Running Dual Corsair AIO's setup

[Mouse-Potato]

Hello,

I have been running into an issue where I recently have installed an H80i V2 on my RX580 which works all fine and dandy.

On the CPU however my H100i V2 doesnt seem to be registering fan speed even though both of the fan blades are spinning.

 

I was wondering if anyone knows what the issue might be, is there some setting i'm missing in iCUE or in the Bios?

 

Thanks !

 

[Skiiwee29]

Do you have a different software installed for monitoring system information? I found that HWinfo64 would cause all sorts of havok and problems when I installed iCue to use my Commander Pro. 

[Mouse-Potato]

Just now, Skiiwee29 said:

Do you have a different software installed for monitoring system information? I found that HWinfo64 would cause all sorts of havok and problems when I installed iCue to use my Commander Pro. 

I do have hardware monitor installed but not HWinfo64

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, Mouse-Potato said:

I do have hardware monitor installed but not HWinfo64

Get rid of it. The problem is they use the same bus to do there things and causes a conflict and issues. 

[Mouse-Potato]

10 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

Get rid of it. The problem is they use the same bus to do there things and causes a conflict and issues. 

Just deleted them and rpm is still not showing 

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, Mouse-Potato said:

Just deleted them and rpm is still not showing 

did you reboot your PC?

[kidroc666]

try unplugging the h80 and see if the h100s rpm show up. id hope that corsair made it possible because i'm needing two like you and i want the monitoring to work..

[Blai5e]

5 hours ago, Mouse-Potato said:

I do have hardware monitor installed but not HWinfo64

You can run these concurrently BUT you need to disable the HWINFO64 setting "Safety | CorsairLink and Asetek Support" so they don't "fight" for sensor control (both programs use the CPUID SDK).

[PlymouthJoseph]

This isn't exactly related to the topic, but are you using a NZXT G12 with a H80i V2 for your RX580?
If so, how did the installation go, because that isn't meant to be compatible. I'm going to be installing the G12 onto my overheating GTX 1080 Classified but I am stumped on what cooler to get. I am planning on going with the H55 but I am really worried it is not thick enough to support the heat outputted by a overclocked 1080 that reaches 82°c while gaming.

Sorry this isn't related to the topic at hand.

[Corsair Nick]

Does the fan speed show properly for the H100i v2 if it's the only cooler connected to the USB header on your motherboard?  Also, which version of iCUE are you currently running?

[aezakmi]

As Skiiwee29 said, get rid of it, connect your fans directly to the mobo, set speeds via BIOS and call it a day

[Mouse-Potato]

5 hours ago, PlymouthJoseph said:

This isn't exactly related to the topic, but are you using a NZXT G12 with a H80i V2 for your RX580?
If so, how did the installation go, because that isn't meant to be compatible. I'm going to be installing the G12 onto my overheating GTX 1080 Classified but I am stumped on what cooler to get. I am planning on going with the H55 but I am really worried it is not thick enough to support the heat outputted by a overclocked 1080 that reaches 82°c while gaming.

Sorry this isn't related to the topic at hand.

Yes, i'm using the G12, the installation was a bit tricky because the tubing isn't exactly the easiest to bend and the screws didn't clear the waterpump housing, I had to find some other screws and they needed persuasion. The VRM is all on the side ,that the fans blows on so that's great, plus I have 3 case fans blowing upward onto the card which i'm sure helps with thermals. I was getting 76-80 degrees not overclocked and now overclocked i'm around 50 to 55 with H80. I'd do the H80i v2 hands down, i'm surprised at how much heat it kicks out. My case is a inwin 303 so I didn't really have that many options.

I can post a pic if you would like, just let me know.

[Tristerin]

Im going to follow this thread - Ive had beef a lot with Corsair Link, then iCUE and their own products just meh'ing the whole experience up.

[Mouse-Potato]

1 hour ago, Corsair Nick said:

Does the fan speed show properly for the H100i v2 if it's the only cooler connected to the USB header on your motherboard?  Also, which version of iCUE are you currently running?

It only shows the fan speed on the H80i not the H100i, I am running version 3.15.101 which seems to be the latest.

Initially when I first installed the H100i I had issues getting the fans to work and be detected, that was before the H80i.

I wonder if there is some sort of faulty connection in the unit... Don't know how I could check that 

[Mouse-Potato]

11 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

did you reboot your PC?

Seems like that is the first rule of anything with an on/off button.

