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Upgrading editing pc - help needed

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

Hello everyone

 

So I am currently rocking the following(see underneath), but I would love to upgrade presumably my cpu and ram - maybe gpu as well; however I am unsure of what I should upgrade to. I am primarily using my computer for work tasks, photo editing, some video editing and a tad of casual gaming. I would love some more cores, so that I am able to multitask better when editing as my current setup uses most of the cpu whilst working. I was looking at the I9-9900k and a new motherboard, but that is quite expensive, and I am not sure whether it is worth it?

 

I hope that some of you might be able to help me! :)

 

Current setup:

CPU: I5-6600K - OC'ed to 4.4 GHz.

RAM: Hyperx Fury 16 gb 2133 MHz - XMP overclocked. 

GPU: r9 390x 8gb.

Motherboard: MSI gaming m5 z170

PSU: 750 w

 

Thanks. Best regards

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1 minute ago, Sahara874 said:

Hello everyone

 

So I am currently rocking the following(see underneath), but I would love to upgrade presumably my cpu and ram - maybe gpu as well; however I am unsure of what I should upgrade to. I am primarily using my computer for work tasks, photo editing, some video editing and a tad of casual gaming. I would love some more cores, so that I am able to multitask better when editing as my current setup uses most of the cpu.  I was looking at the I9-9900k and a new motherboard, but that is quite expensive, and I am not sure whether it is worth it?

 

I hope that some of you might be able to help me! :)

 

Current setup:

CPU: I5-6600K 

RAM: Hyperx Fury 16 gb 2133 MHz - XMP overclocked. 

GPU: r9 390x 8gb.

Motherboard: MSI gaming m5 z170

PSU: 750 w

 

Thanks. Best regards

Your setup looks fine but of course a upgrade would give you massive performance gains.  Do you want to be future proof ?  If so grab the 9900k and use the turbo and if you have proper cooling you can then raise the voltage to like 1.32 to get a stable system.  The 9900k will blow the 6600k away and then some.  If you want to upgrade now and want to have your PC for years to come then 9900k is the way to go.  After this you can then determine if you need a new GPU.  Let us know what you decide.


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2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Ah man

I feel like you meant to type more, but accidentally entered your post early.

 

5 minutes ago, Sahara874 said:

I was looking at the I9-9900k and a new motherboard, but that is quite expensive, and I am not sure whether it is worth it?

If you want 8 cores and also leftover cash, AMD Ryzen has got your back. A 2700 and a solid B450 board would do. How far is you memory overclocked? Ryzen likes fast ram.

 

Also, what's the make and model of the PSU?


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Just now, fasauceome said:

I feel like you meant to type more, but accidentally entered your post early.

 

If you want 8 cores and also leftover cash, AMD Ryzen has got your back. A 2700 and a solid B450 board would do. How far is you memory overclocked? Ryzen likes fast ram.

 

Also, what's the make and model of the PSU?

Ooops I clicked the wrong thing and accidently saved it, but I did go back and write my post.


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6 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your setup looks fine but of course a upgrade would give you massive performance gains.  Do you want to be future proof ?  If so grab the 9900k and use the turbo and if you have proper cooling you can then raise the voltage to like 1.32 to get a stable system.  The 9900k will blow the 6600k away and then some.  If you want to upgrade now and want to have your PC for years to come then 9900k is the way to go.  After this you can then determine if you need a new GPU.  Let us know what you decide.

Okay yeah, so I have a noctua NH-D15(which is awesome) my current cpu is only just above room temp even while overclocked. Is the 9900K not stable out of the box, or is it just if overclocking I should increase the voltage? 

 

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

I feel like you meant to type more, but accidentally entered your post early.

 

If you want 8 cores and also leftover cash, AMD Ryzen has got your back. A 2700 and a solid B450 board would do. How far is you memory overclocked? Ryzen likes fast ram.

 

Also, what's the make and model of the PSU?

Okay, I just double checked and it is an EVGA SuperNova 850 W Gold+ psu. The ryzen do look nice, but I have heard that they don't last for long? Also I think the ram is at 2666 MHz perhaps not quite sure, but can check up on it later. :) 

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I'd get a Ryzen 7 2700, a good B450 or X470, 16GB of DDR4 and a SSD if you don't have one.


RYZEN 5 1500X | 8GB DDR4 | RX 570 4GB | OPTANE SSD 8 58GB | 240GB SSD | CORSAIR 88R

 

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OK, i'm not even gonna build this, but is this a good workstation?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Samsung 32GB (1 x 32GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($256.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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1 minute ago, Sahara874 said:

Okay yeah, so I have a noctua NH-D15(which is awesome) my current cpu is only just above room temp even while overclocked. Is the 9900K not stable out of the box, or is it just if overclocking I should increase the voltage? 

