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Is it worth the effort to overclock?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Today I ran my PC through a Cinebench test with no overclocking. 

 

Multi-core: 2538 cb

Single core: 470 cb

MP ratio: 5.41x

 

Based on those things, would you say overclocking from 3.7Ghz-4.4GHz to a higher GHz speed is worth trying at?

Keeping in mind I have a i5-9600k with an Corsair H60 AIO. Right now if under HEAVY load, my thermals are around 61 Celsius.

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Just now, KhakiHat said:

Today I ran my PC through a Cinebench test with no overclocking. 

 

Multi-core: 2538 cb

Single core: 470 cb

MP ratio: 5.41x

 

Based on those things, would you say overclocking from 3.7Ghz-4.4GHz to a higher GHz speed is worth trying at?

Keeping in mind I have a i5-9600k with an Corsair H60 AIO. Right now if under HEAVY load, my thermals are around 61 Celsius.

Depends how far you go.

30 seconds in the BIOS to get 4GHz is definately worth it.

However are you running into bottlenecks? I turned my overclock off on my 3570k for less power consumption because it still runs great today in games.

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if you need more CPU performance then sure.


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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

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26 minutes ago, r4tch3t said:

Depends how far you go.

30 seconds in the BIOS to get 4GHz is definately worth it.

However are you running into bottlenecks? I turned my overclock off on my 3570k for less power consumption because it still runs great today in games.

4GHZ is an underclock.


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Yes it is worth it too overclock. You could easily get that cpu from 4.3ghz to 4.8 or 4.9 (if not higher) which would give you 10-15% or more, performance.


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You'r CPU is running anyway at 4.6Ghz  Max turbo frequency!!!

witch version of Cinebench did you run?

 


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Just now, Constantin said:

You'r CPU is running anyway at 4.6Ghz  Max turbo frequency!!!

witch version of Cinebench did you run?

 

It will only run 4.6GHZ on one core, it will run 4.3GHZ turbo on all cores.


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1 minute ago, alatron978 said:

It will only run 4.6GHZ on one core, it will run 4.3GHZ turbo on all cores.

If he got a decent motherboard, he can turn on multi core enhancement, that boost all cores to the max turbo frequency!


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Just now, Constantin said:

If he got a decent motherboard, he can turn on multi core enhancement, that boost all cores to the max turbo frequency!

That is overclocking though, and will push the voltages WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too high. Like 1.35V when you only need 1.2V-1.25V


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Just now, alatron978 said:

That is overclocking though, and will push the voltages WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too high. Like 1.35V when you only need 1.2V-1.25V

NO! It depends on the motherboard mine is set like that.

4.9Ghz (all cores) multi core enchantment and the voltage is less than 1.25v


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It really depends on you. How much do you have to gain, are you trying to beat some record, etc...


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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 hours ago, r4tch3t said:

Depends how far you go.

30 seconds in the BIOS to get 4GHz is definately worth it.

However are you running into bottlenecks? I turned my overclock off on my 3570k for less power consumption because it still runs great today in games.

I haven't seen any noticeable bottlenecks at least from my knowledge.

 

I am using a 600w power supply and Intel claims that the i5-9600k yields up to 95w for power consumption but that could be under full load and at a sort of maximum setting.

But that could also mean that just in general it uses 95w and surpassing the stock GHz speeds would possibly use more power.

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10 hours ago, Constantin said:

You'r CPU is running anyway at 4.6Ghz  Max turbo frequency!!!

witch version of Cinebench did you run?

 

The newest version, installed from the Microsoft store.

 

I understand that Cinebench is designed to push your PC but I wouldn't think that it would go past the the turbo clock speeds.

Using ASrock's A-tuning software, turning on performance mode, it only raised the CPU GHz to 4.4 GHz.

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10 hours ago, Constantin said:

If he got a decent motherboard, he can turn on multi core enhancement, that boost all cores to the max turbo frequency!

I have a ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac. It cost around 149.99 USD.

From what I believe it does allow overclocking on multiple levels regarding either RAM or the CPU, likely the GPU as well (all of course if you have a decent PSU chucking wattage at them).

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10 hours ago, X_X said:

It really depends on you. How much do you have to gain, are you trying to beat some record, etc...

