Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
Genotabby

Does Gigabyte Bios offer per core OC for Z390?

12 hours ago, Genotabby said:

I have currently set my under 1 core to be 5.3Ghz and the rest at 5.1GHz but it doesn't reflect in hwinfo. I can confirm that hwinfo showed one core at 5.3 and the rest at 5.1 using my friend's motherboard

This is completely wrong.

ONLY HEDT boards support per core overclocking.

On mainstream boards, all the cores will run at the set turbo boost speed depending on how many cores are loaded.  You have no control at all over which cores are loaded or not.

You can disable cores, but you have no control over which core is disabled (you may be able to find out if you know the average temp spread of each core, but you still can't control it).

Windows doesn't help the situation either.  If you only have a single thread active, it will try to spread the thread load over all cores randomly.

 

What you saw in HWinfo64 is simply a timing error. The polling is inaccurate. I'm not sure if Throttlestop 8.70 handles this better or not.

Recommended Posts

Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi, coming from an Asus z270 motherboard, I am used to the per core overclock found in their bios. Now I am using a z390 gigabyte aorus master and I am unable to find the per core overclock option. Does Gigabyte offer a per core overclock option and where do I find it? Currently running 5.1GHz all core on the 9900k.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Per clock OC is years now on 90% of motherboards


CPU:i7 9700k 4.9Ghz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 2500Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, SSD mushkin chronos 120GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU:Corsair CS 650 M Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK600-W, IPS, HDR10, 4K 2nd: Samsung P2470HD Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Mouse 2014 Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Per clock OC is years now on 90% of motherboards

I have been digging through the bios and the only option I found is "Turbo Per Core Limit Control" but this had little to no effect on frequencies.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Genotabby said:

I have been digging through the bios and the only option I found is "Turbo Per Core Limit Control" but this had little to no effect on frequencies.

On what motherboard?


CPU:i7 9700k 4.9Ghz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 2500Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, SSD mushkin chronos 120GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU:Corsair CS 650 M Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK600-W, IPS, HDR10, 4K 2nd: Samsung P2470HD Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Mouse 2014 Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Genotabby said:

Z390 Aorus Master

There is no way you can't set a per clock OC on that board

In the OC window, is there a tab for advanced users, maybe it is there


CPU:i7 9700k 4.9Ghz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 2500Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, SSD mushkin chronos 120GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU:Corsair CS 650 M Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK600-W, IPS, HDR10, 4K 2nd: Samsung P2470HD Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Mouse 2014 Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Constantin said:

There is no way you can't set a per clock OC on that board

In the OC window, is there a tab for advanced users, maybe it is there

Can't find such an option. This is pretty bad board if that is the case and I might change to a ROG one. Thanks for your help! Side note: How do you know that my motherboard cannot set a per core OC?

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Genotabby said:

How do you know that my motherboard cannot set a per core OC?

I did not say that it can not!!

i said

 

6 minutes ago, Constantin said:

There is no way you can't set a per clock OC on that board

i still believethere is a way to OC per core on that bo1rd

 


CPU:i7 9700k 4.9Ghz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 2500Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, SSD mushkin chronos 120GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU:Corsair CS 650 M Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK600-W, IPS, HDR10, 4K 2nd: Samsung P2470HD Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Mouse 2014 Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Constantin said:

I did not say that it can not!!

i said

 

 

Oh sorry misread. Alright will explore the bios a bit more

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Genotabby said:

a ROG

if you do, please don't get a code, hero or formula

 

it's a huge downgrade from the master in vrms


PSU Tier List//Graphics card (cooling) tier list//Build Guide Megathread//Motherboard Tier List//Linux Guide//Build logs//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Secondary PC: Cedar mill

Spoiler

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Server: CookieVault

Spoiler

CPU: core2dual E8400   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 2+1+1+1 gb 1333 mhz ddr3   MOBO: HP Q series   HDD: 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint Ecogreen   Soundcard: built in   Case: Compaq 6000 pro mt   Screen: Samsung SyncMaster710n

 

Laptop: Acer TravelMate 8573t

Spoiler

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

if you do, please don't get a code, hero or formula

 

it's a huge downgrade from the master in vrms

Yea I was looking at the extreme since it is slightly more expensive than the formula.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Genotabby said:

Yea I was looking at the extreme since it is slightly more expensive than the formula.

look into the apex and gene too

 

if you would need to go that is

 

I'm personally not familiar with gigabytes bios


PSU Tier List//Graphics card (cooling) tier list//Build Guide Megathread//Motherboard Tier List//Linux Guide//Build logs//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Secondary PC: Cedar mill

