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2 hours ago, wasab said:

unwilling to trust the justice system is either 

1) the system is corrupt

2) you are actually guilty

 

Over here in the US, I believe in the latter.

I feel like I'm being punked.

 

In what way do you see shrouded and trumped-up accusations meant to lock someone away regardless of what truth and justice are as reflecting anything other than corruption on the part of the accuser?

 

The US "justice" system is extremely corrupt with for-profit prisons, judges selling black people to jails (because imprisoning people is a for-profit business in the US), militarized gun-happy police, elected judges who pay their way into their position, Supreme Court judges being appointed along political party lines, the world's worst incarceration rate (because imprisoning people is a for-profit business in the US), being able to buy more lenient jail sentences and nicer jail cells, black people convicted at a disproportionate rate to white people and receiving harsher sentencing than white people, war criminals and bankers who cause financial crises walking fee without consequence for their crimes, innocent and vulnerable people targeted by the system...

 

Anyone with some knowledge on the matter knows that the US justice system is extremely corrupt. And even when a justice system isn't corrupt, it's absurd to think that someone wouldn't care about being subjected to baseless or unjust accusations that could carry heavy penalties, especially when those accusations are coming from someone who desperately wants revenge for having their dirty deeds exposed.

 

Further, what awaits Assange in the US isn't the US' public justice system, but a secret espionage court that exists outside of the normal justice system.

 

Your view will probably mature a lot beyond a 2-dimensional perspective once you get some experience in the real world.

 

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Also, guys like him tend to go around in western democracies, most of who are allies of the US and have extradition treaties with the US government.

"Guys like him"... as in, Westerners?

 

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If he desires sympathy in his goal of exposing corrupt governments and atrocities, he can go work for human rights watch and leak secret information from north Korea or something. Why does he want to leak something from western democracies which put the lives of countless anti-terrorism operatives and military personnel at risk? 

So, not only do you not care what the truth is, but you also don't care about justice. You just want to take down other societies which you regard as opposing teams to your own, while whitewashing your own 'team''s offences.

 

WikiLeaks' reveals so far haven't put anybody at risk.

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4 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

 

The US "justice" system is extremely corrupt with for-profit prisons, judges selling black people to jails (because imprisoning people is a for-profit business in the US), militarized gun-happy police, elected judges who pay their way into their position, Supreme Court judges being appointed along political party lines, the world's worst incarceration rate (because imprisoning people is a for-profit business in the US), being able to buy more lenient jail sentences and nicer jail cells, black people convicted at a disproportionate rate to white people and receiving harsher sentencing than white people, war criminals and bankers who cause financial crises walking fee without consequence for their crimes, innocent and vulnerable people targeted by the system...

 

 

Well, Assange isn't black so your argument is invalid. Plus, racism in court works in reverse too. Plenty of blacks walk away as freemen for murders because the jury(full of black jurors) turned against white officers and sided with the defendents due to racial reasons. Look at the case of O.J. Simpson. That guy was so smug, he even wrote a book how he committed the crime and got away with it. 


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7 hours ago, wasab said:

You do know many victims of abuse stay with their abusers for years right?

You do know he was visiting for w/e political reason and it was a PARTY right? And she allowed him to stay AFTER the party for several days, right? Even though he more than likely had other places to actually stay for the duration of his trip? They weren't husband and wife or dating, therefore im not buying it.

6 hours ago, bradwiggo said:

How would the conclusion of the investigation mean people wouldn't want him extradited? 

Because as said by other's on the net and what i believe, it's a honeypot. Designed to get him in their hands so he can be sent across the water. The Embassy move had stopped that from happening. What other actual logical reason did they stop the investigation for if all they had to do was walk into the embassy, interview him, then leave. It's a joke.


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3 hours ago, Noctus said:

You do know he was visiting for w/e political reason and it was a PARTY right? And she allowed him to stay AFTER the party for several days, right? Even though he more than likely had other places to actually stay for the duration of his trip? They weren't husband and wife or dating, therefore im not buying it.

