Galaxy Fold Launch Event canceled

[MrFixitBlankFace]

In the wake of the foldgate controversy that spurred headlines and started a hashtag, Samsung is going to push back its launch event to perhaps a few weeks from now.

My sources ('cause you gotta have them)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/technology/personaltech/galaxy-fold.html

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/22/18511170/samsung-galaxy-fold-delay-indefinitely-statement-screen-display-broken-issues

 

 

 

 

 

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From The Verge

A new release date will be announced over the next few weeks

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NY Times

Samsung had previously said it would continue with its plans to release the Galaxy Fold in the United States this week. On Monday, after further inspection of the faulty devices, the company said some problems could be related to exposed areas of a hinge that allows the device to fold up like a book. In one instance, substances found inside the device affected the screen.

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We sort of knew it was bound to happen.

I wonder if the reviewers didn't see the problems, would Samsung sell bad consumer units?

[Enderman]

Your profile pic fits the news perfectly.

[Firewrath9]

why would someone buy this? its really THICC For the price, you can buy a Nice snapdragon 855 phone (say oneplus 6t for 600$), a ipad mini 5 (A12, stronger than 855), a surface GO (intel pentium Y), and have ~500$ left over.

 

or, a ipad pro + iphone Xs

or a ipad pro + iphone Xr + chromebook

or a macbook (pro) + iphone Xr

or just a S10+, and 1000$.

 

hell, if you are going to buy this, the huawei one is 50% slimmer, and has better camera option, and same battery size

[GoodBytes]

23 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

why would someone buy this? its really THICC For the price, you can buy a Nice snapdragon 855 phone (say oneplus 6t for 600$), a ipad mini 5 (A12, stronger than 855), a surface GO (intel pentium Y), and have ~500$ left over.

It is expensive technology, currently. Plus R&D needs to be paid..

I recall leaks of Microsoft future foldable phone/pc, having inform sources that it will target closer to the $2500 price point. That was a bit over year ago, of course, the device never saw the light of day...yet (more leaks suggest that it was put on hold, due to software not being ready and one can assume that the tech to be not ready yet and maybe they didn't see as that it will sale at this price point). So, seing that Samsung managed to have its phone for 2000$, I think fits in line with the cost of the technology.

 

Noticing Samsung Fold having so many porblems, even if we ignore the breaking of the screen, like the ease of scratches and dents, it looks like the technology is really not ready yet. 

[Arika]

good, the entire idea is dumb. you could get a good phone and a good tablet for the same price as the fold.

[79wjd]

1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

why would someone buy this? its really THICC For the price, you can buy a Nice snapdragon 855 phone (say oneplus 6t for 600$), a ipad mini 5 (A12, stronger than 855), a surface GO (intel pentium Y), and have ~500$ left over.

 

or, a ipad pro + iphone Xs

or a ipad pro + iphone Xr + chromebook

or a macbook (pro) + iphone Xr

or just a S10+, and 1000$.

 

hell, if you are going to buy this, the huawei one is 50% slimmer, and has better camera option, and same battery size

Let me just shove an iPad in my pocket. Yep, that'll certainly fit.

[D13H4RD]

1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

hell, if you are going to buy this, the huawei one is 50% slimmer, and has better camera option, and same battery size

And also worse in terms of implementation. It’s more eye-catching, that’s for sure, but that design is going to make it more susceptible to damage, even more so than the Fold.

 

5 minutes ago, Arika S said:

good, the entire idea is dumb. you could get a good phone and a good tablet for the same price as the fold.

I don’t think you can fit a tablet in a pocket. I think the whole point of a foldable device is to combine the portability of a smartphone with the display real-estate of a tablet.

 

It’s kind of a meme now, but tbh, I expected it, even the nature of the tech. I feel like it’s mostly done right now as a “flexing” sort of device (punny, I know), rather than something done for actual purpose. In a few years from now, it’ll likely be matured to really fit in the whole “phone + tablet hybrid” usecase but now, it’s typical first gen.

[ZacoAttaco]

Seems like a logical move, I think people were most surprised that they didn't announce this earlier. Even if it's just to add more warning material about the 'screen protector' then it makes sense. Particularly after the Note 7 fiasco it was good for Samsung not to rush this product's release if there even any doubt as to it's functionality.

[DrMacintosh]

Imagine paying $2000+ for the Galaxy Fold when you can get a better experience for half the price. 

 

Seriously, pick your favorite smartphone (in my case the iPhone 8 Plus) and just buy an iPad. 

 

iPhone 8 Plus: $699 

iPad: $329

Total: $1,028

 

Boom, saved $1K and you have a way better user experience.

 

The technology behind folding displays is cool and should be developed more. But the concept of a folding phone is flawed. 

[ZacoAttaco]

18 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Seriously, pick your favorite smartphone (in my case the iPhone 8 Plus) and just buy an iPad. 

 

iPhone 8 Plus: $699 

iPad: $329

Total: $1,028

 

Boom, saved $1K and you have a way better user experience.

