Snapdragon 730, 730g and 665 release

[LukeSavenije]

Sources: @AluminiumTech, The Verge

Qualcomm has announced the Snapdragon 730, a new system-on-chip that will likely power mid-to-high-end phones later this year. Its predecessor, the 710, wound up in devices like Samsung’s Galaxy A8s and the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE, and while Qualcomm recently launched a slightly faster iteration called the 712, the 730 is a much bigger improvement.

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The 8-core Snapdragon 730 uses Kryo 470 cores at up to 2.2GHz and is built on an 8nm process. It has an Adreno 618 GPU, a Hexagon 688 processor with a tensor accelerator, a Spectra 350 “computer vision” image signal processor, an X15 LTE modem, and support for Wi-Fi 6. Many of these elements should help bring AI-powered processing and imagery to not-quite-flagship devices.

There’s also a gaming-focused version called the 730G, with a GPU clocked higher for 15-percent faster performance. The 730G will support phones with 1440p displays, up from 1080p on the regular 730, and offers 960fps slow-motion video. Qualcomm also says that it enables a “Jank Reducer” feature that is capable of “reducing janks by up to 90 percent” in 30fps games. Which, okay.

 

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Qualcomm is further announcing the Snapdragon 665 today, the followup to 2017’s 660 — though the more recent launch of the 675 in phones like the Vivo V15 Pro makes the newer chip’s differentiation a little less obvious. Like the 675, the 665 is an 8-core chip built on an 11nm process, but uses slower Kryo 260 cores and an Adreno 610 GPU. It also enables support for triple cameras and 48-megapixel sensors.

 

[ki8aras]

tf does reducing janks by up to 90 percent even mean xd

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

tf does reducing janks by up to 90 percent even mean xd

On Android, there is an additional FPS metric in the form of “janks,” which records significant changes in the draw times of consecutive frames of animation.

 

apeariently...

[GabeThePCHelper]

Wasn't the Snapdragon 8XX announced? Forgot the specific numbers, 855?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, GabeThePCHelper said:

Wasn't the Snapdragon 8XX announced? Forgot the specific numbers, 855?

855 is already out, iirc it's in the s10 America version

[GabeThePCHelper]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

855 is already out, iirc it's in the s10 America version

Ah okay, any idea why they're just releasing lower editions? Just for Phone manufactures to be able to produce Mid-High level phones?

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, GabeThePCHelper said:

Ah okay, any idea why they're just releasing lower editions? Just for Phone manufactures to be able to produce Mid-High level phones?

the 8xx generally is the highest end they make

 

I guess it's like a intel system, just with 6, 7 and 8 (mainly)

[Bananasplit_00]

Lets see if these will end up in some phones worth buying then... 710 never did

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the 8xx generally is the highest end they make

 

I guess it's like a intel system, just with 6, 7 and 8 (mainly)

They used to do 2, 4, 6 and 8 but 2 and 4 got phased out for various reasons. So they threw in 7 to bridge the gap between 6 and 8.

[GabeThePCHelper]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the 8xx generally is the highest end they make

 

I guess it's like a intel system, just with 6, 7 and 8 (mainly)

I see.

[Bouzoo]

25 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

tf does reducing janks by up to 90 percent even mean xd

 

Reduce this by 90% percent or whatever. Basically, stuttering.

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UI Rendering is the act of generating a frame from your app and displaying it on the screen. To ensure that a user's interaction with your app is smooth, your app should render frames in under 16ms to achieve 60 frames per second (why 60fps?). If your app suffers from slow UI rendering, then the system is forced to skip frames and the user will perceive stuttering in your app. We call this jank.

Source

 

 

 

 

 

My jank is high sounds much better. 

[DrMacintosh]

Wonder how it holds up against the A9 from 2015 in a Geekbench run. Probably crushes it in power consumption I bet. 