 

Yeah? Then he would have no problem of going to Sweden for a full investigation now would he? After he serves his sentence in the US for leaking classified documents that is. 


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9 hours ago, wasab said:

If he desires sympathy in his goal of exposing corrupt governments and atrocities, he can go work for human rights watch and leak secret information from north Korea or something. Why does he want to leak something from western democracies which put the lives of countless anti-terrorism operatives and military personnel at risk?  

Wait ... what?

 

He leaked all kinds of info on several governments, not just the US.  The fact of the matter is that the US simply has more to hide and hence has a lot more info to leak.

 

Stop thinking that the US are the good guys, they're far from it. 

Good guys don't support dictators, don't fund and train terrorist organizations, don't sell arms to human rights abusers, don't drone strike their own citizens without trial or even an attempt to apprehend them, don't knowingly kill journalists, don't upset the entire middle east by overthrowing regimes they don't agree with under the guise of "bringing democracy", don't start wars under false pretenses, don't have overseas prisons where people can be indefinitely detained and tortured without trial, etc etc

 

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8 hours ago, Captain Chaos said:

Wait ... what?

 

He leaked all kinds of info on several governments, not just the US.  The fact of the matter is that the US simply has more to hide and hence has a lot more info to leak.

 

Stop thinking that the US are the good guys, they're far from it. 

Good guys don't support dictators, don't fund and train terrorist organizations, don't sell arms to human rights abusers, don't drone strike their own citizens without trial or even an attempt to apprehend them, don't knowingly kill journalists, don't upset the entire middle east by overthrowing regimes they don't agree with under the guise of "bringing democracy", don't start wars under false pretenses, don't have overseas prisons where people can be indefinitely detained and tortured without trial, etc etc

 

And? 

Did the names of 250,000 military personel and intelligence agents leaked by Manning and published on wikileaks helped stopping dictators and terrorists? I bet these guys family can sleep easy knowing Taliban has their names while they are on foreign soil combating terrorists. 


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6 hours ago, floofer said:

Looks like Ecuador is after him now. Pretty meritable stuff too, engaging in these hacking sort of activities while in the embassy.

Ecuador is 100% pro whistleblowers, until the whistleblowers start hacking its own government and published it's state secrets. 


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25 minutes ago, wasab said:

Did the names of 250,000 military personel and intelligence agents leaked by Manning and published on wikileaks helped stopping dictators and terrorists? I bet these guys family can sleep easy knowing Taliban has their names while they are on foreign soil combating terrorists.

At least they can still sleep, unlike the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in the wars that the US started.

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1 hour ago, Captain Chaos said:

At least they can still sleep, unlike the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in the wars that the US started.

Yeah? Civilians can sleep easy while Talibans and ISIS are terrorizing the country side? During WWII, the allies were known to deliberately carpet bomb the Axis civilians. Today, we are complaining about a few misguided drone strikes?


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9 minutes ago, wasab said:

Yeah? Civilians can sleep easy while Talibans and ISIS are terrorizing the country side? During WWII, the allies were known to deliberately carpet bomb the Axis civilians. Today, we are complaining about a few misguided drone strikes?

Who do you think created ISIS?

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13 minutes ago, wasab said:

Civilians can sleep easy while Talibans and Isis are terrorizing the country side?

And whose fault is that?  Who has been meddling in the entire middle east, creating power vacuums that are perfect for such organizations?

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3 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

And whose fault is that?  Who has been meddling in the entire middle east, creating power vacuums that are perfect for such organizations?

For Talibans? The soviets of course. 

The ISIS? Arab spring. 


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49 minutes ago, wasab said:

For Talibans? The soviets of course. 

The ISIS? Arab spring. 

Close ... but no cigar


ISIS was no threat whatsoever until the 2003 invasion if Iraq.  After that war they swore loyalty to Bin Laden.  Remember him?  He's the guy from Al-Qaida, the guys originally trained and funded by the CIA to fight the Soviets.  That's when sh*t started to hit the fan.

The Arab Spring started in late 2010.  By that time ISIS were quite big already.  They basically took over from Al-Qaida in late 2007 - early 2008.

