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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello everyone,

 

I had my Swiftech H320 for about 6 months now and it 'died' on me.  When i tried starting up my computer, I got an error about my CPU cooler.  I listened to it and it started hearing some noise inside the pump and there is quite a lot of vibration.  I then removed it and started using the stock Intel cooler.  I assumed that it might have been air bubbles stuck inside the pump so i hooked it up to one of the fan headers and started tilting both pump and radiator.  The noise is still there and I noticed how the pump is running really fast.  I did a reboot a couple of times and it sometimes work and sometimes it doesn’t.  This is the second time I have used an all in one liquid cooler.  I first used the H220, it broke completely after the 3rd week, returned it to NCIX and requested to get the H320 instead of the H220.

 

So that’s my story why I’m looking for air coolers now.   It seems like my luck with liquid coolers are bad so I’m looking around for a nice air cooler.  At the moment I don’t plan of overclocking my pc but probably in the future when I need to squeeze more performance in it.  I was thinking of getting NH-D14 but then it seems like I’m getting compatibility clearance with my RAM.  Would it be possible to just move the 120mm fan that comes included with it, to the back?  If it still would not work what other recommendations/suggestions can you guys give me?

 

Here are my specs:

NZXT Switch 810

Intel 4770K @ 3.5ghz

Asus Maximus VI Hero

Asus DCUII 780

16gb (2x8gb) Corsair Vengeance @ 1600mhz

Intel 335 SSD 240gb

Samsung 840 240gb

Corsair AX 860i

 

Thanks!

-Vince

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Yes, you can just move the 120mm fan. I only use the 140mm fan by itself and it cools well but I think it's because of the ghetto mounted 140mm intake in my 5.25" bays that pushes air directly towards the heatsink.


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So thats my story why im looking for air coolers now.   it seems like my luck with liquid coolers are bad so im looking around for a nice air cooler.  At the moment i dont plan of overclocking my pc but probably in the future when i need to squeeze more performance in it.  I was thinking of getting NH-D14 but then it seems like im getting compatibility clearance with my RAM.  Would it be possible to just move the 120mm fan, that comes included with it, to the back?  If it still would not work what other recommendations/suggestions can you guys give me?

 

Are you using the original vengeance with the tall heatsink? 


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yeh that one isn't compatible but you could do what woodenmarker said ^_^


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@beteng1 if you're worried about ram clearance you could go with the NH-U14S,cools only marginally worse than the D14 with a single fan (roughly on par when using second fan) and it's  much slimmer,although it's longer so it blocks the first Expansion slot slightly,although since you aren't using the fire expansion it shouldn't matter.


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Vengeance ram is pretty darn tall.

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Yes, you can just move the 120mm fan. I only use the 140mm fan by itself and it cools well but I think it's because of the ghetto mounted 140mm intake in my 5.25" bays that pushes air directly towards the heatsink.

yeh that one isn't compatible but you could do what woodenmarker said ^_^

i guess putting the 120 at the back would be better in my situation

 

@beteng1 if you're worried about ram clearance you could go with the NH-U14S,cools only marginally worse than the D14 with a single fan (roughly on par when using second fan) and it's  much slimmer,although it's longer so it blocks the first Expansion slot slightly,although since you aren't using the fire expansion it shouldn't matter.

thats a good option.. but since the U14S and D14 are the same price, would i be able to benefit more if I just use the 140mm fan? im just thinking since there are 2 'towers of fin'

 

How about the Bequiet Dark rock 3?

wow this one looks really nice! $72 vs $90 for D14 and U14S.  How is the performance difference between Dark Rock 3 vs NH-D14 and NH-U14S

 

Vengeance ram is pretty darn tall.

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lol i didnt expect it to be that tall :P

 

So far im leaning towards the D14 if i move the 120mm fan at the back(closer to the IO) since it would go nice with my Noctua fans.  Man that dark rock looks pretty sexy still.  I'll let you guys know at the end of the week and thanks for the inputs!

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@beteng1 if you're worried about ram clearance you could go with the NH-U14S,cools only marginally worse than the D14 with a single fan (roughly on par when using second fan) and it's  much slimmer,although it's longer so it blocks the first Expansion slot slightly,although since you aren't using the fire expansion it shouldn't matter.

 

If U14S is put horizontally even fan won't block first slot. Or might contact slightly but its only plastic.


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you could get a proper cpu loop 240 kit with a bay res as the switch 810 is a great watercooling case and your ram is very limiting for air coolers. 


