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Survey claims 86 percent of US teens plan to choose iPhone as next smartphone

9 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

There is still a very significant number of non-NFC terminals where MST would actually make Apple pay a"reliable" option (e.g. you wouldn't have to hunt around the terminal for an NFC badge which may or may not exist and may or may not be accurate).

That’s why I said EMV chip readers. I think most terminals have both MST and EMV. 

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Not surprised at all. Teens are either brainwashed, see the Apple as their cult leader or have no idea there are more different phones than only iPhone. Teens should focus more on their school and future than only bragging about their phones. (Yes, phones)

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2 minutes ago, captain_to_fire said:

That’s why I said EMV chip readers. I think most terminals have both MST and EMV. 

A lot still don't have EMV, but my main point is that MST would enable Apple pay to work ubiquitously whereas now, it's still kind of a nuisance.

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Guys, it kinda makes sense though. For alot of companies, you can just get into a 2 year contract and just either make payments or even have nothing increasing your bill depending on the iphone model. If its a slighty older model it would be worth it for them.

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44 minutes ago, Kenji the Uke said:

Guys, it kinda makes sense though. For alot of companies, you can just get into a 2 year contract and just either make payments or even have nothing increasing your bill depending on the iphone model. If its a slighty older model it would be worth it for them.

No, you're wrong. 

 

It's very obvious that anyone who wants an iPhone is a brainwashed spoiled brat teen. No one else could possibly want that garbage.

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, BuckGup said:

No I was saying there is more reasons than it's an iPhone to use one 

More of a reason for me to not use an iphone if it's an iPhone. Still haven't figure out how to connect an iPhone to my Linux computer to transfer files yet

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11 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Nah, teens with new S10+ are spoiled brats as well. 

Problem is, that meme was made back when most of phones were somewhat reasonably priced, not just trying to catch Apple in price gauging.

Positive news? If you consider fishy survey with questionable methodology as positive news, I got bad news for you

 

In that case they would be planning to buy OG Nokia 3310. Smart phones guarantee no privacy, regardless if it is Apple or not

If you use internet, it is gurantees you have no privacy just like if you are to talk to someone, you have no privacy. We know who you are.

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http://www.piperjaffray.com/3col.aspx?id=5552

 

Original source seems to be above. I was curious how they did it, and it seems the masses are not worthy of their full report, just the headline grabbing statements. It does say the people they asked averaged 16.3 years and had $2600/year spending power. I don't know about you, but even allowing for inflation I don't think I had anything near $2600 to spend when I was 16. If you argued how much value in items I got from my parents, that would be much more difficult to quantify.

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1 hour ago, porina said:

http://www.piperjaffray.com/3col.aspx?id=5552

 

Original source seems to be above. I was curious how they did it, and it seems the masses are not worthy of their full report, just the headline grabbing statements. It does say the people they asked averaged 16.3 years and had $2600/year spending power. I don't know about you, but even allowing for inflation I don't think I had anything near $2600 to spend when I was 16. If you argued how much value in items I got from my parents, that would be much more difficult to quantify.

I worked for lacoste back in 2004 when i was 16, before tax @ 20 hrs a week i made £2880/yr if google is correct for the working wage of 16yr olds back then. Not unlikely for kids in USA to have 2600$/yr considering going by todays min wage i'd make £4,368 @ 20hrs/week. Just a matter of saving cash i guess, do-able. Though the survey is sketch as fuck.

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6 hours ago, CTR640 said:

Not surprised at all. Teens are either brainwashed, see the Apple as their cult leader or have no idea there are more different phones than only iPhone. Teens should focus more on their school and future than only bragging about their phones. (Yes, phones)

Please, let's not pretend that they're choosing iPhones (assuming the study is accurate) because they don't know better.  I'm sure that's the case for some, but they're likely making a more informed choice than you think.

 

That and I always find it ironic when people insist that iPhone owners are cultists... and then encourage them to adopt Android, the dominant platform dictated by corporations that make Apple look like a counterculture rebel.  It's like arguing that real indie music fans only listen to top 40 pop.  Go, go, status quo!

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20 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

8,600 teens from across the country, found that a whopping 86% of them planned to have their next smartphone be an iPhone

Thats not a lot to be honest as a survey  but oh well 

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6 hours ago, CTR640 said:

Not surprised at all. Teens are either brainwashed, see the Apple as their cult leader or have no idea there are more different phones than only iPhone. Teens should focus more on their school and future than only bragging about their phones. (Yes, phones)

You're telling me that because of this survey you think teenagers are either brainwashed, want to belong to a cult or want a certain brand of phone, all that from from one survey severely limited in scope? If you'd actually read past the headline of this post, you would've noticed that the kids surveyed spent the overwhelming majority of their screen time on YouTube, Snapchat, Insta and other forms of e-social. All iPhones 6-XI are good to excellent for both use cases.

 

Not only that, you make the conclusion that teens are too focused on what phone they want and not school and career because....you've just seen the results of a survey that asked them what phone they want. The survey did not ask anything on their priorities in life and if they valued gadgets over their education.

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I've only used Android, but honestly wouldn't care if I was on an iphone because to me at the end of the day it is just a phone. People have always said to me "OH BUT YOU CAN DO THIS ON ANDROID AND CAN'T DO IT ON AN IPHONE!" So? If I only use my smartphone for FaceBook Messenger and calling people, what difference does being on Iphone/Android make. Personally security and privacy has started to mean more to me which is why I would consider trying an iPhone.