 

As for the Taliban, you're close but not quite close enough.  They were helped by Pakistan, who at that point were pretty pissed about US embargoes against them because of their nuclear program.  (the US didn't have a problem with India having one, probably due to economic reasons).

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1 hour ago, wasab said:

For Talibans? The soviets of course. 

The ISIS? Arab spring. 

 

Wrong answer.

 

 

How the U.S. Created Al-Qaeda In 1979 - while speaking to the Mujahideen in Pakistan, President Carter’s National Security Advisor told the Jihadist group, “your cause is right, and God is on your side.”

Blowback: How Isis Was Created by the U.S. Invasion of Iraq

 

 

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We finally know what Hillary Clinton knew all along – US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Isis

 

 

The US even helped the Nazis and Hitler rise to power, and supported the Nazis well into WW2. Hitler’s anti-Jew crusade was inspired by Henry Ford’s anti-Jew publications:

 

In 1938, Henry Ford was given the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, an award created by Hitler and the highest honour Nazi Germany could give to any foreigner. From 1920 to 1927 Henry Ford ran anti-Jewish articles in his newspaper in the US, and they were released in Germany under the title “The International Jew, the World’s Foremost Problem”.

 

More information.

 

In 1931, Hitler said he regarded Ford as his “inspiration”, and kept a life-size portrait of Ford next to his desk. Author Steven Watts wrote that Hitler “revered” Ford, proclaiming that “I shall do my best to put his theories into practice in Germany”.

 

The holocaust was a US design, carried out by proxy via Hitler's Nazis.

 

 

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

 

"The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military capabilities.... Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)--with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States."

 

GM / Opel was supplying Germany with vehicles until the Autumn of 1940.

Standard Oil was shipping 13,000 of tons of crude oil to Germany each month.

Ford was supplying Germany with rubber and tires until losing control of its factories to the Nazis after the Pearl Harbour attack in December, 1941.

Prescott Bush continued profiting from business dealings with Nazi Germany until his assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

 

It is entirely probable that WW2 would have not happened if the US hadn’t contributed to Hitler’s ideology and rise, and to the Nazis’ war machine. And so, WW2 itself was in large part a creation of the US.

 

 

“If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible …”

 

- Harry Truman, 1941

 

 

Despite the domestic propaganda that conditions US people to think that the US is some just and noble force, everything the US does on the global stage is done simply for money or power, and funding fascists, dictators, and terrorists is actually the normal method of operation for the US - which is why Assange's and WikiLeaks' exposing the true nature of US operations in the US and elsewhere is so critical for the world.

 

 

Former US diplomat and foreign policy adviser, Jim Jatras:

 

"Of course we are a sponsor of terrorism. For us to say the Iranians are sponsoring terrorists... Look, a lot of countries use terrorists as a means of policy, so there's a certain 'pot and kettle, black' issue here. But, for us to say Iran's the prime sponsor of terrorism when we and our friends, particularly the Saudis, are front and centre on that is grotesque, actually."

 

 

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1 hour ago, wasab said:

During WWII, the allies were known to deliberately carpet bomb the Axis civilians.

During WWII, everyone carpet bombed everyone. I don't think we should take it as a shining example of normality. It's a bit like saying that you shouldn't complain about being hit by a car because "at least" the driver didn't reverse to make sure you were dead, didn't go find your family to roadkill them too and didn't burn down your entire neighborhood.

 

Furthermore, while the US is drone striking these places, those nations have no means to respond in kind, unlike the axis in WWII (the US was still in an advantageous position because of the ocean btw).


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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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2 hours ago, Captain Chaos said:

Close ... but no cigar


ISIS was no threat whatsoever until the 2003 invasion if Iraq.  After that war they swore loyalty to Bin Laden.  Remember him?  He's the guy from Al-Qaida, the guys originally trained and funded by the CIA to fight the Soviets.  That's when sh*t started to hit the fan.

The Arab Spring started in late 2010.  By that time ISIS were quite big already.  They basically took over from Al-Qaida in late 2007 - early 2008.

