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Intel readies the 9th generation low-power CPUs - a 35W i9?

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According to some sources, we might be seeing new low-power desktop chips from Intel in May, and all the SKUs are here, including some interesting ones..

 

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So, there will be a total of 10 new SKUs, 7 from the Core family and 3 from the Pentium family, and they are as follow:

 

SKU:

 

Intel Core i9-9900T

C/T

 

8/16

Base clock

 

2.1 GHz

Boost clock

 

TBD

TDP

 

35W

Intel Core i7-9700T 8/8 2.0 GHz TBD 35W
Intel Core i5-9600T 6/6 2.3 GHz TBD 35W
Intel Core i5-9400T 6/6 1.8 GHz TBD 35W
Intel Core i3-9300T 4/4 3.2 GHz TBD 35W
Intel Core i3-9100T 4/4 3.1 GHz TBD 35W
Intel Pentium G5600T 2/4 3.3 GHz N/A 35W
Intel Pentium G5420T 2/4 3.2 GHz N/A 35W
Intel Pentium G4930T 2/2 3.0 GHz N/A 35W
       
         

So, the lineup does look interesting. The most apparent difference from the 65/90W SKUs is obviously the base cloks, which drop as low as 1.8GHz.

Although these are not really meant for your typical gaming desktop PC, it should be found in HTPCs, all-in-ones, or even desktop replacement laptops. It should be pretty interesting.

 

Source:

https://wccftech.com/intel-9th-gen-core-35w-cpus-8-core-16-thread-core-i9-9900t/

       
         
         
         
         
         
         

 

 


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35 watts of Intel TDP means jack, still coffee lake so it's still not super duper efficient. At least it'll likely be cooled by a stock heat sink. Really looking forward to 8 cores on an H310 board, poor man's HEDT.


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Wait - they couldn't do this for laptops last year, why is it suddenly a thing?


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Just now, Sauron said:

Wait - they couldn't do this for laptops last year, why is it suddenly a thing?

They are probably no good for laptops unless the laptops have really good thermal solutions.  The base clock is rather low except on the lower core count CPU's. Which makes them low end desktop parts/utility parts rather than mobile solutions.


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I'm skeptical about this.


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31 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

35 watts of Intel TDP means jack, still coffee lake so it's still not super duper efficient. At least it'll likely be cooled by a stock heat sink. Really looking forward to 8 cores on an H310 board, poor man's HEDT.

Hmmm.  Is it me or is Intel going backwards while AMD is going forward with their upcoming Zen 2 and Zen 2 ThreadRipper.  Intel wants a monopoly so they make these cheesy CPU's for people who have no money to buy something high end.


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2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Hmmm.  Is it me or is Intel going backwards while AMD is going forward with their upcoming Zen 2 and Zen 2 ThreadRipper.  Intel wants a monopoly so they make these cheesy CPU's for people who have no money to buy something high end.

it's just you.


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1 minute ago, mr moose said:

it's just you.

ok cool then, Intel is going backwards and forwards at the same time I guess.


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46 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Wait - they couldn't do this for laptops last year, why is it suddenly a thing?

Asking the same thing lol


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1 hour ago, Turtle Rig said:

Hmmm.  Is it me or is Intel going backwards while AMD is going forward with their upcoming Zen 2 and Zen 2 ThreadRipper.  Intel wants a monopoly so they make these cheesy CPU's for people who have no money to buy something high end.

T series CPUs have been around for a lot of generations, going back to Ivy Bridge at least.  I have a 3220T in my NAS because it's not a CPU intensive deal and I'd rather have lower power.


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1 hour ago, mr moose said:

@Turtle Rig

Assuming this is actual real info, how is releasing these going backwards? 

Sorry, I guess it was a rant post on how Intel has been stuck on 18 core desktops and they wont budge at all.  Why can't they do what AMD did and will do with Zen 2 and have 64 threads.  To top it off the Intel is 500 dollars more expensive. It's common sense why pay 500 dollars extra for a 18 core when you can get a 32core for 500 less.  Now I know TR had bad single core performance, but Im hoping they fixed this with the new upcoming Zen 2 TR I'm willing to pay 1700 dollars,  But no way Im paying 2200 dollars and getting only 18 cores when 32 cores is right in your face with AMD and 500 bucks less.  sighs


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1 hour ago, Turtle Rig said:

Hmmm.  Is it me or is Intel going backwards while AMD is going forward with their upcoming Zen 2 and Zen 2 ThreadRipper.  Intel wants a monopoly so they make these cheesy CPU's for people who have no money to buy something high end. 

