speaking, I don't see Floatplane taking off anytime soon (Yes, pun intended). The chances that a small start up out of a warehouse is going to be able to compete with giants like Google and Amazon even if it is just a niche market is not good. That is, is good for them to maintain their small business status and income but not for a place were you really want to make it a point to go work to as when it comes to career opportunities, LMG and Floatplane are definitively not final destinations, again no offense.

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4 hours ago, dizmo said:

I lived in Vancouver for over a decade. I know how much it costs.

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You clearly don't live in the GVRD, and that's why you're using Padmapper, so I can see how you'd have trouble finding decent pricing for rentals.

 

 

 

Clearly you are the one that does not live in Metro Vancouver. I do, in Burnaby, and have been here since 2004. Don't add to the distortion in the market by expecting 8 people to share a 400 squarefoot closet just so they can live near where they work. No less than 10 towers have gone up near me in the last 8 years. The previous mayor did nothing, and let hundreds of rental units be demolished and replaced with luxury shoebox condos and townhomes that are barely livable. The previous two Mayors of Surrey was even worse and enabled speculators to buy up all the affordable property in the city with the expectation of the rubbish light rail line that would serve nobody.

 

If you want to work here, you are going to pay through the nose right now. The wages being paid in Metro Vancouver right now are not reflective of reality. People who come here and make compromises just so they can enter the job market, are subsidizing the criminal insanity that is the housing market. 

 

Hence, If you do not already live here, do not bother applying to jobs in Metro Vancouver. What looks like a well-paying job here, likely isn't.

 

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3 hours ago, comander said:

Most published numbers are bullshit. 

The published budget for living expenses at UCLA was around 15k a year when I went to college and I made it work on around 7k a year. 

There's a lot of fluff and bullshit in "published numbers". 

Also you had previously said "need" not "need in order to not make sacrifices". 

Bare minimum is MUCH reduced from what you consider acceptable. 
I say this as someone who lived in their car to save cash for tuition but who also earns in the top 1% of their age group... Most people can make do with much less and still have comfort. 

 

"Past performance is not indicative of future results"

 

I'll repeat once again for the peanut gallery:

 

Do not subsidize your employer. If you are putting more than 25% of your gross pay into housing, be that renting or mortgage payments, you are subsidizing your employer. Period.

 

I currently pay, in Burnaby, a rental rate that is what you currently would have to move to Chilliwack to get. If and when the landlord decides to demovict this side of the street (all those towers were built on the other side.) I'm going to renegotiate my contracts with my clients in Burnaby and if they don't want to pay twice what they're paying now, I'd rather move elsewhere and drop them as a client. It's not personal, it's business.

 

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On 5/21/2019 at 3:30 PM, Kisai said:

Clearly you are the one that does not live in Metro Vancouver. I do, in Burnaby, and have been here since 2004. Don't add to the distortion in the market by expecting 8 people to share a 400 squarefoot closet just so they can live near where they work. No less than 10 towers have gone up near me in the last 8 years. The previous mayor did nothing, and let hundreds of rental units be demolished and replaced with luxury shoebox condos and townhomes that are barely livable. The previous two Mayors of Surrey was even worse and enabled speculators to buy up all the affordable property in the city with the expectation of the rubbish light rail line that would serve nobody.

 

If you want to work here, you are going to pay through the nose right now. The wages being paid in Metro Vancouver right now are not reflective of reality. People who come here and make compromises just so they can enter the job market, are subsidizing the criminal insanity that is the housing market. 

 

Hence, If you do not already live here, do not bother applying to jobs in Metro Vancouver. What looks like a well-paying job here, likely isn't.

 

Haha, I've never seen that many people sharing a space that small. You're blowing things massively out of proportion. I did, at one time, share a 2 bedroom apartment in Yaletown. My half of the rent was still $1,600, and no, I didn't make the insane figures you probably think I should have to be able to "afford" it, nor did I live paycheck to paycheck. Something that isn't livable to you is clearly livable to a huge majority of other people. Perhaps you just have grandeur assumptions of what a property in one of the most desirable places in North America should be. Those small condos make a lot of sense for the way tons of people in Vancouver and the surrounding area live; singles, who spend more time outside than inside. Home is simply a place to lay your head, your life takes place outside of it. As your income rises, the "25%" figure you keep quoting makes less and less sense, as you can easily get away with devoting more of your income to living without affecting the other areas of your life. People do make compromises, no doubt. That's something that will happen in extremely desirable cities.


 

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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

As your income rises, the "25%" figure you keep quoting makes less and less sense, as you can easily get away with devoting more of your income to living without affecting the other areas of your life. People do make compromises, no doubt. That's something that will happen in extremely desirable cities.

 

 

 

25% is the maximum, anyone, anywhere, should be paying to rent or paying in mortgage payments.

 

Here, take a look at this:

One_Third_Rent-03-1.jpg

https://www.earnest.com/blog/rent-and-the-30-percent-rule/

 

Do you understand? You can't afford to spend more than 25% in Metro Vancouver, because the rental costs are not inline with reality. In Vancouver, each dollar number on that graph is multiplied by 3. To afford a 1800$/mo apartment, you need to make 93.6K or $48/hr. That's not what exists in Vancouver. Businesses still paying wages like it's 2008.

 

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25% is the maximum, anyone, anywhere, should be paying to rent or paying in mortgage payments.

 

Here, take a look at this:

 

https://www.earnest.com/blog/rent-and-the-30-percent-rule/

 

Do you understand? You can't afford to spend more than 25% in Metro Vancouver, because the rental costs are not inline with reality. In Vancouver, each dollar number on that graph is multiplied by 3. To afford a 1800$/mo apartment, you need to make 93.6K or $48/hr. That's not what exists in Vancouver. 

 

Hahaha, no, no you don't. You're quite daft. You can look at these graphs as much as you want, and live in that reality, completely ignoring what the real world does. But that doesn't mean that you're anywhere close to being correct.

 

If that was accurate, no one would be renting, anywhere, ever. Even in Edmonton rent is more than what you've listed here, and it's one of the cheaper places in the country to live. You're so out of touch with reality it's not even funny.

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umm, peeps.. lets stop with the personal attacks and agree to disagree instead of challenging each other to a call-out contest.

i think the topic is how does one get a job at LMG not about living expenses.. though it is something to consider.. but arguing that expense is just bickering.

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