 

As for the Taliban, you're close but not quite close enough.  They were helped by Pakistan, who at that point were pretty pissed about US embargoes against them because of their nuclear program.  (the US didn't have a problem with India having one, probably due to economic reasons).

This is like tracing the cause of Nazism all the way back to Adolf Hitler's ancestors from thousands of years ago and blaming them for starting WWII. 

 

No, Taliban exists because of commies that coup the moderate Afghan constitutiona monarchy. 

 

ISIS happens because Arab spring destabilizes Middle East. 

 

Finally, Iran turned to radical again because of commies who tried to nationalize the oil fields. 

 

Everything is either

1) commie

2) commie sponsoring terrorism

 

 

 


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2 hours ago, Sauron said:

During WWII, everyone carpet bombed everyone. I don't think we should take it as a shining example of normality. It's a bit like saying that you shouldn't complain about being hit by a car because "at least" the driver didn't reverse to make sure you were dead, didn't go find your family to roadkill them too and didn't burn down your entire neighborhood.

 

Furthermore, while the US is drone striking these places, those nations have no means to respond in kind, unlike the axis in WWII (the US was still in an advantageous position because of the ocean btw).

What you talking about? Terrorists can respond regardless if there is an ocean in between . 9/11 happens on American soil. 


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2 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

 

Wrong answer.

 

 

How the U.S. Created Al-Qaeda In 1979 - while speaking to the Mujahideen in Pakistan, President Carter’s National Security Advisor told the Jihadist group, “your cause is right, and God is on your side.”

Blowback: How Isis Was Created by the U.S. Invasion of Iraq

 

 

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1067687156_Theoriginalmoderaterebel.jpg.e6858c696088764285e4743d9536aa1d.jpg

 

 

We finally know what Hillary Clinton knew all along – US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Isis

 

 

The US even helped the Nazis and Hitler rise to power, and supported the Nazis well into WW2. Hitler’s anti-Jew crusade was inspired by Henry Ford’s anti-Jew publications:

 

In 1938, Henry Ford was given the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, an award created by Hitler and the highest honour Nazi Germany could give to any foreigner. From 1920 to 1927 Henry Ford ran anti-Jewish articles in his newspaper in the US, and they were released in Germany under the title “The International Jew, the World’s Foremost Problem”.

 

More information.

 

In 1931, Hitler said he regarded Ford as his “inspiration”, and kept a life-size portrait of Ford next to his desk. Author Steven Watts wrote that Hitler “revered” Ford, proclaiming that “I shall do my best to put his theories into practice in Germany”.

 

The holocaust was a US design, carried out by proxy via Hitler's Nazis.

 

 

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

 

"The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military capabilities.... Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)--with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States."

 

GM / Opel was supplying Germany with vehicles until the Autumn of 1940.

Standard Oil was shipping 13,000 of tons of crude oil to Germany each month.

Ford was supplying Germany with rubber and tires until losing control of its factories to the Nazis after the Pearl Harbour attack in December, 1941.

Prescott Bush continued profiting from business dealings with Nazi Germany until his assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

 

It is entirely probable that WW2 would have not happened if the US hadn’t contributed to Hitler’s ideology and rise, and to the Nazis’ war machine. And so, WW2 itself was in large part a creation of the US.

 

 

“If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible …”

 

- Harry Truman, 1941

 

 

Despite the domestic propaganda that conditions US people to think that the US is some just and noble force, everything the US does on the global stage is done simply for money or power, and funding fascists, dictators, and terrorists is actually the normal method of operation for the US - which is why Assange's and WikiLeaks' exposing the true nature of US operations in the US and elsewhere is so critical for the world.

 

 

Former US diplomat and foreign policy adviser, Jim Jatras:

 

"Of course we are a sponsor of terrorism. For us to say the Iranians are sponsoring terrorists... Look, a lot of countries use terrorists as a means of policy, so there's a certain 'pot and kettle, black' issue here. But, for us to say Iran's the prime sponsor of terrorism when we and our friends, particularly the Saudis, are front and centre on that is grotesque, actually."