 

Okay, I just double checked and it is an EVGA SuperNova 850 W Gold+ psu. The ryzen do look nice, but I have heard that they don't last for long? Also I think the ram is at 2666 MHz perhaps not quite sure, but can check up on it later. :) 

They do last for long as there's still Zen 2 and maybe 2+ or 3 coming out after that on the same socket. If it's 2666MHz, then it's DDR4 and you do not need new memory. The D15 is fine with a 9900K, but I wouldn't get the i9 as it's a pretty big moneysink for ~15% better multicore compared to the ryzen 7.


RYZEN 5 1500X | 8GB DDR4 | RX 570 4GB | OPTANE SSD 8 58GB | 240GB SSD | CORSAIR 88R

 

Spoiler

OK, i'm not even gonna build this, but is this a good workstation?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Samsung 32GB (1 x 32GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($256.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-09 12:48 EST-0500

-me 3y ago

 

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1 minute ago, Sahara874 said:

Okay, I just double checked and it is an EVGA SuperNova 850 W Gold+ psu. The ryzen do look nice, but I have heard that they don't last for long? Also I think the ram is at 2666 MHz perhaps not quite sure, but can check up on it later

Supernova is good, so you're set there.

 

Not sure where you heard Ryzen doesn't last, but it certainly has a longer lifespan than coffee lake, if you count the upgrade path to the new CPUs coming out in a couple months. The AM4 socket will have upgrades for a good while, so 8 cores now and if you got a good motherboard, 16 cores later. 2666MHz ram is also good, that's what I personally consider the minimum for Ryzen and I never recommend lower.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - Asus DirectCU GTX 760 - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

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1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

They do last for long as there's still Zen 2 and maybe 2+ or 3 coming out after that on the same socket. If it's 2666MHz, then it's DDR4 and you do not need new memory. The D15 is fine with a 9900K, but I wouldn't get the i9 as it's a pretty big moneysink for ~15% better multicore compared to the ryzen 7.

also the power supply is pretty good and fine for basically anything nowadays


RYZEN 5 1500X | 8GB DDR4 | RX 570 4GB | OPTANE SSD 8 58GB | 240GB SSD | CORSAIR 88R

 

Spoiler

OK, i'm not even gonna build this, but is this a good workstation?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Samsung 32GB (1 x 32GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($256.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-09 12:48 EST-0500

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Supernova is good, so you're set there.

 

Not sure where you heard Ryzen doesn't last, but it certainly has a longer lifespan than coffee lake, if you count the upgrade path to the new CPUs coming out in a couple months. The AM4 socket will have upgrades for a good while, so 8 cores now and if you got a good motherboard, 16 cores later. 2666MHz ram is also good, that's what I personally consider the minimum for Ryzen and I never recommend lower.

 

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

also the power supply is pretty good and fine for basically anything nowadays

The ryzen setup would also be way cheaper compared to the I9. 370 USD cheaper to be exact. The next gen ryzen will have 16 cores? Sounds awesome. So should I purchase some new faster ram or would my overclocked 2133 to 2666 ram be alright?

 

If I go with the Ryzen, should I buy the 2700x or just the 2700 they are only 15 USD apart. 

 

Is there a place where I can find a road map for the AM4 socket/ryzen line? :)

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1 minute ago, Sahara874 said:

 

The ryzen setup would also be way cheaper compared to the I9. 370 USD cheaper to be exact. The next gen ryzen will have 16 cores? Sounds awesome. So should I purchase some new faster ram or would my overclocked 2133 to 2666 ram be alright?

 

If I go with the Ryzen, should I buy the 2700x or just the 2700 they are only 15 USD apart. 

 

Is there a place where I can find a road map for the AM4 socket/ryzen line? :)

for only $15 extra might as well grab the 2700x, and 2666 ram should do. 3200 or something later down the line would be an improvement to CPU performance and editing tasks, so something to consider in the future.

 

As for a roadmap, everything that AMD has put out is super general so far so nothing super useful to you, unless you want to know product codenames.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - Asus DirectCU GTX 760 - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

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Just now, Sahara874 said:

 

The ryzen setup would also be way cheaper compared to the I9. 370 USD cheaper to be exact. The next gen ryzen will have 16 cores? Sounds awesome. So should I purchase some new faster ram or would my overclocked 2133 to 2666 ram be alright?

 

If I go with the Ryzen, should I buy the 2700x or just the 2700 they are only 15 USD apart. 

