Assange arrested

[RejZoR]

@Delicieuxz I've heard US is trying to sentence Assange for treason (which is still a capital punishment iirc), however, since he isn't a US citizen, he cannot be prosecuted with treason charges.

 

Besides, wouldn't it be in best interest of US government and its public to find out about corruption and coverups within the government? Deep state as some call it would hate it, but regular parts of government should actually embrace it.

[SansVarnic]

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Not Tech News.

[SolarNova]

Governments will always seek to destroy, discredit, lock up, or otherwise silence those who are actively seeking, capable, and do release 'secrets' to the world.

 

Assange was willing to publicize those secrets, and did so. So he is now a target. 'They' will do all they can to make an example to dissuade any1 else from doing the same in the future.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

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Not Tech News.

The indictment shows that the arrest is directly related to Wikileaks.  There's tons of Wikileaks-related topics (including Manning's conviction for the same crimes) in the tech news section. 

Are you going to move this one back or are you going to move all the others to off-topic as well?

[Delicieuxz]

A great series of tweets from Greenwald.

 

 

 

 

As the Obama DOJ Concluded, Prosecution of Julian Assange for Publishing Documents Poses Grave Threats to Press Freedom

The U.S. Government’s Indictment of Julian Assange Poses Grave Threats to Press Freedoms

 

 

I don't know how Assange could possibly be convicted of something the previous US government declared a threat to press freedom, and which choruses of journalists, rights groups, and the UN wrote in defence of. Maybe there's a bait-and-switch planned with the charge. Or, maybe there really is literally nothing else Assange can be found guilty of under US law.

[wasab]

He should just be like Snowden and flee to Russia. Yeah, the government isnt particularly a friend of wistleblower but they do love Western wistleblower wistleblowing Western dirt. 

[Mug]

I think it's been a huge waste of time and money and he's an utter cunt.

 

So he's wanted for a rape in Sweden? Well regardless of whether he thinks someone's trying to frame him, he needs to face justice for that, what a coward. 

 

Then he's also wanted in the US for being a twat too, he exposed so much military data man, literally getting people killed for what he saw was good. He needs to face justice for it if he committed a crime. If there was no crime that's also ok, but he needs a trial. What a cluster fuck this has been.

[Delicieuxz]

1 hour ago, Mug said:

So he's wanted for a rape in Sweden?

No. He isn't.

 

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he exposed so much military data man, literally getting people killed for what he saw was good.

No. Nobody has died and there have been no vital threats against anyone as a result of the documents WikiLeaks has released. However, there has been extensive harm to people, including people killed, caused by the activities exposed in the documents WikiLeaks has released.

 

 

 

 

[Andreas Lilja]

5 hours ago, wasab said:

He should just be like Snowden and flee to Russia. Yeah, the government isnt particularly a friend of wistleblower but they do love Western wistleblower wistleblowing Western dirt. 

Already plenty of dirt on Putin.

 

Plus Russia isn't self-righteous.

[MrFixitBlankFace]

Assange was a genius.

 

That's all he was.

And because the people couldn't stop his incredible skill, they had to resort to arrest him.

 

ps. They'll probably use him to get information themselves.

[wasab]

1 hour ago, MrFixitBlankFace said:

Assange was a genius.

 

That's all he was.

And because the people couldn't stop his incredible skill, they had to resort to arrest him.

 

ps. They'll probably use him to get information themselves.

He was accused of rape.... 

And he doesn't clean up after his own cat and felt entitle to the point he complains to the Ecuadorian embassy officials it is his freedoms and right not to pay for his internet service. 

[wasab]

There is no crime for journalism but hacking into computers and stealing secrets is another. I am fairly certain you would find it criminal if your spouse/partner is to hack into your computer to expose you as a cheater, even if you did indeed cheat. 

[Noctus]

1 hour ago, wasab said:

He was accused of rape.... 

Right, accused.

 

 

[MrFixitBlankFace]

15 hours ago, wasab said:

 He was accused of rape...

FISHY

 

 

He hardly left his apartment.  He couldn't leave his apartment with all the information he had.

 

PS. I know he was crazy

[wasab]

9 hours ago, MrFixitBlankFace said:

FISHY

 

 

He hardly left his apartment.  He couldn't leave his apartment with all the information he had.

 

PS. I know he was crazy

He was accused of rape 7 years ago and he avoided trial by hiding in the embassy for years

[Master Delta Chief]

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Mug said:

I think it's been a huge waste of time and money and he's an utter cunt.

 

So he's wanted for a rape in Sweden? Well regardless of whether he thinks someone's trying to frame him, he needs to face justice for that, what a coward. 

 

Then he's also wanted in the US for being a twat too, he exposed so much military data man, literally getting people killed for what he saw was good. He needs to face justice for it if he committed a crime. If there was no crime that's also ok, but he needs a trial. What a cluster fuck this has been.

