Opinions? Rx 580 vs GTX 1060?

[GtfoDragon57]

I'm trying to upgrade my graphics card cuz my system is around 6 years old and it's time. I've been researching and my price range is around $200. So... RX 580 8gb or GTX 1060 6gb?

[PlayStation 2]

What applications do you plan on using it in?

[Fasauceome]

The 580 is usually cheaper for the same thing. What region are you shopping in?

[Majestic]

580 is generally better performance at the cost of increased power consumption. If you care a great deal about power consumption, have heat constraints (small case, little airflow), low a limited power supply (<500), go 1060. Otherwise the 580 is generally the better option.

 

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

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I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Fractal Core 500 is better. Fite me.

 

[AwesomeArsh]

Go with the GTX 1060

It has more power

 

 

[S w a t s o n]

12 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

I'm trying to upgrade my graphics card cuz my system is around 6 years old and it's time. I've been researching and my price range is around $200. So... RX 580 8gb or GTX 1060 6gb?

While not common, I have gone over 6GB of VRAM on a 1080p game (especially if you have multi-monitor and do other shit while gaming). Also, the RX580 is more powerful in raw throughput but is less optimized because muh Gameworks and muh mindshare

[LukeSavenije]

you could get a 1660 for 15 bucks more...

[DrMacintosh]

I'd go with the RX 580. 

[LOST TALE]

I had the chance to test 2+ of both GTX 1060 6GB's and RX 580 8GBs

 

They are equal at 1080p. RX 580 wins at higher res. at that res, OCing the mem clocks makes a bigger difference. Tested on Far cry 5.

 

I'm playing 60 fps 3.7K Bf1 on my rx 580.

 

Verdict: both are about equal and overkill at lower res. For higher res though, where the extra performance counts, the RX 580 wins.

 

At max settings (minus maybe AA, I don't remember) at 4K, the RX 580 got 29 FPS after all the OC was said and done (only 12.5% mem oc for RX 580 and power limit increase). The RX 580 could not increase core speed by much due to lack of power delivery. The gtx 1060 using the same overclocking got 25 fps (14% lower).

 

If you get an rx 580, get one with more than an 8 pin connector. the RX 580 was bottlenecked by power delivery. The 8 pin 150 W and the PCI 50W weren't enough. Btw, the RX 580 becomes very power efficient if you under clock it by 14%, it then uses only 70Ws, for mining. (stable for gaming or mining at 0.9v instead of 1.15v)

 

 

[GoldenLag]

22 minutes ago, Majestic said:

low a limited power supply (<500)

You can do it on a 400 watt PSU.

 

And its a lot more about quality of the PSU than wattage. And if the quality cant power a rx 580, then you shouldnt power anything with it. 

16 minutes ago, AwesomeArsh said:

Go with the GTX 1060

It has more power

 

 

No? They are roughly the same, with the rx 580 having architecture favoring more modern titles.

26 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

So... RX 580 8gb or GTX 1060 6gb?

Usually rx 580 because its cheaper.

 

But if you can id suggest looking at a gtx 1660.

[Crunchy Dragon]

-Moved to Graphics Cards-

 

What are you using your system for? That will have more bearing on what card you should buy.

[Majestic]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

You can do it on a 400 watt PSU.

Only on specific models. It's safer to just recommend 500, so you don't have to start talking about 12V rails and amperage.

[wasab]

Amd cards tend to aged better. 

 

 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

Only on specific models. It's safer to just recommend 500, so you don't have to start talking about 12V rails and amperage.

Again, its about quality, not wattage. There are plenty of 500 watt ++ PSUs id never suggest to use with an rx 580 or any GPU. 

 

A 400 watt PSU is enough. 

[LOST TALE]

9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You can do it on a 400 watt PSU.

 

And its a lot more about quality of the PSU than wattage. And if the quality cant power a rx 580, then you shouldnt power anything with it. 

No? They are roughly the same, with the rx 580 having architecture favoring more modern titles.

Usually rx 580 because its cheaper.

 

But if you can id suggest looking at a gtx 1660.

My system crashed when I tried running 2 RX 580s on a HCG620w...

[GoldenLag]

6 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

My system crashed when I tried running 2 RX 580s on a HCG620w...

Looking at the quality of that PSU. That isnt super surprising. 

 

Then there is also rail layout, but on a singlecard config its irrelavant in most cases

 

Edit: forgot to write the last part

[Stefan Payne]

14 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Only on specific models. It's safer to just recommend 500, so you don't have to start talking about 12V rails and amperage.

NO!

Because the Wattage is absolutely IRRELEVANT and yes, we have to talk about 12V Rails and Amperage because this is a 500W PSU. Obviously its crap and nobody would recommend it.

So pls stop talking about Wattage as that only leads to disaster and really really shitty units.

If we're talking about good quality 400W, it doesn't have any Problems with the 580 at all.

Especially since its a good amount away from 400W...

6 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

My system crashed when I tried running 2 RX 580s on a HCG620w...

yeah, because your HCG is shit and based on a 10 year old Unit.

 

I used TWO 7970GHz/280X on a couple of 650W PSU like Cougar GX-S, Super Flower Golden King. Corsair RM650i.

Hell even on 550W -> Cougar GX-F.

 

So its not the Wattage, its the Design of your shitty PSU.

 

Oh and I ran my VEGA64 with some tweaking on a 400W PSU (be quiet Pure Power 10)...

 

41 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

I'm trying to upgrade my graphics card cuz my system is around 6 years old and it's time. I've been researching and my price range is around $200. So... RX 580 8gb or GTX 1060 6gb?

8GiB >>> 6GiB.

RX580 is slightly b etter or a good amount, depending on the Game.

[LOST TALE]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

VEGA64 with some tweaking

lol that could easily mean less than half the power draw.

[LOST TALE]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Looking at the quality of that PSU. That isnt super surprising. 

 

Then there is also rail layout, but on a singlecard config its irrelavant in most cases

 

Edit: forgot to write the last part

does the HCG620w have a problem with rail layout and 2 cards?

[Stefan Payne]

Just now, LOST TALE said:

lol that could easily mean less than half the power draw.

Yes, and?
It works and it works well.

And I'm at around 400W Primary...

 

You were just wrong and your PSU is not a good example.

But hey, lets ignore the 2 7970GHz/280X on 550W (and some 650W).

[LukeSavenije]

16 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Only on specific models. It's safer to just recommend 500, so you don't have to start talking about 12V rails and amperage.

it's safer to just watch the quality of the unit in general, because more wattage doesn't make a better psu

 

slides to psu tier list

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

Just now, LOST TALE said:

does the HCG620w have a problem with rail layout and 2 cards?

Its a bad design, released in 2010.

We have 2019.

[LOST TALE]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yes, and?
It works and it works well.

And I'm at around 400W Primary...

 

You were just wrong and your PSU is not a good example.

But hey, lets ignore the 2 7970GHz/280X on 550W (and some 650W).

I stated a fact. It's not wrong. Quote what was wrong.

[LOST TALE]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Its a bad design, released in 2010.

We have 2019.

I'd like to see a source detailing why it's bad, other than age of design which is no direct cause.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, LOST TALE said:

I'd like to see a source detailing why it's bad, other than age of design which is no direct cause.

group regulation getting out of spec

 

is that a good reason?

 

but maybe continue in pm? i don't want to clutter here