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Making a X570 VRM + Features List, (Alpha, no duh lol)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Because I think that X570 & Zen 2/7nm will make a big splash, and many people on older platforms (i.e. before 7th gen intel, and perhaps zen 1) might decide to upgrade, and there will be a huge amount of motherboards, and it may be hard to decide which one is the best.

This is an alpha (no X570 has even been released yet), and has some (actually mostly) speculation. I based this mostly on prior designs, and some various leaks.

I will continue to update this, and if any of you want to help me with this, please send me a PM. Your help will be greatly appreciated, as this is a daunting task.

 

What I have so far:

Added Gigabyte,ASRock,MSI,ASUS X570

Biostar flagship

basic wifi/connection etc.

 

 

Heres the "key":

VRMs:

8 = true 8 phase (no doublers)

8 (4x2) = Doubled 4 phase, (4 doublers)

4x2 (!) = 4 phase with double the components to look like an 8 phase (no doublers)

8 (?) = 8 inductors, not sure about phase count.

 

Heatsink: (a + refers to in between)

Watercooled: some top-end boards have built in vrm waterblocks.

Amazing: Fully Finned heatsink (X470 Aorus Gaming 7, X299 Dark)

Great: A decent amount of fins (Z390 Aorus Ultra, Z390 Aorus Master)

Good: Large heatsink, with some fins (X470 Taichi, X470 Aorus Gaming 5)

Medium: Medium heatsink, or Large heatsink devoid of fins/airflow (X470 Gaming Plus, Z390 Tomahawk)

Bad: Medium heatsink with no finnage, and no airflow, or small heatsink (Z390 Prime-A)

None: Bare mosfets, minimal cooling (Gigabyte B360M DS3H)

 

LAN (From best to worst) :

10Gbe

5Gbe

2.5Gbe

1Gbe Killer/Intel

1Gbe Aquantia

 

Wifi:

Y (with model number, if possible)

N


here's the actual thing:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j4X6MKRqaqgn2wbQnHzOfqV145F175Irz_N145KJHM8/edit#gid=0

Anyone can view, please comment whatever you wish, I will accept any form of criticism.

 

Heres an example from X470 of what an ideal completed row would look like:

Manufacturer:

Name:

Size: Classification: Price: Vcore: VSoc: Controller + Doubler: Mosfets and Amperage Heatsinks: Wifi: LAN: Good Value?
ASRock X470 Taichi ATX Enthusiast 199.99 USD 12 (6x2) 4 (2x2) IR35201 + IR3598 CSD87350 (40A) Good+ Y

 

Lan:

Gbe Intel

Good value? 

Yes, because of its 200$ price tag where it competes against 10 phase VRMs, also strong mosfets, and 8 Sata ports while competitors only have 6.


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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tbh you could just check the one in hardwareluxx


The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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27 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Lan:

Gbe Intel

 

Probably rather obscure stuff like Aquantia and Tehuti rather than Intel.


Also there are rumors of Thunderbolt???


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1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

Probably rather obscure stuff like Aquantia and Tehuti rather than Intel.


Also there are rumors of Thunderbolt???

The X470 Taichi uses an Intel Gbe, Aquantia tends to perform worse.

 

I'm 99% sure that TB3 will not be supported at all on AMD platforms until it gets integrated to USB 4.


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

 

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

tbh you could just check the one in hardwareluxx

:shrug: was not aware that was a thing, just checked, but it just gives you vrms, I might add total amperage (i.e. 12 40A mosfets (with suitable inductors) = 480A total of current.

Besides, I'm planning on making this table more detailed, such as including no. of USB, and M.2, and sata (prob on a different sheet)

Good resource tho, thanks!


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, hello_there_123 said:

It would actually be better imo if you didn't color everything, just makes it harder to read

oh, what about making it a much lighter tint?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j4X6MKRqaqgn2wbQnHzOfqV145F175Irz_N145KJHM8/edit#gid=0

I think that's much better.


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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2 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

I might add total amperage (i.e. 12 40A mosfets (with suitable inductors) = 480A total of current.

that will be meaningless as it doesnt take heat output into consideration. Especially in rating mosfets comparing to dualNfets and powerstages as they are rated under less thermal stress.


The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros

CPU: i7-2600K 4745MHz 1.408V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.2MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2200MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@Jurrunio @hello_there_123 @Stefan Payne

 

Do you guys think that making a list with SATA, M.2, USB etc. would be helpful?


