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Epic acquires Psyonix, will stop selling Rocket League on Steam

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

EA is the publisher of all of those games and owners of most of those studios. Crytek is a strategic partner with EA, EA doesn't own them. Crysis 2 was pulled from Steam and later returned as Crysis 2 Maximum Edition. Crysis 3 was never published on Steam. 

So, I did some research as to why EA pulled their newer titles.  It wasn't even to compete it's literally because EA doesn't like Valve's DLC policy.


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Just now, Lurick said:

So why not, if the Epic platform is "better", keep the game for sale on Steam and offer it on Epic? Why possibly fragment a community like this?

To push their own store in popularity. That is all there is. I reckon Epic is targeting even more popular e-sport title like games. CS:GO and Dota are form Valve, so... ARK and PUBG?


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3 minutes ago, Lurick said:

So why not, if the Epic platform is "better", keep the game for sale on Steam and offer it on Epic? Why possibly fragment a community like this?

Because EA and Epic have some fit over different policies Valve has.  For Epic they're bitching over some pay thing, and EA is bitching over a DLC policy.  At least that's what both are promoting.


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Just now, valdyrgramr said:

So, I did some research as to why EA pulled their newer titles.  It wasn't even to compete it's literally because EA doesn't like Valve's DLC policy.

Not sure if you ever checked DLCs for ME3, but don't. You'll go bankrupt just by looking at them (they released a pack which is still not the best solution but it's something I suppose).

But that is not the point here. Literally no one ever did such an aggressive move like this. I reckon not even Tencent would be so extreme. 

And no, I don't even own Rocket League, I couldn't care less about the game, it's about the principle. 


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I've never played Fortnite, I hate everything about it, but Rocket League is a game that I always come back to every few months so this news has me pretty nervous. I feel like the drop rate of good stuff from crates was already suspect and this certainly isn't going to help.

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Psyonix is a long time Epic partner, working on a lot of multiplayer for Unreal for them over the years. This has less to do with EGS and more to do with the long-term company relationships. It's probably a good pickup for Epic, and I'm happy for the Psyonix team. There's a NoClip documentary about Rocket League's development, if you want more information. 

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

Not sure if you ever checked DLCs for ME3, but don't. You'll go bankrupt just by looking at them (they released a pack which is still not the best solution but it's something I suppose).

But that is not the point here. Literally no one ever did such an aggressive move like this. I reckon not even Tencent would be so extreme. 

And no, I don't even own Rocket League, I couldn't care less about the game, it's about the principle. 

The point is that both are promoting their reasons as Valve being the bad guy, but it's more likely both are trying to promote their stores.  Not saying that's a good a thing, but both are doing similar bs.  EA does some other shady shit like buying competition/studios then shuts them down.


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PUBG?

PUBG is owned by tencent (IIRC) which owns epic games


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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

PUBG is owned by tencent (IIRC) which owns epic games

Oh right right. I forgot about that part. Well I can see where that one is going. 


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Epic games is just trolling all you virtue signallers bitter that your precious steam can't compete with their outdated business model.

 

The end result is hilarious for those of us with no skin in the game watching from the sidelines while you all cry and split hairs over one launcher vs another while being completely ignorant to the fact that DRM is still DRM regardless if steam some how brain washed you into thinking them championing the concept was okay.

 

Every time this subject is brought up it really shows the age of those involved. Never existing in a time when PC games were purchased once up front and launched by themselves.

 

But you know, keep fighting the good fight where all things not steam are evil and awful while turning a blind eye to the dumpster fire steam created for the gaming industry as a whole.


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1 hour ago, ElectronicWizard said:

Looks like Epic Games has chosen to acquire another launcher exclusive in the form of acquiring Psyonix, the studio notably behind "Rocket League".

As such, Rocket League will no longer be available for purchase on Steam once it's available on the Epic Games Store.

If you already own it on Steam you should be able to keep it on your account and continue receiving updates, but if the deal finalizes, then going forward, it will have to be purchased through the Epic Games Store for on PC.

I hate that the catalyst for Epic even being a thing and causing this was because of kids liking Fortnite...

