Overclocking AMD Ryzen 2 2700?

[_Grid21]

I was going through my bios and I tried and see how much the auto overclock in my Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming would OC my CPU, and it said I could get a 3% gain in performance. But is that enough to try it and go for it on the stock Wraith cooler?

[Princess Luna]

First of all, it's Ryzen 7 2700 of the Zen+ line up.

 

Secondly, auto-OC's aren't worth it, you can either try setting your chip at 4ghz to 4.2ghz all cores playing with voltage (keep them under 1.4v) and see how good is your silicon before considering a new cooler.

 

YouTube is over-filled with overclocking guides, whatever you do manually will always be extremely better than 'auto' stuff.

[Cyracus]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

First of all, it's Ryzen 7 2700 of the Zen+ line up

Get off your high horse, all the pertinent information was there.

 

6 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

I was going through my bios and I tried and see how much the auto overclock in my Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming would OC my CPU, and it said I could get a 3% gain in performance. But is that enough to try it and go for it on the stock Wraith cooler?

Overclock manually. Beware voltage going to the cpu may be considerably higher than what is set in bios, check mobo reviews and see if they give any voltage info, particularly if they read actual voltage at the cpu instead of software.

[_Grid21]

1 minute ago, Cyracus said:

Get off your high horse, all the pertinent information was there.

 

Overclock manually. Beware voltage going to the cpu may be considerably higher than what is set in bios, check mobo reviews and see if they give any voltage info, particularly if they read actual voltage at the cpu instead of software.

Ok, I have never really done OC-ing on a CPU so I know nothing of what to change. The video Linus did only covered the 1700x.

[GoldenLag]

Plug in 4,1 jiggies

 

1,35 volts.

 

Stress test

 

If fail: drop to 1,34 volts.

 

If increase to 1,37 volts.

 

If fail drop to 4 jiggies

 

Repeat voltages. 

 

 

 

Do above or play around with voltages. Stay below 1,4 Vcore. 

 

Watch temps. Make sure they dont go too high. If they do. Attempt to increase fancurve or lower voltage if it is stable. 

 

 

OC is inherently trial and error. Expect spending some times doing this. Avoid Auto OC, it applies way too much voltage

[_Grid21]

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Plug in 4,1 jiggies

 

1,35 volts.

 

Stress test

 

If fail: drop to 1,34 volts.

 

If increase to 1,37 volts.

 

If fail drop to 4 jiggies

 

Repeat voltages. 

 

 

 

Do above or play around with voltages. Stay below 1,4 Vcore. 

 

Watch temps. Make sure they dont go too high. If they do. Attempt to increase fancurve or lower voltage if it is stable. 

 

 

OC is inherently trial and error. Expect spending some times doing this. Avoid Auto OC, it applies way too much voltage

What is considered a safe temps for AMD Ryzen 2 2700?

[Stormseeker9]

7 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Plug in 4,1 jiggies

 

1,35 volts.

 

Stress test

 

If fail: drop to 1,34 volts.

 

If increase to 1,37 volts.

 

If fail drop to 4 jiggies

 

Repeat voltages. 

 

 

 

Do above or play around with voltages. Stay below 1,4 Vcore. 

 

Watch temps. Make sure they dont go too high. If they do. Attempt to increase fancurve or lower voltage if it is stable. 

 

 

OC is inherently trial and error. Expect spending some times doing this. Avoid Auto OC, it applies way too much voltage

Don’t forget to also check your temps during these tests... under 80c is favourable 

[GoldenLag]

Just now, _Grid21 said:

What is considered a safe temps for AMD Ryzen 2 2700?

Stay below 85*C while TjMax is higher. Id never go at it or above it due to changes in ambient temp during the summer.

[Ashiella]

17 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

Get off your high horse, all the pertinent information was there.

...what? You don't need to be so rude man.. I've had plenty of times where I posted a question pertaining to my (Non spoilerized) signature (Containing my system specifications) and those who replied still asked me for my specs. @Princess Cadence was simply stating it for those who dont look at sigs.

[_Grid21]

Question, my ram is OC-ed using the DOCP, which essentially is XMP, will that affect the Overclocking for the CPU with that fast of ram?

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

Question, my ram is OC-ed using the DOCP, which essentially is XMP, will that affect the Overclocking for the CPU with that fast of ram?

Well it can contribute to the overall instability of the system.  

 

One thing you'll also want to do is set all your LLC settings.

 

Also, set SOC to a static voltage.  You won't need anything higher than 1.1V and can probably go lower.  At lower RAM speeds and looser timings you could probably get away with 1.0V for SOC.  

[_Grid21]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

Well it can contribute to the overall instability of the system.  

 

One thing you'll also want to do is set all your LLC settings.

 

Also, set SOC to a static voltage.  You won't need anything higher than 1.1V and can probably go lower.  At lower RAM speeds and looser timings you could probably get away with 1.0V for SOC.  