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

@Jurrunio @hello_there_123 @Stefan Payne

 

Do you guys think that making a list with SATA, M.2, USB etc. would be helpful?

if you have time, sure. I just rather people look up the official sites as these things are clearly shown.


The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros

CPU: i7-2600K 4745MHz 1.408V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.2MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2200MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

if you have time, sure. I just rather people look up the official sites as these things are clearly shown.

I'll try to at least include SATA and LAN. Someone might want to look at mobos with 8 sata ports, or they might want 2.5gbe, or 10gbe.


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

@Jurrunio @hello_there_123 @Stefan Payne

 

Do you guys think that making a list with SATA, M.2, USB etc. would be helpful?

Yes it would, as that is how I decide for a Board.

And what's imo the biggest differences between them.

 

Don't forget Graphics Output pls as well. That's also interesting, if you want to use the APU...

 

But in general, M.2 and how its connected and S-ATA, USB is not unimportant (well, SATA seem to lose its value in favor of M.2).


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3 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yes it would, as that is how I decide for a Board.

And what's imo the biggest differences between them.

 

Don't forget Graphics Output pls as well. That's also interesting, if you want to use the APU...

 

But in general, M.2 and how its connected and S-ATA, USB is not unimportant (well, SATA seem to lose its value in favor of M.2).

K, when I'm done with SATA & M.2 etc, I'll work on display outputs, built in audio (?).

thanks for the input!


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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hm... i can't give you every right... but can i use that as one of my sources when it does come out?


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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... i can't give you every right... but can i use that as one of my sources when it does come out?

sure, idc if you use it.


Alpha X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone 8 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon Xp + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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2 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

sure, idc if you use it.

i feel flattered?


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Laptop: Acer TravelMate 8573t

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Consoles:

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On 4/1/2019 at 6:37 PM, Firewrath9 said:

LAN (From best to worst) :

10Gbe

5Gbe

2.5Gbe

1Gbe Killer

1Gbe Intel

1Gbe Aquantia

Just curious, why is Killer above Intel?


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On 4/6/2019 at 7:05 PM, r2724r16 said:

Just curious, why is Killer above Intel?

I thought it was faster/less ping becuase its “gAmer”, am I wrong?


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On 4/6/2019 at 7:05 PM, r2724r16 said:

Just curious, why is Killer above Intel?

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/network/97087-killer-ethernet-e2500/?page=2

basically, it gives prioritys, so if you are watching youtube, and steam is downloading a game, you dont get crazy stutters, same applies when you are playing a game, and something is downloading.


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11 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

I thought it was faster/less ping becuase its “gAmer”, am I wrong?

They seem to have the same ping: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_z77_gaming_gd65_review_motherboard,7.html

11 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/network/97087-killer-ethernet-e2500/?page=2

basically, it gives prioritys, so if you are watching youtube, and steam is downloading a game, you dont get crazy stutters, same applies when you are playing a game, and something is downloading.

Intel NICs well work in almost all operating systems, don't think that's the case for Killer (don't quote me on this). Intel is also preferred by most people because Killer's software is crap.

 

You should really put Intel on top of Killer in the tier list. Or at least put them on the same "level".


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1 hour ago, r2724r16 said:

Thats the old E2200, the new one is E2500.

The Killer ethernet is "smart" and gives priorities, such as if you are watching youtube, and steam is downloading a game, you dont get crazy stutters because it gives priority to youtube, same applies when you are playing a game, and something is downloading.

Also, apparently it reduces cpu load.

https://techreport.com/review/29144/revisiting-the-killer-nic-eight-years-on/3

Thats not the E2500, but is a E2400, so should be closer.

 

I'll try to look at more reviews.


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Do you personally think Intel's NICs are better than Killer's NICs (in general)? Or vice versa?


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Just now, r2724r16 said:

@Lurick

 

Do you personally think Intel's NICs are better than Killer's NICs (in general)? Or vice versa?

Personally had much better experience with Intel's NICs over Killer NICs in general


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27 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Personally had much better experience with Intel's NICs over Killer NICs in general

 

28 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

@Lurick

 

Do you personally think Intel's NICs are better than Killer's NICs (in general)? Or vice versa?

K, I'll put them on the same level.


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On 4/1/2019 at 7:37 PM, Firewrath9 said:

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