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31 minutes ago, seoz said:

I hate that the catalyst for Epic even being a thing and causing this was because of kids liking Fortnite...

Actually, Epic was already a popular entity in the arena shooter gaming field and as an engine creator.  They co-existed as one of the biggest FPS makers next to id since the 90s.  Fortnite did help boost their popularity from there.  See Unreal Tournament and Championship.  Also, they're the developer of Gears of War too.  Fortnite didn't make them this thing overnight.


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2 hours ago, MeatFeastMan said:

This just doesn't sit well with me. Once again stupidity (of 10 year old fortnite players) is causing nasty market dominance like this.

 

I don't want to live in a world where we have Nvidia getting away with murder, Amazon controlling planet earth and Epic Games dominating the gaming market. No no and more no..

 

 

 

 

Well, Fornite is pretty decent (tho community is trash) and Epic always had Unreal so.

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52 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Actually, Epic was already a popular entity in the arena shooter gaming field and as an engine creator.  They co-existed as one of the biggest FPS makers next to id since the 90s.  Fortnite did help boost their popularity from there.  See Unreal Tournament and Championship.  Also, they're the developer of Gears of War too.  Fortnite didn't make them this thing overnight.

Fortnite dialed it to 11 though. In 2012 Tencent bought 40% of Epic and Epic was valued at $825M. They literally went from worth $5-8B in July (according to Blomberg) to nope, you're worth $15B in December (they had financing round and you can obviously see the difference in evaluation, but it's still a lot). Fortnite is believed to have made $2.4B alone last year. 

Mind you Unreal Engine is the big reason they are so big. 


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8 minutes ago, Nowak said:

Considering the exact phrasing was

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We reached out to Epic Games and Psyonix who have offered this clarification: "We are continuing to sell Rocket League on Steam, and have not announced plans to stop selling the game there." An Epic spokesperson added, "Rocket League remains available for new purchasers on Steam, and long-term plans will be announced in the future."

I consider it still likely that's an attempt to calm people down and then announce it in the future, but that's speculation rather than a fact. Just based on "long term plans will be announced in the future".

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1 hour ago, Hellion said:

Epic games is just trolling all you virtue signallers bitter that your precious steam can't compete with their outdated business model.

 

The end result is hilarious for those of us with no skin in the game watching from the sidelines while you all cry and split hairs over one launcher vs another while being completely ignorant to the fact that DRM is still DRM regardless if steam some how brain washed you into thinking them championing the concept was okay.

 

Every time this subject is brought up it really shows the age of those involved. Never existing in a time when PC games were purchased once up front and launched by themselves.

 

But you know, keep fighting the good fight where all things not steam are evil and awful while turning a blind eye to the dumpster fire steam created for the gaming industry as a whole.

Steam has not caused the current decline in good "AAA" games (actually just a bit due to cs:go), but instead devs have decided to double down on things like ridiculous DRM and live service bullshit. I will fully grant you the fact that GoG is better for consumers, but it will most likely never get the popularity that it deserves, but enabling epic games is definitely not the way to fix the industry. Try not living in the past, but instead, create a better future.


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1 hour ago, Bouzoo said:

Fortnite dialed it to 11 though. In 2012 Tencent bought 40% of Epic and Epic was valued at $825M. They literally went from worth $5-8B in July (according to Blomberg) to nope, you're worth $15B in December (they had financing round and you can obviously see the difference in evaluation, but it's still a lot). Fortnite is believed to have made $2.4B alone last year. 

Mind you Unreal Engine is the big reason they are so big. 

I mean you can't ignore Gears of War or the Unreal franchise.  The only reason they were ever noticed originally was because back in the 90s and early 2000s arena shooters were all the craze, like how BRs are now, and you had two kings there!  Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament.  id kinda left the arena shooter genre for awhile, and Unreal was pushing them out every couple of years making them the king.  Then in the mid 2000s they got more popularity when they created the Gears of War franchise which sold really well.  Those 2 franchises are what made them, the Unreal engine was an extra cash flow for them in the background.  Fornite just made them trendy as fuck in modern times since arena shooters kinda died down.  Literally nobody gave a shit Epic until they made the Unreal games.


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