Oh gosh, the more I read into this, the more that OC-ing the CPU, with the ram, sounds like a mess.

[nick name]

2 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

Oh gosh, the more I read into this, the more that OC-ing the CPU, with the ram, sounds like a mess.

It isn't.  It can be tedious, but honestly playing the overclocking game is fun.  

[_Grid21]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

It isn't.  It can be tedious, but honestly playing the overclocking game is fun.  

Maybe I'll just ask @LinusTech to come over to my house and do it for me.  So I basically have to switch DOCP to off, and start hitting the CPU? And does OC-ing a CPU really yield any benefits? 

[nick name]

2 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

Maybe I'll just ask @LinusTech to come over to my house and do it for me.  So I basically have to switch DOCP to off, and start hitting the CPU? And does OC-ing a CPU really yield any benefits? 

Nah, DOCP is fine.  Just don't try to overclock your RAM and your CPU at the same time.  Do one before the other.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

And does OC-ing a CPU really yield any benefits? 

It yields any of the benefits you get from a faster CPU. In most cases, this is an appreciable benefit.

[Cyracus]

17 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

...what? You don't need to be so rude man.. I've had plenty of times where I posted a question pertaining to my (Non spoilerized) signature (Containing my system specifications) and those who replied still asked me for my specs. @Princess Cadence was simply stating it for those who dont look at sigs.

It's not just in their sig, it's the title of the topic. @Princess Cadence  was being nit picky. Like I doubt anyone using this forum doesn't know what a ryzen 2700 is (and if they don't they shouldn't respond to this topic: "Overclocking AMD Ryzen 2 2700?")

[_Grid21]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It yields any of the benefits you get from a faster CPU. In most cases, this is an appreciable benefit.

 

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

Nah, DOCP is fine.  Just don't try to overclock your RAM and your CPU at the same time.  Do one before the other.

Right now, this is my currently Memory OC with DOCP on, http://prntscr.com/n2twet , so if I wanted to OC the CPU, should I revert these clock timings?

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

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You've done nothing but copy paste the rest of my reply which you so 'conveniently' forgot to mention while trying much harder being the true nitpicking one in here on my correcting of the product name for OP.

 

I simply would enjoy to know the correct spelling if I'm going to put it on a signature, afterwards I still proceeded to reply the thread accordingly.

 

I strongly suggest you to drop from your high horse.

[nick name]

No I would be fine with DOCP while overclocking the CPU.  Unless for whatever reason you think your RAM isn't stable.

 

 

[_Grid21]

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You've done nothing but copy paste the rest of my reply which you so 'conveniently' forgot to mention while trying much harder being the true nitpicking one in here on my correcting of the product name for OP.

 

I simply would enjoy to know the correct spelling if I'm going to put it on a signature, afterwards I still proceeded to reply the thread accordingly.

 

I strongly suggest you to drop from your high horse.

Hey, if you 2 are having an issue, could you take it to DMs since it has nothing to do with what I am trying to learn. Thanks.

10 minutes ago, nick name said:

No I would be fine with DOCP while overclocking the CPU.  Unless for whatever reason you think your RAM isn't stable.

 

 

So with that in mind, I know one person @GoldenLag had given me things to try, but with account for DOCP, does his settings suggestion still worth trying?

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

So with that in mind, I know one person @GoldenLag had given me things to try, but with account for DOCP, does his settings suggestion still worth trying?

DOCP is just XMP. or the settings you tune to get the ram to run at its rated speed. 

 

doesnt touch the CPU. my settings still apply

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

Hey, if you 2 are having an issue, could you take it to DMs since it has nothing to do with what I am trying to learn. Thanks.

I'm not having an issue whatsoever, someone just loves picking on people apparently.

 

Regarding DOCP, you should keep it as it makes a greater difference than the frequency you might gain from overclocking the CPU in the first place.

 

Ryzen infinity fabric(technology used to link cores together) latency is tied to your memory frequency, the faster the memory the lower latency you'll have which increases performance specially on single threaded workloads, trying to further fine tune your memory through an overclock is also advisable.

 

As you seen the DOCP values are stable for both the motherboard and CPU, try pushing it to 3200mhz and keeping the timings, or loosening them to 16 18 18 36 (at maximum).

 

Youtube also has a lot of guides for this.

 

Cheers.

[_Grid21]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

DOCP is just XMP. or the settings you tune to get the ram to run at its rated speed. 

 

doesnt touch the CPU. my settings still apply

Cool cool. The ram is overclocked to about 3,000Mhz, the voltage I have no idea. The whole screenshot is already in this post.

[Cyracus]

5 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

Hey, if you 2 are having an issue, could you take it to DMs since it has nothing to do with what I am trying to learn. Thanks.

Sorry, but for real, be aware of the discrepancy between voltage readout at the software level and the hardware level, quickest way to ruin your day is to think you're pushing 1.4v when your cpu is getting 1.6 and end up with a dead chip that you may not be able to get a warranty replacement