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iPhone XR - a call for discussion

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Do you own one or do you plan on purchasing one?

 

What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it? 

 

How can Apple improve on things in the 2019 iPhones/what do you want out of the next iPhones feature, software, & hardware-wise.. 

 

(the last question sounds like a marketing question asked by an apple phone developer or something lol..) 

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4 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

Do you own one or do you plan on purchasing one?

No and no.

4 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

What do you like about it?

The camera is pretty cool.

5 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

What do you dislike about it?

It's too expensive (imo), it doesn't have user expandable storage, it runs iOS, it doesn't have a headphone jack, it doesn't have a removable battery, it has a notch, it uses the lightning port instead of a standard usb port, it doesn't have an amoled screen, extra storage comes at a significant premium.

9 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

How can Apple improve on things in the 2019 iPhones/what do you want out of the next iPhones feature, software, & hardware-wise...

Well, considering I dislike almost everything about their current models I doubt they will just make a U turn and make a completely different phone for next year.

3 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

Yep.. 

I personally don't recommend it.


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Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

Do you own one or do you plan on purchasing one?

No and No

10 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it? 

Has nothing special compared to other flagship phones, I dislike price for what I use my phone even a cheap Lenovo suffices.


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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

No and no.

The camera is pretty cool.

It's too expensive (imo), it doesn't have user expandable storage, it runs iOS, it doesn't have a headphone jack, it doesn't have a removable battery, it has a notch, it uses the lightning port instead of a standard usb port, it doesn't have an amoled screen, extra storage comes at a significant premium.

Well, considering I dislike almost everything about their current models I doubt they will just make a U turn and make a completely different phone for next year.

I personally don't recommend it.

Agree.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

Why would you buy apple there are other products better than the xr with better price tag.

What phone has better battery performance, a better camera, better UI fluidity, and more importantly, what other phone will be updated for 4+ years like the iphone xr?  

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4 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

What phone has better battery performance, a better camera, better UI fluidity, and more importantly, what other phone will be updated for 4+ years like the iphone xr?  

xiaomi mi mix 3,samsung s10e

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, ManosMax13 said:

xiaomi mi mix 3,samsung s10e

i doubt those phones will make it past 2 years of software updates.. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, ManosMax13 said:

That does not matter

Why? because most users upgrade by then? Well, i am not like most users.. I want a phone to last.. 

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Just now, zrmaxwell said:

Why? because most users upgrade by then? Well, i am not like most users.. I want a phone to last.. 

I mean the phone will work without upgrades

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5 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

That does not matter

How does software updates not matter? I expect OP to get a new phone that will last over 3 major software updates, at that point you'd want a phone with good update support.

 

You can't just say "That does not matter" to favor your suggestions more, not everyone is like you.


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Just now, seoz said:

How does software updates not matter? I expect OP to get a new phone that will last over 3 major software updates, at that point you'd want a good with good update support.

 

You can't just say "That does not matter" to favor your suggestions more, not everyone is like you.

Agree 110%

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

I mean the phone will work without upgrades

Security will be crippled on that phone & pretty much every other phone that loses update support.. 

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7 minutes ago, seoz said:

How does software updates not matter? I expect OP to get a new phone that will last over 3 major software updates, at that point you'd want a good with good update support.

 

You can't just say "That does not matter" to favor your suggestions more, not everyone is like you.

As i said getting a worse phone because the software updates will last for more is a bad choise,because the phone will work just fine without latest software.Not to mention that,

that as apple did with the iphone 6 reducing the performance,the phone might work worse with the latest updates

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4 minutes ago, zrmaxwell said:

Security will be crippled on that phone & pretty much every other phone that loses update support.. 

 

Its not worth getting a worse phone just for security updates

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2 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

As i said getting a worse phone because the software updates will last for more is a bad choise,because the phone will work just fine without latest software.Not to mention that,

that as apple did with the iphone 6 reducing the performance,the phone might work worse with the latest updates

 

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Just now, ManosMax13 said:

As i said getting a worse phone because the software updates will last for more is a bad choise,because the phone will work just fine without latest software.Not to mention that,

that as apple did with the iphone 6 reducing the performance,the phone might work worse with the latest updates

It's not a worse phone, people like iOS.

 

I have an iPhone 6s which is running iOS 12.2 and it never hiccups, and hasn't slowed down over the course of the 3 years that I've owned it. It takes a couple milliseconds more to load apps, that's the nature of running newer software on older hardware.

My Samsung Galaxy S8 on the other hand only recently got Android 9, and before that, it never received any security updates since October.

 

Newer updates provide extended user experience as well as security updates, Apple provides software updates better than everyone else.

 

I guarantee that, if OP does go for the iPhone Xr, that in 5 years or so, OP will be sitting pretty on the latest iOS, happy with the smooth-running software. It keeps the phone feeling fresh with every major update.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, ManosMax13 said:

 

Its not worth getting a worse phone just for security updates

Security & usability are what make a phone imo.. the iPhone has those aspects.. & more..

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Just now, ManosMax13 said:

Whats that?

it is the "umm" meme/gif or whatever.. don't know how to get the actual picture into a post yet..

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Just now, seoz said:

It's not a worse phone, people like iOS.

 

I have an iPhone 6s which is running iOS 12.2 and it never hiccups, and hasn't slowed down over the course of the 3 years that I've owned it. It takes a couple milliseconds more to load apps, that's the nature of running newer software on older hardware.

My Samsung Galaxy S8 on the other hand only recently got Android 9, and before that, it never received any security updates since October.

 

Newer updates provide extended user experience as well as security updates, Apple provides software updates better than everyone else.

 

I guarantee that, if OP does go for the iPhone Xr, that in 5 years or so, OP will be sitting pretty on the latest iOS, happy with the smooth-running software. It keeps the phone feeling fresh with every major update.

I dont care about ios.For that price you can get a phone with better fetures.Also apple slowed down the performance for better battery in older phones look it up

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Just now, ManosMax13 said:

I dont care about ios.For that price you can get a phone with better fetures.Also apple slowed down the performance for better battery in older phones look it up

1. That is your opinion.. 

2. they fixed it with ios 12.. 

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