[Bouzoo]

14 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Wonder how it holds up against the A9 from 2015 in a Geekbench run. Probably crushes it in power consumption I bet. 

710 already was better than A9 in SC and, in better implementations of the SoC, on pair in MC. I expect to 730 be slightly better than even 835 honestly in CPU department. As a 835 owner it feels bad man. 

I personally am mostly hyped for new 688 DSP. I really wanna know how good it is (mostly for GCAM). 

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

710 already was better than A9 in SC and, in better implementations of the SoC, on pair in MC. I expect to 730 be slightly better than even 835 honestly in CPU department. As a 835 owner it feels bad man. 

I personally am mostly hyped for new 688 DSP. I really wanna know how good it is (mostly for GCAM). 

Sounds great.....

 

notices the A12 Bionic in the corner*

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Sounds great.....

 

notices the A12 Bionic in the corner*

laughs in gpu that actually beats an iphone x in 3dmark

 

not kidding, my mi8 with snapdragon 845 beats iphones

[Bouzoo]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sounds great.....

 

notices the A12 Bionic in the corner*

Notices a headphone jack and a proper DAC in reality lack of money but let's pretend otherwise. 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Bouzoo said:

Notices a headphone jack and a proper DAC in reality lack of money but let's pretend otherwise. 

looks at mi8

 

a headphone jack? a long time ago... in a galaxy far away

 

oh wait, wrong movie

[Bouzoo]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

looks at mi8

 

a headphone jack? a long time ago... in a galaxy far away

 

oh wait, wrong movie

Looks at his still darn good LG V30 on fucking OREO

[DrMacintosh]

10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

laughs in gpu that actually beats an iphone x in 3dmark

The A12 improved the graphics over the A11 in the iPhone X dramatically. By about 50% actually. 

 

Combined with Apple’s Metal API and industry leading developer support, there isn’t a single instance where any Android handset offers a better gaming experience :3

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The A12 improved the graphics over the A11 in the iPhone X dramatically. By about 50% actually. 

 

Combined with Apple’s Metal API and industry leading developer support, there isn’t a single instance where any Android handset offers a better gaming experience :3

hm... you have one?

 

if i got time tomorrow, i could run 3dmark on it, and see who scores higher

[r2724r16]

7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

not kidding, my mi8 with snapdragon 845 beats iphones

You need to clearly state that your Snapdragon 845 ONLY beats iPhones (which one are you even talking about?) in graphics benchmarks.

 

The A12 Bionic beats the Snapdragon 855 in both Geekbench CPU benchmarks, as well as video edting. (Source)

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

if i got time tomorrow, i could run 3dmark on it, and see who scores higher

I have an XS Max, I'll run Geekbench on it and post my results (whenever I get time).

[Trixanity]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The A12 improved the graphics over the A11 in the iPhone X dramatically. By about 50% actually. 

 

Combined with Apple’s Metal API and industry leading developer support, there isn’t a single instance where any Android handset offers a better gaming experience :3

120 hz?

[Bouzoo]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The A12 improved the graphics over the A11 in the iPhone X dramatically. By about 50% actually. 

 

Combined with Apple’s Metal API and industry leading developer support, there isn’t a single instance where any Android handset offers a better gaming experience :3

 

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... you have one?

 

if i got time tomorrow, i could run 3dmark on it, and see who scores higher

 

Or, you know... A12 vs Adreno 630. While I expected that A12 would be better, it is stuff like this that are weird:

A12

 

Adreno:

 

But I am gonna assume it has some RAM sharing or something like that. 

[DrMacintosh]

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... you have one?

 

if i got time tomorrow, i could run 3dmark on it, and see who scores higher

No, but there are plenty of benchmarks out here. But there is a reason Fortnight runs at 60fps. But I don’t really play mobile games. 

 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Trixanity said:

120 hz?

Your display can refresh at 120Hz, but your games won’t run at 120Hz because the game simply wasn’t coded to output that many frames.