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Just now, GabrielLP14 said:

Taichi has 2 phases for SOC? And 12 for Vcore? But what about the other 2?

or vsoc, thats an example, ive gotten it wrong sorry,

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Just now, GabrielLP14 said:

Taichi has 2 phases for SOC? And 12 for Vcore? But what about the other 2?

Wait it says 4 (2x2) which means its a doubled 2 phase aka 4

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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

Wait it says 4 (2x2) which means its a doubled 2 phase aka 4

So it's possibly 6 phases for the Vcore(2x6) and possible 2x2 phases for the SOC?

 

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10 hours ago, GabrielLP14 said:

So it's possibly 6 phases for the Vcore(2x6) and possible 2x2 phases for the SOC?

 

no, its a 6 phase using doublers to get 12, and a 2 phase doubled using doublers for 4

some boards, notable ASUS Z390 have a "Fake" 8 phase, or a Fat 4 phase, which means they just have double the components of a 4 phase, and don't use doublers at all

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the MSI X570 Ace was leaked

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnxevneRXQKX?t=1h39m14s&fbclid=IwAR39kwUFriWH4xl8mxo0tKbGGhcICJsK3_a6Lg6-0XJlmOWTVRzEqBzbcRI

 

Seems to be a 14 phase in total, maybe 6x2 and 2 (maybe 4 sets of mosfets for 2 inductors). Whether doublers exist is unknown, since MSI happily avoided them on mainstream X470.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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55 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the MSI X570 Ace was leaked

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnxevneRXQKX?t=1h39m14s&fbclid=IwAR39kwUFriWH4xl8mxo0tKbGGhcICJsK3_a6Lg6-0XJlmOWTVRzEqBzbcRI

Wow. I can't wait! AMD boards are finally getting the same treatment (aesthetically) that Intel has always gotten.. Can't wait to see what each manufacturer comes up with in the high end.. 

 

I might actually try MSI this time.. 

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3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

the MSI X570 Ace was leaked

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnxevneRXQKX?t=1h39m14s&fbclid=IwAR39kwUFriWH4xl8mxo0tKbGGhcICJsK3_a6Lg6-0XJlmOWTVRzEqBzbcRI

 

Seems to be a 14 phase in total, maybe 6x2 and 2 (maybe 4 sets of mosfets for 2 inductors). Whether doublers exist is unknown, since MSI happily avoided them on mainstream X470.

have the ace already on the lists, not the vrms tho.

The ace looks pretty interesting, I'm hoping for a 170$ Taichi on sale, as thats prob what I'll get.

Love the work asrock did on their X370 and X470 lineup, 16 phases in total on a 200$ board when others had 8-12 phases total on 250$ boards

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2 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

have the ace already on the lists, not the vrms tho.

The ace looks pretty interesting, I'm hoping for a 170$ Taichi on sale, as thats prob what I'll get.

Love the work asrock did on their X370 and X470 lineup, 16 phases in total on a 200$ board when others had 8-12 phases total on 250$ boards

Talking about Taichi boards, I'd slam Asrock if they didnt integrate the gear design to the chipset fan. I dont care about the rest of it at that point

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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15 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Talking about Taichi boards, I'd slam Asrock if they didnt integrate the gear design to the chipset fan. I dont care about the rest of it at that point

I'm happy with a refersh of the X470 but with PCIe 4.0 and more chipset cooling. 

12+4 high quality phases is the best VRM setup imo. (C7H is better for LN2 tho, and Gaming 7 has a great heatsink)

 

hopefully GB has finned heatsinks + 12 phase vrms.

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