  

The technology behind folding displays is cool and should be developed more. But the concept of a folding phone is flawed.  

Maybe at the moment, but once the technology progresses, I could very easily see them being common place or even tailored for power users/enterprise users. But at this point in time, particularly with the base iPad being so cheap right now there is an argument to buy those two devices.

[Guest]

New Techlinked: SAMSUNG did what! 

 

With a thumbnail of Riley in astonishment.

[Slurs Gang]

$2k smartphone better help me get some ladies or else I will no buy.

 

It is not like I am going to buy a $2k smartphone anyway. I can't even afford IPhone X so let alone Galaxy Fold. 

[Dabombinable]

Substances found inside the device.... 

[79wjd]

36 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Imagine paying $2000+ for the Galaxy Fold when you can get a better experience for half the price. 

 

Seriously, pick your favorite smartphone (in my case the iPhone 8 Plus) and just buy an iPad. 

 

iPhone 8 Plus: $699 

iPad: $329

Total: $1,028

 

Boom, saved $1K and you have a way better user experience.

 

The technology behind folding displays is cool and should be developed more. But the concept of a folding phone is flawed. 

As much as you, and others, want to pretend that a tablet can fit in a pocket, it simply can't. Physics is against you.

 

The concept of a folding phone certainly has some (pretty big) teething problems, it is after all in its infancy. Nevertheless, it is a good concept and one that certainly has its benefits.

[DrMacintosh]

6 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

Physics is against you

Physics is also against making a folding display. 

[D13H4RD]

26 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Physics is also against making a folding display. 

Well, there are things that are a commodity today that were previously not even thought to be possible due to the challenges that the laws of physics posed. 

 

There'll be a time where a display can be folded and manipulated to various shapes without damaging itself. But it's not today, certainly not at that price. 

[lewdicrous]

49 minutes ago, floofer said:

New Techlinked: SAMSUNG did what! 

 

With a thumbnail of Riley in astonishment.

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[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Physics is also against making a folding display.  

Please explain how "physics" is against making a folding display.

And please remember that flexible/folding OLED panels has been a think for 5+ years now. For example here is one from Nokia and Advanced Film Device, from 2014.

 

And since I don't doubt that people will accuse Samsung of copying some company like Huawei, I also found this video of the Galaxy Fold from back in 2013.

 

[mr moose]

2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Physics is also against making a folding display. 

No, mankind's ability to manipulate matter is a slight hold up to getting over teething issues.    By saying physics is against a folding display you are literally saying that it absolutely isn't possible.   If people gave up after the first failure claiming physics is against it,  we'd still be living in the dark ages.

[D13H4RD]

10 minutes ago, mr moose said:

No, mankind's ability to manipulate matter is a slight hold up to getting over teething issues.    By saying physics is against a folding display you are literally saying that it absolutely isn't possible.   If people gave up after the first failure claiming physics is against it,  we'd still be living in the dark ages.

Adding to that, I'm very sure that many products that are the first of its kind were very far from perfect, or even suitable. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, lewdicrous said:

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Well that’s just more inaccurate than I could have ever imagined 

[Bouzoo]

I like how people here are saying just buy these 3 devices and save money. Missing the point so hard my head hurts. You are obviously not the targeted market atm but in some years when phones properly implement it you'll scream how you can't live without that functionality. 

 

And good for Samsung for cancelling the launch, better to admit the mistake and fix it than to release the faulty product. 

[Bananasplit_00]

Still exited for the day when I can get a folding phone that's usable folded up and good for video unfolded. The Huawei thing may look big but it's to me a pos as it's a freaking square which destroys the meaning of these devices to me.

 

I want a phone and then I want a tablet sized screen for video content and I want that to fit in my pocket. Nobody seems to be making that yet but the fold is the closest so far I have seen

[Bouzoo]

5 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Boom, saved $1K and you have a way better user experience.

This is one of the goals of foldable phones though. If you can have 1 device that does both jobs perfectly, then that is a better UX than always carrying 2 separate devices. Also in the long run, at some point in the future, it will probably be cheaper as well. This is more of a public concept than a launch ready device. 

 

This is the same when people complained way back on phones that had camera, headphone jack, etc. Why would you use those when you have much better dedicated devices? We saw how that turned out. People want simplicity. 

[TechyBen]

3 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Please explain how "physics" is against making a folding display.

And please remember that flexible/folding OLED panels has been a think for 5+ years now. For example here is one from Nokia and Advanced Film Device, from 2014.

 

And since I don't doubt that people will accuse Samsung of copying some company like Huawei, I also found this video of the Galaxy Fold from back in 2013.

 

To be fair, is that a real Samsung video? I know they DID have flexi displays as concepts/working prototypes in expos etc, but AFAIK no videos of the actual hardware for the public until recently.

 

Your point is correct, just wrong video to choose.

 

PS, the link though is spot on! So the tech is progressing (same as say CPU etching tech). So quality + price can improve... Or will Dr Macintosh insists Apple still uses Tube Valves?