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1 hour ago, Noctus said:

I worked for lacoste back in 2004 when i was 16, before tax @ 20 hrs a week i made £2880/yr if google is correct for the working wage of 16yr olds back then. Not unlikely for kids in USA to have 2600$/yr considering going by todays min wage i'd make £4,368 @ 20hrs/week. Just a matter of saving cash i guess, do-able. Though the survey is sketch as fuck.

Nice. When I was 16, I was still in school. I can't recall but I might have been conscripted into helping out at the family business, but my income was practically zero outside of gifts.

 

The thing about surveys like this is, you have to consider who they asked. Did they specifically seek out a balanced representation of the whole of the US, or was it just whoever they could get? The infographic does say they surveyed 47 states so they're missing a few for whatever reason. They also say the gender ratio was 54% male, 46% female. Now, if they know the sample isn't unbiased, they could try to calculate it out, but without more detail it is unknown if they even tried. Worst case, they just asked 8000 relatively well off teens and got the claimed result. Not necessarily wrong, but we have to be careful about how to read into it.

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28 minutes ago, porina said:

Nice. When I was 16, I was still in school. I can't recall but I might have been conscripted into helping out at the family business, but my income was practically zero outside of gifts.

 

The thing about surveys like this is, you have to consider who they asked. Did they specifically seek out a balanced representation of the whole of the US, or was it just whoever they could get? The infographic does say they surveyed 47 states so they're missing a few for whatever reason. They also say the gender ratio was 54% male, 46% female. Now, if they know the sample isn't unbiased, they could try to calculate it out, but without more detail it is unknown if they even tried. Worst case, they just asked 8000 relatively well off teens and got the claimed result. Not necessarily wrong, but we have to be careful about how to read into it.

I was still in school myself, was pretty fun having "all that cash" compared to my friends. 

 

Knowing what most surveys are like, it's most likely skewed to those already owning an iphone or the "im cool cos i have an iphone" crowd.... which is more the case with the average kid, since status is what it's all about. Regardless of what people say in this thread, the Rule of Cool is what dictates most kids decisions.

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6 hours ago, 79wjd said:

No, you're wrong. 

 

It's very obvious that anyone who wants an iPhone is a brainwashed spoiled brat teen. No one else could possibly want that garbage.

 

 

 

 

/s

It really isnt a bad phone tho. Atleast my iphone 7+. Over priced? Yeah. Solid system updates, and my phone is still usable after 2 years. Are the current phones good enough to upgrade to? Not really. Is apple as a company good? Hell no. But strictly the product isnt bad.

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1 hour ago, Kenji the Uke said:

It really isnt a bad phone tho. Atleast my iphone 7+. Over priced? Yeah. Solid system updates, and my phone is still usable after 2 years. Are the current phones good enough to upgrade to? Not really. Is apple as a company good? Hell no. But strictly the product isnt bad.

I'd recommend checking out the last line of that post you quoted. 

 

iPhones aren't all that overpriced when compared to flagships as a whole; flagships in general are overpriced as they offer diminishing returns over budget phones. Like any product stack, flagships do still serve a purpose and are often the only way to get *insert combination of features here*.

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On 4/8/2019 at 7:13 PM, r2724r16 said:

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Need to add "completely uninformed" to that.

 

This makes me sad. Apple needs to be going down in popularity, not up.

 

11 hours ago, BuckGup said:

No I was saying there is more reasons than it's an iPhone to use one 

10 years worth of bad customer service, lies, deceitful business practices, and overall terrible hardware design?

 

I still fail to understand how anyone with internet access is actually willing to buy an Apple product. They're blatantly garbage from a hardware standpoint.

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6 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Need to add "completely uninformed" to that.

 

This makes me sad. Apple needs to be going down in popularity, not up.

The picture was just a joke.

 

I'm honestly an Apple fanboy. I use their products, and I like them.

 

And despite what the small percentage of "informed" people may say, Apple will go up in popularity, not down.

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Just now, r2724r16 said:

The picture was just a joke.

 

I'm honestly an Apple fanboy. I use their products, and I like them.

 

And despite what the small percentage of "informed" people may say, Apple will go up in popularity, not down.

This saddens me.

 

And a lot of us "informed" people are the ones who work on those products, as well as products from other manufacturers.

 

And after what I've seen? I'd be far more likely to buy from any other major OEM. Dell, Lenovo, HP, etc.

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Just now, Trik'Stari said:

Need to add "completely uninformed" to that.

 

This makes me sad. Apple needs to be going down in popularity, not up.

 

10 years worth of bad customer service, lies, deceitful business practices, and overall terrible hardware design?

 

I still fail to understand how anyone with internet access is actually willing to buy an Apple product. They're blatantly garbage from a hardware standpoint.

Lol wait what. Their SoCs are over year ahead of any Android on the market

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12 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Lol wait what. Their SoCs are over year ahead of any Android on the market

I assume you mean "system on a chip".

 

I guess if you want things incredibly fragile and lacking in features that other phones have had for 10 years or so?

Ketchup is better than mustard.

GUI is better than Command Line Interface.

Dubs are better than subs

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Just now, Trik'Stari said:

I assume you mean "system on a chip".

 

I guess if you want things incredibly fragile and lacking in features that other phones have had for 10 years or so?

Lol what are you on about? Apple products aren't perfect but that's just a bias statement. 

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