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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Couldn't you just make one giant ring with tight coils or 3 interconnected coils spread equally apart?

If you wanted to waste 90% of the current you put in, yes.

5 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

It definitely would make a difference. I've placed my phone on the wireless charger several times only to wake up in the morning and realize that it was just slightly misaligned.

Sounds like a problem a small barrier on the side would prevent without adding much of an inconvenience.


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Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Just now, Sauron said:

If you wanted to waste 90% of the current you put in, yes.

Sounds like a problem a small barrier on the side would prevent without adding much of an inconvenience.

It would need to be a barrier on multiple sides. But my phone has a camera bump that acts as a natural positioning stop -- but it's still not perfect, and 99% of the benefit of wireless charging is that it is a (marginally) more lazy-friendly solution than plugging in a cable. But that goes out the window when positioning is finicky.


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I don't know, they are so many products like it already on the market, all in a verity of colors and shapes.

Even if it would sale, I don't see how it can compete with it's Apple pricing.

 

And if you want to build one yourself... well.... you can:

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&amp;initiative_id=SB_20190329144229&amp;SearchText=wireless+charger+pcba

You can find many mod instructions, in doing things in variety of materials, or some stick it under their table.

Pick one that can deliver 10W (for faster charging), and overheating protection, and you are set to do what you want. The circuitry is really inexpensive and dead simple these days.

 

The only thing that I see Apple could do more, is do like what Nokia did with it's phones with wireless charger, and that is have the wireless charger base illuminate when your phone is low battery (it gets the device battery life via Low Powered Bluetooth that their phone support), and so you can put pop on it, and it charges it.

 

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3 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

It would need to be a barrier on multiple sides. But my phone has a camera bump that acts as a natural positioning stop -- but it's still not perfect, and 99% of the benefit of wireless charging is that it is a (marginally) more lazy-friendly solution than plugging in a cable. But that goes out the window when positioning is finicky.

I guess... I'm still not very convinced it's worth the engineering effort. It would make more sense to make a magsafe type cable that snaps into place as soon as you get the phone near it.


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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

Spoiler

Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Sauron said:

If you wanted to waste 90% of the current you put in, yes.

Sounds like a problem a small barrier on the side would prevent without adding much of an inconvenience.

Right I guess that's a trade off. You would of thought apple could of developed a better version. Considering 15W wireless charging is coming next year


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Apple can't even correct product packaging, making a wireless charger doesn't  "Just Werk" I guess


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34 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

Apple can't even correct product packaging, making a wireless charger doesn't  "Just Werk" I guess

What's wrong with Apple's product packaging?

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>Announces product 

>Goes in limbo for years 

>Finally canceled 

 

And this is why we usually don't announce products that aren't even ready. 


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4 minutes ago, Derangel said:

What's wrong with Apple's product packaging?

Airpods 2 have the Airpower mat on the packaging


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This was probably the most disappointing thing Apple has ever announced.  This will go down as a reliability issue when considering Apple.  I hope the memes stop tbh


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Rest In Peace AirPower 2017-2019 :(

 

 


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1 hour ago, MrFixitBlankFace said:

This will go down as a reliability issue when considering Apple. 

What does that even mean. 


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6 hours ago, Sauron said:

I guess... I'm still not very convinced it's worth the engineering effort. It would make more sense to make a magsafe type cable that snaps into place as soon as you get the phone near it.

Magnetic type C cables are already a thing.


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1 hour ago, Noctus said:

Magnetic type C cables are already a thing.

But you have a thing sticking out in the bottom which is ugly and annoying.

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9 hours ago, D13H4RD said:

>Announces product 

>Goes in limbo for years 

>Finally canceled 

 

And this is why we usually don't announce products that aren't even ready. 

inb4 the next Mac Pro o_o

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14 hours ago, yolosnail said:

Out of all the companies to fail at making a wireless charger, I wouldn't have thought it would be Apple.

I think the problem is that they announced too much information at 'launch'. If they hadn't mentioned that you could put 3 devices anywhere on the pad it would have been out last year as planned, but when they realised they announced something that is physically impossible with current technology they did the typical Apple thing is ignore it completely until people have forgot about it and then put out a little statement hoping nobody will notice.

 

Problem was that Apple never really forgot about it. You had mentions of it in iOS 12.2, plus AirPower was actually featured prominently on the airpods packaging (which was itself dated 2018) and the packing literature of various iOS devices, so it seemed that Apple had every intention of releasing it until the very last moment. 

 

https://ifixit.org/blog/14883/what-finally-killed-airpower/

 

This article makes it sound like while Apple probably had a working prototype of AirPower in their lab somewhere, they ultimately couldn’t make it safe enough for consumers. It’s probably for the best that AirPower stays dead. 

 

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7 hours ago, RejZoR said:

But you have a thing sticking out in the bottom which is ugly and annoying.

It's like 2mm thick. It's barely perceptible lol.


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Wait, I had an idea. What if this is an april fools joke?


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15 hours ago, D13H4RD said:

>Announces product 

>Goes in limbo for years 

>Finally canceled 

 

And this is why we usually don't announce products that aren't even ready. 

It feel like 2017 was the year of the premature Apple announcement.  It was so determined to prove that innovation hadn't died at the company that it unveiled multiple produces several months in advance, in some cases without having a good idea of whether or not they'd actually be ready.  AirPower was one, of course, but there was also the HomePod, the iMac Pro... the only one that really made sense was the Mac Pro, and even that didn't make its original release window (it was supposed to be ready in 2018).

 

Apple has gotten better about things since, but the AirPower is a testimonial to the importance of waiting until you're certain you can do something before making a public commitment.

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16 hours ago, MrFixitBlankFace said:

This will go down as a reliability issue when considering Apple. 

What does that even mean. 

 

 

This is what I was trying to say...

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The saga of AirPower has damaged Apple’s reputation for cutting edge technology, delivering on promises, and raises questions about its ability to introduce new hardware.


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1 hour ago, Commodus said:

It was so determined to prove that innovation hadn't died at the company

Despite not being innovative for decades.


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