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Internet, Now with Free Amazon Prime - Amazon to enter the ISP game with Project Kuiper satellite broadband

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Amazon has made a filling to put 3,236 satellites in low earth orbit to provide low-latency high speed broadband

 

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Amazon is officially joining the race to create...satellites in low...orbit that will provide high-speed...internet. The company has filed its first papers with the U.S. government for approval to launch a network of 3,236 satellites. “Project Kuiper is a new initiative to launch a constellation of Low Earth Orbit satellites that will provide low-latency, high-speed broadband connectivity to unserved and underserved communities around the world,” As private companies look to commercialize space, high-speed internet is among the prospects that offer the highest profits in the short term. In February, OneWeb, another company that’s expecting to create a network of satellites to provide high-speed internet access, successfully launched its first satellites. SpaceX also has designs on creating a global satellite network — in addition to its leading position as a launch services provider for companies looking to access outer space. Finally, the social networking giant Facebook  has been working on satellite capabilities of its own. In a May report, the IEEE Spectrum laid out how Facebook had set up a small subsidiary called PointView Tech, which was developing a new satellite called “Athena” that could deliver data 10 times faster than SpaceX’s Starlink satellites. Amazon’s Kuiper satellite service complements the work that another Jeff Bezos company, Blue Origin, is conducting on the design, development and production of launch vehicles to take payloads into orbit.

 

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So... is this included in my prime subscription? Jokes aside, it's good to see more companies are competing to provide internet to those communities that don't have it. While they will make money off their investment, the ability to easily communicate ideas, creations, and opinions is important for our society and helps promote technological, societal, and economic growth.


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2 minutes ago, rcmaehl said:

3,236 satellites

WOW, thats an insane amount, especially just to start off with. I can't imagine how much that must cost.

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im not sure how id feel about Amazon as an ISP but at least its not google or bookface


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12 minutes ago, poochyena said:

WOW, thats an insane amount, especially just to start off with. I can't imagine how much that must cost.

These satellites are likely very small. They can probably deploy several dozen to several hundred at a time


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59 minutes ago, rcmaehl said:

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Amazon has made a filling to put 3,236 satellites in low earth orbit to provide low-latency high speed broadband

I sense more space debris in the next few decades...


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I won't care unless they could provide said internet around my area of Alaska because currently, the only isp here has ridiculous prices, at very slow speeds. 


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So do I get free satellite internet when I subscribe for amazon prime?


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Wow, with all the companies that are trying to get satellites into low orbit, it's going to get crowded up there 😲


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1 hour ago, paddy-stone said:

Wow, with all the companies that are trying to get satellites into low orbit, it's going to get crowded up there 😲

 

Not really there is probably more than a mile between each of them

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Curious as to what the Latency will be. Satellite is obviously slower compared to a wire but I wonder if games will be playable on this.


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19 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

im not sure how id feel about Amazon as an ISP but at least its not google or bookface

Google has its own ISP. It's Google fiber


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On 4/4/2019 at 10:58 PM, FunkmastaFlex said:

I won't care unless they could provide said internet around my area of Alaska because currently, the only isp here has ridiculous prices, at very slow speeds. 

I'm in Florida and still only have one ISP to choose from.


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On 4/5/2019 at 4:27 AM, rcmaehl said:

The company has filed its first papers with the U.S. government for approval to launch a network of 3,236 satellites.

This can be a big concern in the far future 

 


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On 4/4/2019 at 10:27 PM, rcmaehl said:

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Amazon has made a filling to put 3,236 satellites in low earth orbit to provide low-latency high speed broadband

That shit still exist?!

I mean its good for surfin in da woods.

But the Latency is just unbelievable bad. And its  shared bandwith thingy.

Meaning if the Sattelite has 1000Gbit/sec Bandwith in Theory. That is a nice number. 

And also pretty niche if there are only 1.000 people on that one sattelite.

But when there are 100.000 people on the sattelite its where it starts to get really bad.

 

I had it at one time, back in the day and invested in the necessary hardware.

 

The Problem with that system is that you either need a regular backchannel for example your Phone Line, mobille for example.

 

Or you need a special sattelite head that is able to send - and those things are really expensive.

A normal receiving only thing is pretty cheap. Back in the day when I was into it, it was something like 20€ or so for a single head or 50-100€ for a Quad Head...

 


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On 4/4/2019 at 4:31 PM, poochyena said:

WOW, thats an insane amount, especially just to start off with. I can't imagine how much that must cost.

Ya OneWeb is planning on 600 SATs and SpaceX is planning on 1000.

 

LEO is got to be a game changer in internet distribution and SAT internet in general.


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2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

That shit still exist?!

I mean its good for surfin in da woods.

But the Latency is just unbelievable bad. And its  shared bandwith thingy.

Meaning if the Sattelite has 1000Gbit/sec Bandwith in Theory. That is a nice number. 

And also pretty niche if there are only 1.000 people on that one sattelite.

But when there are 100.000 people on the sattelite its where it starts to get really bad.

 

I had it at one time, back in the day and invested in the necessary hardware.

 

The Problem with that system is that you either need a regular backchannel for example your Phone Line, mobille for example.

 

Or you need a special sattelite head that is able to send - and those things are really expensive.

A normal receiving only thing is pretty cheap. Back in the day when I was into it, it was something like 20€ or so for a single head or 50-100€ for a Quad Head...

 

Its gotten better. my dad has hueghs net gen5 hardware and while i for sure would not game on it, its more than capable of any thing else. No need for the extra phone lines (I;m failrly certin that has not been needed for a long time) he got free installation, and I think pays about 50 a month.

 

Also keep in mind these are a new type of satellite, and are low orbit, they will be much closer to the earth than what is currently offered from other companies. ergo lower latency.

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3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

That shit still exist?!

I mean its good for surfin in da woods.

But the Latency is just unbelievable bad. And its  shared bandwith thingy.

Meaning if the Sattelite has 1000Gbit/sec Bandwith in Theory. That is a nice number. 

And also pretty niche if there are only 1.000 people on that one sattelite.

But when there are 100.000 people on the sattelite its where it starts to get really bad.

 

I had it at one time, back in the day and invested in the necessary hardware.

 

The Problem with that system is that you either need a regular backchannel for example your Phone Line, mobille for example.

 

Or you need a special sattelite head that is able to send - and those things are really expensive.

A normal receiving only thing is pretty cheap. Back in the day when I was into it, it was something like 20€ or so for a single head or 50-100€ for a Quad Head...

 

The current GEO SAT internet has a expected Latancy of 600 ms with a standard consumer speed of 25-50 Mbps.

My companies Internet should double when next gen rolls out.

 

But this is  LEO which is over 10x closer to earth which we should see latency of a estimated 25-40 ms (thats what OneWeb reported)

 

LEO should make playing online games possible, not that I am saying it will be the best but possible.

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