There really isn't any reason besides just the curiosity and from what I hear is "the fun of trying to overclock"

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10 hours ago, Constantin said:

You'r CPU is running anyway at 4.6Ghz  Max turbo frequency!!!

witch version of Cinebench did you run?

 

memecore frequency works for just 1 core 

 

7 minutes ago, KhakiHat said:

Using ASrock's A-tuning software

just.... don't

if you don't know how to properly overclock then don't do it

 

OC is done manually via BIOS Setup not through crap OS-level software


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2 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

if you don't know how to properly overclock then don't do it

 

OC is done manually via BIOS Setup not through crap OS-level software

Hence why I am here, haha. Ya gotta start somewhere.

 

I understand that overclocking is done on a BIOS level, but the heart of question is more of a question asking if I should bother based on my current benchmarks.

If so, then I would learn and go about it the correct way, not using silly software.

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8 minutes ago, KhakiHat said:

There really isn't any reason besides just the curiosity and from what I hear is "the fun of trying to overclock"

Based on everything you posted on this thread, it sounds like you have some kind of pre-built, right? If that is the case, and you don't have any specific reason to overclock, then just leave it alone.

 

If there is a specific metric that you are trying to improve (e.g. better framerates in CPU bound scenarios) or the apps that you use will benefit from faster clocks (and especially if that means you can make more money), then there are plenty of guides that you can read. For 99%+ of normal gamers, there is basically no benefit to be had. On the other hand, for power users and professionals, 10-20% of free performance from overclocking is a no brainer.

 

Your Cinebench numbers are way off. The version that people normally use is R15. However, the fact that you are posting these numbers without also indicating your particular use case suggests that Cinebench is not the relevant metric. Cinebench is a render benchmark. Do you do a lot of rendering?

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1 minute ago, badreg said:

Based on everything you posted on this thread, it sounds like you have some kind of pre-built, right? If that is the case, and you don't have any specific reason to overclock, then just leave it alone.

 

If there is a specific metric that you are trying to improve (e.g. better framerates in CPU bound scenarios) or the apps that you use will benefit from faster clocks (and especially if that means you can make more money), then there are plenty of guides that you can read. For 99%+ of normal gamers, there is basically no benefit to be had. On the other hand, for power users and professionals, 10-20% of free performance from overclocking is a no brainer.

 

Your Cinebench numbers are way off. The version that people normally use is R15. However, the fact that you are posting these numbers without also indicating your particular use case suggests that Cinebench is not the relevant metric. Cinebench is a render benchmark. Do you do a lot of rendering?

No rendering at all, haha. 

My PC isn't a pre-built though, you can check my specs on my profile.

 

Typically I don't benchmark my PC's, I just kinda get em' rolling and keep them going until I feel the desire to upgrade. Cinebench just seemed to be a popular benchmark, I guess I never thought of the use case scenario of the benchmark itself. I was using version R20.0.

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8 hours ago, KhakiHat said:

There really isn't any reason besides just the curiosity and from what I hear is "the fun of trying to overclock"

Be warned that it ca be addictive :)

 

8 hours ago, aezakmi said:

OC is done manually via BIOS Setup not through crap OS-level software

Nothing wrong with software overclocking if done properly.


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Yes, it's relatively free performance. Why not if you're able to?

 

@badreg @KhakiHat his numbers look like R20


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14 minutes ago, X_X said:

Be warned that it ca be addictive :)

 

Nothing wrong with software overclocking if done properly.

except for voltages jumping like a rabbit on a field.


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2 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

except for voltages jumping like a rabbit on a field.

If it's done like that then it's not done properly ;)


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20 hours ago, KhakiHat said:

Today I ran my PC through a Cinebench test with no overclocking. 

 

Multi-core: 2538 cb

Single core: 470 cb

MP ratio: 5.41x

 

Based on those things, would you say overclocking from 3.7Ghz-4.4GHz to a higher GHz speed is worth trying at?

Keeping in mind I have a i5-9600k with an Corsair H60 AIO. Right now if under HEAVY load, my thermals are around 61 Celsius.

What was the reasoning for going with the H60? Is your case very a confined space?


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.365v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 White // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 // Sapphire Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

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Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDr4 3200 // ASUS RX 570 4GB OC // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 16GB T-Force Vulkan 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p - Logitech Keyboard and Mouse

 

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