I think that he should be extradited to Sweden so that he can show up in their court regarding the allegations that were put on him. He should co-operate with the investigation if he wants to prove his innocence. But nevertheless, the information he published on Wikileaks is in my opinion a good thing he did to expose the government of it's dark past. However, that doesn't mean these acts were out of good will necessarily. 

[wasab]

20 hours ago, Noctus said:

Right, accused.

 

 

If he is innocent, why would he refuse a proper trial in Sweden?

[Delicieuxz]

22 hours ago, wasab said:

He was accused of rape 7 years ago and he avoided trial by hiding in the embassy for years

He was accused of not using a condom despite being told to use one.

 

He wasn't facing a trial as no charges were made.

 

16 hours ago, wasab said:

If he is innocent, why would he refuse a proper trial in Sweden?

Playing dumb?

 

Not only did the Swedish investigation not lead to any charges, but everybody knows Assange went to the Ecuadorian embassy because the US was wanting to have him extradited to the US to be charged with stuff relating to WikiLeaks disclosures, Sweden would likely have him extradited to the US. And Assange lost his case in the UK against extradition to Sweden.

 

Despite Assange offering to be interviewed by Swedish authorities in the Ecuadorian embassy since 2012, the UK government was telling Sweden to not interview Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy in London because London wanted to arrest him, which we can see was to hand him over to the US. And Sweden agreed.

 

Everything has turned out to be exactly how Assange and his defenders said it was.

[wasab]

1 hour ago, Delicieuxz said:

He was accused of not using a condom despite being told to use one.

 

And have sex with a woman who was asleep and couldn't give consent. 

 

No charges were made. What???

[Noctus]

31 minutes ago, wasab said:

And have sex with a woman who was asleep and couldn't give consent. 

 

No charges were made. What???

One of them continued to let him stay at her home after the alleged incident. Nah sorry, not buying it. 

[wasab]

15 minutes ago, Noctus said:

One of them continued to let him stay at her home after the alleged incident. Nah sorry, not buying it. 

You do know many victims of abuse stay with their abusers for years right?

[Delicieuxz]

22 minutes ago, wasab said:

And have sex with a woman who was asleep and couldn't give consent. 

 

No charges were made. What???

Correct. The investigation did not lead to any charges, meaning the investigation did not conclude that there was any rape.

[wasab]

4 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Correct. The investigation did not lead to any charges, meaning the investigation did not conclude that there was any rape.

Only because he was hiding inside the embassy. 

[Delicieuxz]

14 minutes ago, wasab said:

Only because he was hiding inside the embassy. 

Utterly False. The ability to lay charges is not dependent upon a person being present, charges can be laid at any time. If charges are not laid, it's because evidence hasn't accumulated to the point that reasonable confidence in the allegations has been established.

 

Swedish investigators were invited to interview Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy since 2011, but were requested by the UK government to not do so because they wanted to keep the pretext of extradition to Sweden available so they could arrest him if he leaves the embassy.

 

 

In about-face, Sweden offers to question Assange in London

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On Friday, Swedish prosecutors reversed their long refusal to question Assange inside his London bolt hole, citing the five-year statute of limitations on some of the allegations against him.

 

One of Assange's defense lawyers, Per Samuelson, called the about-face "a great victory for Julian Assange," and indicated the 43-year-old Australian would likely agree to be questioned.

 

"This is something we've demanded for over four years," Samuelson told The Associated Press after speaking to Assange on Friday. "Julian Assange wants to be interviewed so he can be exonerated."

 

UK resisted Julian Assange’s offer to be questioned in London, emails reveal

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Emails obtained by Italian news magazine L’Espresso under the Freedom of Information Act showed that Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service wrote to the Swedish authorities in 2011, saying it would “not be prudent” for them to interview Assange in the UK.

 

“Any attempt to interview him under strict Swedish law would invariably be fraught with problems,” said one email, dated 25 January 2011. Another email dated 13 January 2011 said: “Please do not think that the case is being dealt with as just another extradition request.”

 

Assange said: “This is astonishing. I have been on the phone with my lawyers all morning and they are as shocked as I am.”

 

The Swedish investigation was deceitfully designed to avoid resolving it so that the UK could maintain a pretext to arrest Assange.

[wasab]

Just now, Delicieuxz said:

Utterly False. The ability to lay charges is not dependent upon a person being present. Charges can be laid at any time. If charges are not laid, it's because evidence hasn't accumulated to the point that reasonable confidence in the allegations have been established.

 

Hiding inside an embassy in a foreign country does make it awfully inconvenient to gather evidences doesn't it. 

 

Btw, Swedish authorities did issues an international warrant for his arrest.