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What Linux Distro should I use?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm fairly new to Linux, and was wondering if there is a distro that is kind of like Windows 10 and will run most games with windows 10 compatability. (Since I don't know much about how to select and OS, just ask me questions if there was something that I should specify.)

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Most major distributions will run games about as well as the others and the compatibility with Windows games depends more on wine and/or dxvk than on the distro. What games specifically are you interested in running? Usually you can find out if a game will work well on Linux by searching for "<game> Linux".

5 minutes ago, OtterlyDumb said:

kind of like Windows 10

That would entirely depend on what aspects of Windows 10 you're referring to, but generally speaking Linux is not some sort of free Windows and expecting it to work exactly like Windows is setting yourself up for disappointment.


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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Most major distributions will run games about as well as the others and the compatibility with Windows games depends more on wine and/or dxvk than on the distro. What games specifically are you interested in running? Usually you can find out if a game will work well on Linux by searching for "<game> Linux".

That would entirely depend on what aspects of Windows 10 you're referring to, but generally speaking Linux is not some sort of free Windows and expecting it to work exactly like Windows is setting yourself up for disappointment.

OK, noted. I'm running games like Kerbal Space Program, Stormworks: Build and Rescue, and a little bit of Rainbow 6 Siege.

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16 minutes ago, OtterlyDumb said:

kind of like Windows 10

While I agree with Sauron that it's not the same, most Distros these days are pretty straightforward to use.  Terminal requirements are pretty low, and the software store apps are pretty good.

As long as Steam/wine/dxvk will run the games you want you will probably be ok there.

Get a cheap HDD/SSD and try one.  No risk.

 

EDIT- Most Popular Distros are pretty Straightforward.  Mint, Ubuntu, ETC.  Maybe stay away from Arch...

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For the one that works/looks most like windows I'd get Linux Mint, but be warned that you'll probably have lower fps and maybe games that don't work natively on linux at all (you'll need to install additional programs to get these running)


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1 minute ago, TheGlenlivet said:

While I agree with Sauron that it's not the same, most Distros these days are pretty straightforward to use.  Terminal requirements are pretty low, and the software store apps are pretty good.

As long as Steam/wine/dxvk will run the games you want you will probably be ok there.

Get a cheap HDD/SSD and try one.  No risk.

OK, thanks!

 

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8 minutes ago, OtterlyDumb said:

OK, noted. I'm running games like Kerbal Space Program, Stormworks: Build and Rescue, and a little bit of Rainbow 6 Siege.

KSP has a native Linux port, unfortunately rainbow 6 siege doesn't work very well with wine and I don't know about stormworks (though from what I read about the game it probably works fine with steam proton).


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Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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On 4/29/2019 at 10:09 PM, OtterlyDumb said:

if there is a distro that is kind of like Windows 10 and will run most games with windows 10 compatability.

Your best option is to run Windows 10. I fail to understand why you want to have a "Windows that is not Windows" which requires an additional emulation layer for most things which you want to run on it anyway.


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Just now, Dat Guy said:

Your best option is to run Windows 10. I fail to understand why you want to have a "Windows that is not Windows" which requires an additional emulation layer for most things which you want to run on it anyway.

Now that I've heard it a few times, I'm fine with the fact that it won't emulate Windows. I just really want it to run most of my games and be pretty easy to use.

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1 minute ago, Dat Guy said:

That's still true for Windows 10. Why do you absolutely want to have a Linux distribution?

I'm hoping to have Linux for my new build to help with the cost, and because I have heard many good things about it and want to try it.

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A new build will probably come with a Windows license anyway...

 

Linux is horrible in my opinion. The community is childish, the software quality is awful, the kernel is insecure and not really stable. Windows surpasses it in almost every way.

There are other free operating systems like FreeBSD which are less bad but still free - but for me (personally), they still wouldn't be worth the effort if I was in your place.


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25 minutes ago, Dat Guy said:

A new build will probably come with a Windows license anyway...

 

Linux is horrible in my opinion. The community is childish, the software quality is awful, the kernel is insecure and not really stable. Windows surpasses it in almost every way.

There are other free operating systems like FreeBSD which are less bad but still free - but for me (personally), they still wouldn't be worth the effort if I was in your place.

Do you really think the Linux kernel is insecure and not stable? If that was true, why would almost all servers run Linux and not Windows? Even Microsoft has some Linux servers.

And what software's have awful quality? There is a lot of good software for Linux. And IMO calling the community childish is childish.

 

I've personally used Xubuntu since 2008.


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7 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

Do you really think the Linux kernel is insecure and not stable?

Yes.

 

7 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

why would almost all servers run Linux and not Windows?

None of my servers run either of those.

 

7 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

There is a lot of good software for Linux.

Except if you want to do anything with videos, pictures or music.

 

8 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

IMO calling the community childish is childish.

The word you were looking for is "correct".


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1 minute ago, Dat Guy said:

None of my servers run either of those.

What are your servers running?

 

2 minutes ago, Dat Guy said:

Except if you want to do anything with videos, pictures or music.

I don't know much about music as I've never used anything else than Audacity, but I know there is a few programs for music production.

For pictures there is GIMP which in my opinions is good but if you need you can always run Photoshop with Wine. And for videos there is for example Kdenlive, Cinelerra or even DaVinci Resolve.


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Just now, Pasi123 said:

What are your servers running?

Currently, OpenBSD, FreeBSD and Solaris (illumos). I am still considering to phase out the FreeBSD servers as it can be rather annoying to maintain them unless I stick with the default compiler parameters.

 

2 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

For pictures there is GIMP which in my opinions is good but if you need you can always run Photoshop with Wine.

GIMP is far from being nearly as awesome as Windows/macOS picture editing applications, both regarding its usability and its features. It might be enough for "most people", but it still lags behind. Yes, I could simulate Windows - but why would I run Linux then anyway?

 

Raw photo editors like Darktable are available though.

 

3 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

And for videos there is for example Kdenlive, Cinelerra or even DaVinci Resolve.

None of those are even close to their Windows/macOS equivalents. I admit that Kdenlive is adequate though.


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2 minutes ago, Dat Guy said:

None of those are even close to their Windows/macOS equivalents. I admit that Kdenlive is adequate though.

Not even DaVinci Resolve which is literally used in Hollywood?

 

6 minutes ago, Dat Guy said:

Yes, I could simulate Windows - but why would I run Linux then anyway?

Some people doesn't like Windows or have some other reason not to use it, but some of them still want to use some Windows programs.


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I have never heard of DaVinci Resolve, so I might stand corrected here.

 

6 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

some of them still want to use some Windows programs.

Then they want to use Windows. I know that many people wrongly assume that Windows was a bad thing to use. Using Windows applications is not really better on any other OS.


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Let me save you the headaces of choosing by forcing a choice on you. 

 

Get UBUNTU. This is your only choice. You must get Ubuntu. Done


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Lemme help you out, get Pop!_OS, best OS I have ever used. Ubuntu is also good if you do not care about up-to-date for stuff like.... everything :/

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