Spoiler

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Server: CookieVault

Spoiler

CPU: core2dual E8400   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 2+1+1+1 gb 1333 mhz ddr3   MOBO: HP Q series   HDD: 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint Ecogreen   Soundcard: built in   Case: Compaq 6000 pro mt   Screen: Samsung SyncMaster710n

 

Laptop: Acer TravelMate 8573t

Spoiler

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

look into the apex and gene too

 

if you would need to go that is

 

I'm personally not familiar with gigabytes bios

Have looked into them but the gene is an matx board and the apex only has 2 ram slots and I have 4 sticks. Thanks for the recommendation though!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think the 9900k supports per core overclocking like Intel's HEDT platform does.


i9-9900k @ 5.1Hz || EVGA 2080 ti FTW3 Hydrocopper || EVGA z390 Dark || G.Skill TridentZ 16gb 4200MHz C17

 970 Pro 1tb || 860 Evo 2tb || BeQuiet Dark Base Pro 900 || EVGA P2 1200w || AOC Agon AG352UCG

Cooled by: Heatkiller || Hardware Labs || Bitspower || Noctua || EKWB

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

I don't think the 9900 supports per core overclocking like Intel's HEDT platform does.

It does. I can confirm through overclocking my friend's 9900k with strix z390e and observation through hwinfo

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Genotabby said:

It does. I can confirm through overclocking my friend's 9900k with strix z390e and observation through hwinfo

Really?  You can control individual core ratios and voltages?  You candisable certain cores?

 

I have not even been able to verify per core overclock.  If I leave all cores at 5.1 and set one core at 4.9, I observe in HWinfo all cores running 4.9 during cinebench or Prime95.  I thought this was a reporting error, but the cinebench score stays the same with all cores 4.9 or one core 4.9 all others at 5.1.


i9-9900k @ 5.1Hz || EVGA 2080 ti FTW3 Hydrocopper || EVGA z390 Dark || G.Skill TridentZ 16gb 4200MHz C17

 970 Pro 1tb || 860 Evo 2tb || BeQuiet Dark Base Pro 900 || EVGA P2 1200w || AOC Agon AG352UCG

Cooled by: Heatkiller || Hardware Labs || Bitspower || Noctua || EKWB

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Really?  You can control individual core ratios and voltages?  You candisable certain cores?

 

I have not even been able to verify per core overclock.  If I leave all cores at 5.1 and set one core at 4.9, I observe in HWinfo all cores running 4.9 during cinebench or Prime95.  I thought this was a reporting error, but the cinebench score stays the same with all cores 4.9 or one core 4.9 all others at 5.1.

I have currently set my under 1 core to be 5.3Ghz and the rest at 5.1GHz but it doesn't reflect in hwinfo. I can confirm that hwinfo showed one core at 5.3 and the rest at 5.1 using my friend's motherboard

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Genotabby said:

I have currently set my under 1 core to be 5.3Ghz and the rest at 5.1GHz but it doesn't reflect in hwinfo. I can confirm that hwinfo showed one core at 5.3 and the rest at 5.1 using my friend's motherboard

That is not really per core overclocking imho.  What I was talking about is being able to decide what the maximum speed each individual core runs.  That is available on HEDT.  


i9-9900k @ 5.1Hz || EVGA 2080 ti FTW3 Hydrocopper || EVGA z390 Dark || G.Skill TridentZ 16gb 4200MHz C17

 970 Pro 1tb || 860 Evo 2tb || BeQuiet Dark Base Pro 900 || EVGA P2 1200w || AOC Agon AG352UCG

Cooled by: Heatkiller || Hardware Labs || Bitspower || Noctua || EKWB

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Best Answer
12 hours ago, Genotabby said:

I have currently set my under 1 core to be 5.3Ghz and the rest at 5.1GHz but it doesn't reflect in hwinfo. I can confirm that hwinfo showed one core at 5.3 and the rest at 5.1 using my friend's motherboard

This is completely wrong.

ONLY HEDT boards support per core overclocking.

On mainstream boards, all the cores will run at the set turbo boost speed depending on how many cores are loaded.  You have no control at all over which cores are loaded or not.

You can disable cores, but you have no control over which core is disabled (you may be able to find out if you know the average temp spread of each core, but you still can't control it).

Windows doesn't help the situation either.  If you only have a single thread active, it will try to spread the thread load over all cores randomly.

 

What you saw in HWinfo64 is simply a timing error. The polling is inaccurate. I'm not sure if Throttlestop 8.70 handles this better or not.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×