 

 

Sure just like Adolf Hitler's mom ought to take credit and be blamed for mass murder of 6 million Jews. Jesus Christ. 

 

I don't care if the Nazis drew their inspiration for the Holocaust from American Eurgencis or ethnic cleansing of the Native American tribes. The political factors, economic situations, and historical grievances within Germany at that time were the actual catalyst for the rise of Nazism, not outside factors from foreign sources. Don't go historical revisionism and point fingers elsewhere. 

 


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Just now, wasab said:

Terrorists can respond regardless if there is an ocean in between. 9/11 happens on American soil. 

Terrorists aren't a national army and bombing middle eastern civilians doesn't hinder them in any way; most terrorists aren't even born in the countries the US is bombarding. The group that was responsible for 9/11 was originally formed and trained by the US. Not to mention that, while 9/11 was horrible, the wars waged by the US using that as a pretext (with the actual goal of controlling oil rich territories) since then have caused orders of magnitude more casualties. In short, if the US could mind its own frigging business, 99% of these atrocities could have been avoided.


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Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Terrorists aren't a national army and bombing middle eastern civilians doesn't hinder them in any way; most terrorists aren't even born in the countries the US is bombarding. The group that was responsible for 9/11 was originally formed and trained by the US. Not to mention that, while 9/11 was horrible, the wars waged by the US using that as a pretext (with the actual goal of controlling oil rich territories) since then have caused orders of magnitude more casualties. In short, if the US could mind its own frigging business, 99% of these atrocities could have been avoided.

Taliban hides the terrorists. Why you have an issue with bombing them? Taliban insurgents mixed in with the civilian populations and fight just like guerilla. It is an enemy without uniform. You do not have to be a nation or an army to fight a freaking war. Talibans and other guerillas groups literally fought the entire war against the Soviet army. 

 

If the US minds it's own business, the entire Europe would either be under German Nazism or stalinsts communism by the end of 1950s, the entire Pacific and east Asia would be under Japanese imperialism. 

 

And who knows how many more hijacking and bombings would occur by terrorists funded by leftists/radical governments such as Gaddafi Libya or Taliban Afghanistan?  


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27 minutes ago, wasab said:

Sure just like Adolf Hitler's mom ought to take credit and be blamed for mass murder of 6 million Jews. Jesus Christ. 

Only if Hitler said that he murdered 6 million Jews because his mom's anti-Jew propaganda inspired him to. And if his mom created and disseminated anti-Jew propaganda that was Hitler's inspiration for the holocaust, then she would indeed be to blame for it. Obviously.

 

Henry Ford, you know, the US businessman who started the Ford vehicle company, published anti-Jew articles, and Hitler, who was friends with Ford, said Ford's articles were his inspiration:

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From 1920 to 1927 Henry Ford ran anti-Jewish articles in his newspaper in the US, and they were released in Germany under the title “The International Jew, the World’s Foremost Problem”.

 

In 1931, Hitler said he regarded Ford as his “inspiration”, and kept a life-size portrait of Ford next to his desk. Author Steven Watts wrote that Hitler “revered” Ford, proclaiming that “I shall do my best to put his theories into practice in Germany”.

 

Literally, the holocaust occurred because of anti-Jew ideas born and advocated in the US.

 

Just think: Every time you buy a Ford vehicle, you are giving money to the company that caused the holocaust.

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5 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Only if Hitler said that he murdered 6 million Jews because his mom inspired him to.

 

Henry Ford, you know, the US businessman who started the Ford vehicle company, published anti-Jew articles, and Hitler, who was friends with Ford, said Ford's articles were his inspiration:

 

Literally, the holocaust was an idea born in the US.

You are tracing back causes to places where it just doesn't make sense. Your argument is nothing sort of a slippery slope. We can trace everything back to the dawn of humanities and blame human civilization for fascism, slavery, genocide by your logic. 

 

Anti semitism isn't exclusive to the US. Europeans had periodic periods of Jewish pogroms well before the Nazis and discovery of new worlds.

 

 


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