I mean, this isn't their flagship line of CPUs, given the low TDP and the assumed integrated graphics they could be used for a lot of more menial tasks. Like @mr moose pointed out, a custom NAS machine or running VMs of a server or just a small form factor Micro or Mini-ATX build. With adequate cooling these chips could run very cool and very quiet. Although, this according to 'sources' so we shoudln't speculate too much.

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Oh cool, more ways to confuse customers who don't know any better... By reusing the same God damn moniker but putting a T right at the end.

 

I know they've been doing this for a while now... But come on Intel!

 


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1 hour ago, TetraSky said:

Oh cool, more ways to confuse customers who don't know any better... By reusing the same God damn moniker but putting a T right at the end.

 

I know they've been doing this for a while now... But come on Intel!

 

whats the T normally mean?

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2 hours ago, Turtle Rig said:

Sorry, I guess it was a rant post on how Intel has been stuck on 18 core desktops and they wont budge at all.  Why can't they do what AMD did and will do with Zen 2 and have 64 threads.  To top it off the Intel is 500 dollars more expensive. It's common sense why pay 500 dollars extra for a 18 core when you can get a 32core for 500 less.  Now I know TR had bad single core performance, but Im hoping they fixed this with the new upcoming Zen 2 TR I'm willing to pay 1700 dollars,  But no way Im paying 2200 dollars and getting only 18 cores when 32 cores is right in your face with AMD and 500 bucks less.  sighs

They aren't doing what AMD have done because they don't need to,   HEDT is a very small portion of Intel's sales.    At the end of the day if we look at performance per dollar in the domestic market, everything is priced about the same, a few expensive outliers and a few good deals, but mostly the more you pay the better your performance.   Majority (and I mean a significant majority) of domestic consumers don't need more than 4 cores, the  more cores push is more about marketing and development than it is about sales and system requirements.

 

If you want to look at the commercial side of things then there is another entire line of thinking and conditions that have to considered.   I.E there is more to it than simply performance per dollar.


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2 minutes ago, mr moose said:

They aren't doing what AMD have done because they don't need to,   HEDT is a very small portion of Intel's sales.    At the end of the day if we look at performance per dollar in the domestic market, everything is priced about the same, a few expensive outliers and a few good deals, but mostly the more you pay the better your performance.   Majority (and I mean a significant majority) of domestic consumers don't need more than 4 cores, the  more cores push is more about marketing and development than it is about sales and system requirements.

 

If you want to look at the commercial side of things then there is another entire line of thinking and conditions that have to considered.   I.E there is more to it than simply performance per dollar.

Your very bright and smart person.  Thank you for the detailed message.  I had a Athlon XP once, after that I have been intel with P5k core 2 quad and my current rig.


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Your very bright and smart person.  Thank you for the detailed message.  I had a Athlon XP once, after that I have been intel with P5k core 2 quad and my current rig.

Thank you,  I am still running 4C 4T i5 from 2011.  I am finding it very difficult to justify an upgrade right now, I really want a Ryzen system (just because), but money does not fall from the sky where I live. :(


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1 minute ago, mr moose said:

Thank you,  I am still running 4C 4T i5 from 2011.  I am finding it very difficult to justify an upgrade right now, I really want a Ryzen system (just because), but money does not fall from the sky where I live. :(

YIkes.  Your not a greedy person.  Your content.  Im content with my 7 year old system right now.


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1 hour ago, Arika S said:

whats the T normally mean?

low power profile, although not sure why the letter T... TDP?

(same with multiplier unlocked units with... K?)(and 7980XE... Xtreme Extreme?)

 

EDIT: I wonder if Intel has enough leftover pieces to do T and F units o_o (e.g. 9700TF)

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