 

Is there a place where I can find a road map for the AM4 socket/ryzen line? :)

I'd get the 2700 and just OC it to the 2700X's levels. You don't need to purchase faster RAM as with recent BIOS updates the entire reason why high speed RAM is important to Ryzen (infinity fabric speed, which is dependent on RAM speed) is now obsolete (you can now change infinity fabric speed).

 

For AM4, they say they'll support it until 2020. Zen 2 comes out this year in June, and Zen 2+ or 3 comes out next year, which means that we likely still have two new generations you can upgrade to.


RYZEN 5 1500X | 8GB DDR4 | RX 570 4GB | OPTANE SSD 8 58GB | 240GB SSD | CORSAIR 88R

 

Spoiler

OK, i'm not even gonna build this, but is this a good workstation?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Samsung 32GB (1 x 32GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($256.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-09 12:48 EST-0500

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17 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

for only $15 extra might as well grab the 2700x, and 2666 ram should do. 3200 or something later down the line would be an improvement to CPU performance and editing tasks, so something to consider in the future.

 

As for a roadmap, everything that AMD has put out is super general so far so nothing super useful to you, unless you want to know product codenames.

 

17 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

I'd get the 2700 and just OC it to the 2700X's levels. You don't need to purchase faster RAM as with recent BIOS updates the entire reason why high speed RAM is important to Ryzen (infinity fabric speed, which is dependent on RAM speed) is now obsolete (you can now change infinity fabric speed).

 

For AM4, they say they'll support it until 2020. Zen 2 comes out this year in June, and Zen 2+ or 3 comes out next year, which means that we likely still have two new generations you can upgrade to.

Thank you very much for the help both of you! I think I will take a closer look at the ryzen processors and motherboards. I still have two quick questions though: 

 

This infinity fabric speed how or what should I do with it then to maximize performance, if you have a link to an article or something. I am pretty decent with the bios and such.

 

And then, when I am going to do the upgrade, can I/should I install the drivers for the new motherboard and CPU before upgrading the parts or can I wait till afterwards? 

 

Thank you very much again!

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2 hours ago, Sahara874 said:

 

Thank you very much for the help both of you! I think I will take a closer look at the ryzen processors and motherboards. I still have two quick questions though: 

 

This infinity fabric speed how or what should I do with it then to maximize performance, if you have a link to an article or something. I am pretty decent with the bios and such.

 

And then, when I am going to do the upgrade, can I/should I install the drivers for the new motherboard and CPU before upgrading the parts or can I wait till afterwards? 

 

Thank you very much again!

While the Ryzen chips are fine, if you're editing work is mostly Adobe, then Intel favors that workload by a decent margin (depending on the specific application, see my edit below), the same goes for raw gaming performance. You don't have to go as high as the 9900K, you can also get the 9700K and still see substantial gains. The lack of hyperthreading won't make much of a difference in Adobe software nor in any current game.

 

I would, however, wait and see if Ryzen 3000 changes any of that. It's coming soon now.

 

EDIT: Actually in taking a second look at some data, at least in Premiere Pro, the 9700K is functionally tied with the 2700x, and the 2700x is still cheaper. Depending on the codec used, the 9700K either pulls ahead by a bit or falls behind by a bit for both AME export and live playback. The 9700K still pulls ahead significantly in Photoshop and After Effects, though. And the 9700K will indeed cream the 2700x in gaming.

 

So, if the extra cash spent on the 9700K is worth it to you to have equal performance in Premiere Pro, but better performance in Photoshop, After Effects, and gaming, that's up to you!

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1 hour ago, jerubedo said:

While the Ryzen chips are fine, if you're editing work is mostly Adobe, then Intel favors that workload by a decent margin (depending on the specific application, see my edit below), the same goes for raw gaming performance. You don't have to go as high as the 9900K, you can also get the 9700K and still see substantial gains. The lack of hyperthreading won't make much of a difference in Adobe software nor in any current game.

 

I would, however, wait and see if Ryzen 3000 changes any of that. It's coming soon now.

 

EDIT: Actually in taking a second look at some data, at least in Premiere Pro, the 9700K is functionally tied with the 2700x, and the 2700x is still cheaper. Depending on the codec used, the 9700K either pulls ahead by a bit or falls behind by a bit for both AME export and live playback. The 9700K still pulls ahead significantly in Photoshop and After Effects, though. And the 9700K will indeed cream the 2700x in gaming.

  

So, if the extra cash spent on the 9700K is worth it to you to have equal performance in Premiere Pro, but better performance in Photoshop, After Effects, and gaming, that's up to you!

Thank you very much for this information. I will remember this when considering it further. I'll wait with upgrading till next month.

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