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Intel Xeon W3175X@4.8ghz

Asus Dominus Extreme

Titan V 4 Way

G.Skill Ripheartout X OC 5000Mhz C12 DDR4 4X8GB  

Super Flower Power Leadex 2000W Psu's X2

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Noctua NH-U12S will fit without interfering with memory - that is what it is designed for. It performs about 2C worse than the NH-D14. The NH-U14S might interfere with a memory module in the 1st slot. Given that you only have two sticks, if the motherboard supports it, moving the modules to the other bank should resolve that problem. The NH-U14S performs better than the NH-D14.

 

Understandable that you are reluctant to try another AIO. Swiftech has a very good reputation for support, you may want to get in touch with them.


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Corsair Vengeance memory (from top to bottom) are about 2" (or 5.5cm) tall.

GSkill RipJawsX are about 1.6" (4cm) tall.

GSKill RipJaws are about the same at the RipJawsX.

 

(I physically have each of the above so...)


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  • i7-6800K @ 4.0 GHz --- i7-8086K
  • ASUS X99 Deluxe --- Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
  • 2x Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire / ASUS ROG Platinum Matrix R9-280X
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  • EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables
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  • 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
  • Corsair A50 air cooler  NZXT X61
  • Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD
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  • Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips

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Posted · Original PosterOP

hello,
 
just an update, i was able to get my hands on NH-D14.  I just lifted the 120mm so it doesnt interfere with the RAM modules.  I then tested its cooling by running prime95 for about 30 mins and i find that my temperatures are still high.
I already have changed the CPU Q Fan in the bios settings to advanced mode and have modified the fan controls at the CPU.  Any ideas if this is normal or reasons why its too high?

 

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I forgot to add, here are my idle temps:

core 0 - 35C

core 1 - 34C

core 2 - 36C

core 3 - 34C

package - 35C

 

Thanks

-Vince

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hello,

 

just an update, i was able to get my hands on NH-D14.  I just lifted the 120mm so it doesnt interfere with the RAM modules.  I then tested its cooling by running prime95 for about 30 mins and i find that my temperatures are still high.

I already have changed the CPU Q Fan in the bios settings to advanced mode and have modified the fan controls at the CPU.  Any ideas if this is normal or reasons why its too high?

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I forgot to add, here are my idle temps:

core 0 - 35C

core 1 - 34C

core 2 - 36C

core 3 - 34C

package - 35C

 

Thanks

-Vince

 

Do not let your cpu get above 90C for any length of time.

 

If you are running stock speed and voltages the load temps are high. Prime95 has a tendency to abnormally push up temperatures but I wouldn't of expected temps in the 90C range.

 

Not sure where you are getting the idle temps you listed. According to the screen display the cores idle around 30C which is quite normal.


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Your volts are pretty high for stock clocks. With 4770K Turbo Boost raises clocks to 3.9GHz and volts to 1.27-.29. I can run mine with mild OC of 4.0 and bit conservative volts of 1.15V.


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Do not let your cpu get above 90C for any length of time.

 

If you are running stock speed and voltages the load temps are high. Prime95 has a tendency to abnormally push up temperatures but I wouldn't of expected temps in the 90C range.

 

Not sure where you are getting the idle temps you listed. According to the screen display the cores idle around 30C which is quite normal.

Yeah, as much as possible i dont want to leave it running over 85C for a long period of time. I worry too much about the temps.

I had a screen shot of the idle temps but it seems like i lost the picture.

 

Your volts are pretty high for stock clocks. With 4770K Turbo Boost raises clocks to 3.9GHz and volts to 1.27-.29. I can run mine with mild OC of 4.0 and bit conservative volts of 1.15V.

I had problems recently with the pc not booting up after a power surge.  Had to clear the cmos and it had returned all the cpu volts and speeds back to defaults(i think).  Now Im back to 1.156V and idling around 35C.

I believe that when i AI Suite's 4 way optimization, it had added more volts to the CPU core and thats the reason why i was getting high temps.  Since i have not planned on overclocking it yet, I'm just going to leave CPU alone for now.

Quick Update:

I went to NCIX last week after i recieved an email from Swiftech that NCIX can have my H320 exchanged for another H320.  Turns out they NCIX and Swiftech have arranged that canadians do not have to mail the pump to Swiftech, instead we can just exchange it to the store(NCIX) as long as we have the receipt and its still under warranty.  I'm still waiting for NCIX to receive the shipment of H320s so i can get it exchanged.  Some good news for me :)

 

Sorry guys, i just saw replies on this thread now.  Been busy with school.

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