(Yes)

[Mouse-Potato]

10 hours ago, kidroc666 said:

try unplugging the h80 and see if the h100s rpm show up. id hope that corsair made it possible because i'm needing two like you and i want the monitoring to work..

Still nothing...

[Mouse-Potato]

30 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

As Skiiwee29 said, get rid of it, connect your fans directly to the mobo, set speeds via BIOS and call it a day

That would be an option but considering that I have all corsair products, i'd expect it to work the way it should. I can pick what temp sensor I want the fans speed to follow, if I go straight into Bios i'm not sure I could do that.

The other option would be to remove USB plug from H80 and running the PWM fans off of GPU fan controllers using adaptors.

I get your train of thought, but I chose this route for convenience and simplicity, corsair's software should work, otherwise I would have done a custom loop.

[Mouse-Potato]

8 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Im going to follow this thread - Ive had beef a lot with Corsair Link, then iCUE and their own products just meh'ing the whole experience up.

What seems to be the ptroblems you're encountering other than the UI being overly confusing?

[Tristerin]

6 minutes ago, Mouse-Potato said:

What seems to be the ptroblems you're encountering other than the UI being overly confusing?

Originally it was Corsair Link, after using it for a bit I liked it afterwhich for over 8 months Corsair failed to maintain, or support or provide support or any conclusions on their forums until they released iCUE.  During this time no support from Corsair, lost alot of faith in them.  It was a hot mess garbage of, I cant believe this isn't being talked more about in the industry.

 

iCUE roles out - the functionality of Link, was lost in iCUE.  This wasn't even reskinned - its garbage.  Link displayed all my components, all my temp sensors, all of it accurately.  And all of it in a layout format that made 100% sense.

 

Corsair not supporting its own hardware to the software they created for it, some of the hardware only showing up portions of the info its supposed to, loss of custom settings on curves randomly, iCUE crashing causing fan curves to go nil, iCUE randomly losing custom presets. 

 

Really just losing faith in them as a company - at their pricepoint they are giving me Rosewill quality (all around), with Corsair pricing.

[Mouse-Potato]

9 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Originally it was Corsair Link, after using it for a bit I liked it afterwhich for over 8 months Corsair failed to maintain, or support or provide support or any conclusions on their forums until they released iCUE.  During this time no support from Corsair, lost alot of faith in them.  It was a hot mess garbage of, I cant believe this isn't being talked more about in the industry.

 

iCUE roles out - the functionality of Link, was lost in iCUE.  This wasn't even reskinned - its garbage.  Link displayed all my components, all my temp sensors, all of it accurately.  And all of it in a layout format that made 100% sense.

 

Corsair not supporting its own hardware to the software they created for it, some of the hardware only showing up portions of the info its supposed to, loss of custom settings on curves randomly, iCUE crashing causing fan curves to go nil, iCUE randomly losing custom presets. 

 

Really just losing faith in them as a company - at their pricepoint they are giving me Rosewill quality (all around), with Corsair pricing.

Yeah it's kind of disapointing, had I known the software was going to be like this I would have opted for an Alphacool open loop setup since they are modular and roughly the same price but better quality. I would have ran two rads, closed loop and just used a GPU block.

It seems to me that it can't be that hard to implement software to run off of heat sensors and adjust fans to run accordingly.

[Tristerin]

10 minutes ago, Mouse-Potato said:

Yeah it's kind of disapointing, had I known the software was going to be like this I would have opted for an Alphacool open loop setup since they are modular and roughly the same price but better quality. I would have ran two rads, closed loop and just used a GPU block.

It seems to me that it can't be that hard to implement software to run off of heat sensors and adjust fans to run accordingly.

IMHO they did this in an effort to stave off other manufacturers items being read by their software.  Corsair Link showed me EVERYTHING on all of my rigs (I usually have 4 or more rigs in my house going) - and let me decide exactly where to put it in my layout lol.  Then they patched Link it removed all of my non-Corsair items (both GPU's in my crossfire setup, all of the SSD's and HDD's in every rig no longer showing temps, all temp sensor readings missing, all RAM that wasn't Corsair etc) - the support had already stopped - but that was the nail in the coffin for it (Link).  (I was still using Link NO PROBLEMS until they did that patch to an unsupported software piece)

 

And iCUE just isn't cutting it.  Its kind of like the they sold me a gimmick.  Except Ray Tracing is gaining ground.

 

Anyhow, I hope they find a resolution for you - but I bet you if you go to their forum and ask this question they will ask you for a Log from iCUE (a mod will) and then 30 days will go by and you will ask for a report back and listen to crickets.  That's the usual results (or their own forum users will tell you this lol)

[Tristerin]

It probably doesn't help that this weekend Im discovering my $160+ Corsair HX 850 PSU is failing ALREADY.  I expected at that pricepoint and features to have a PSU last me at that wattage (Im pulling 400w and that's me overshooting the mark by quite a bit) for what Im pulling to last for 10 years.

[Corsair Nick]

On 4/30/2019 at 2:35 PM, Mouse-Potato said:

It only shows the fan speed on the H80i not the H100i, I am running version 3.15.101 which seems to be the latest.

Initially when I first installed the H100i I had issues getting the fans to work and be detected, that was before the H80i.

I wonder if there is some sort of faulty connection in the unit... Don't know how I could check that 

I've reached out to our developers about your issue so we can do some tests on our end.  Can you PM me your system specs (CPU, Motherboard, GPU, Fan Controllers, etc.)?

[PlymouthJoseph]

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 10:33 PM, Mouse-Potato said:

Yes, i'm using the G12, the installation was a bit tricky because the tubing isn't exactly the easiest to bend and the screws didn't clear the waterpump housing, I had to find some other screws and they needed persuasion. The VRM is all on the side ,that the fans blows on so that's great, plus I have 3 case fans blowing upward onto the card which i'm sure helps with thermals. I was getting 76-80 degrees not overclocked and now overclocked i'm around 50 to 55 with H80. I'd do the H80i v2 hands down, i'm surprised at how much heat it kicks out. My case is a inwin 303 so I didn't really have that many options.

I can post a pic if you would like, just let me know.

If you could post a few pics, that would be awesome!

Because I am using an Nvidia GPU, do you think it would be as difficult to get the H80i installed? I am going to be going with the H55 unless I know the H80i V2 will fit without much issue. I really do not want to use the H55 because the radiator is so thin which would quite badly lower the cooling potential.

 

Also, did you use any heatsinks for the VRMs or VRAM? I am planning on buying heatsinks for them, but I can't find one for the VRMs.

Oh, and how did you connect the pump, both radiator fans and the G12 fan? This is one of the things which is kinda panicking me... I'm going to be getting a SATA powered fan hub and hopfully connect everything to that and have a GPU to motherboard fan adapter and have them all run off the fan input, I just don't know how well that'll work.

[Mouse-Potato]

29 minutes ago, PlymouthJoseph said:

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Here you can see the inital setup that I did and how it fits inside the case:

I initially used just one of the fans for exhaust but added another one later the way it should be.

 

I did not use any heatsinks whatsoever, I read somewhere that they don't really need it.

On the picture above you can see a couple VRM's to the left side that aren't under the fan supplied with the G12 but I do have 3 Noctua (you can see the baby poop brown showing on the bottom of the case) case fans blowing directly onto the face of the GPU which helps a lot. My case is the inWin 303 which has a weird setup but suits my needs.

 

Later I added the second fan that you can see in this picture:  

It helped dropped the thermals a bit more after overclocking the GPU.

For the fan wiring, you can use the H55, but i'm not sure how the fans are hooked up, it might be the same as on the H80i if so it'll be easy. Keep in mind that the H50 is a lot thinner (like you said) than the H80i and you are running a 1080 classified that is overclocked. I'm not sure that will be enough cooling power considering the 1080 Classified version draws about 230-255 watts where as the RX 580 is probably around the 200 watt mark.

For my fans the two fans that mount to the radiator are plugged into the control unit for the H80i as for the G12 fan I hooked it up to a motherboard fan header and did a custom fan curve.

 

If you look at this review on GN:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2632-evga-gtx-1080-classified-tear-down-pcb-vrm-cooler

you'll notice the PCB layout of your GPU. You'll note that all the VRM's are on the side where the G12's fans is located, so you're pretty much set and have the perfect layout to mount the G12 and an AIO.

 

Don't bother with heatsinks or anything like that, just set up your fan to blow at 50% or more. If you can't set a GPU temp specific fan curve use your CPU heat temp sensor. The logic behind it is that if you're GPU is in load so is your CPU.

 

I did have to work a little to get the screw in place onto the GPU cooler, the screws barely clear the plastic housing around the H80i water pump. You might have to use different screws than those provided in the kit, I found some lying around in my mobo box where I keep all the spare parts that I never used.

 

Feel free to ask me anymore questions !