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Dizz_Man
By Dizz_Man
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Right, I want to spend 1000 AUD can flex probably an extra 100 if desperate.

GPU NOT INCLUDED, already have a 1080.

HARD DRIVES NOT INCLUDED, already have a 3tb Seagate.

 

Current PC: i7 3770 on an ASUS P8Z77-V Pro, with 8gb of 1333MHz DDR3. GPU GTX 1080 all powered by an overkill Zalman 1000W.

 

I 88% of the time game on this PC. Recently bought BFV and my hardware (excluding the 1080) is showing age. I have 144Hz monitor so FPS is important to be above at least 80 in BFV at high.

 

I want everything from the same place (shipping costs add up) 

I also have a wishlist up on PCCG for an idea. https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/913770/NEW PC intel

There is a i5 9400f, yes, on a Z390. BUT that's for the ability to go for a better 9 series chip in future when the price drops in a few years.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($408.00 @ Shopping Express) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($195.82 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($141.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.00 @ Austin Computers) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($108.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Total: $988.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-24 15:40 AEDT+1100

 

-Most of the sites should have free shipping and you'll know the sites better as I'm not in Australia, but if it has to be the same site according to PCPartPicker you can get most of them from mwave (without paying a ton more) and Newegg has free shipping on the remaining 2 (Mem & Case).

-I didn't feel it was necessary to add a PSU if you stated you already have an overkill one (despite seeing one in the PCCG list)

-That CPU should kick you into maximum frames in BFV (I recently upgraded from an i5-2500k to the 9600k and have never looked back, made BFV run so much better; that game destroys lesser CPUs)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $255.20 @ Newegg Australia
Motherboard MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $196.90 @ Newegg Australia
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $146.30 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $210.10 @ Newegg Australia
Case Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $108.90 @ Newegg Australia
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $116.60 @ Newegg Australia
Case Fan ARCTIC - BioniX F120 (Black/White) 69 CFM 120mm Fan $20.90 @ Newegg Australia
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1054.90
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-24 15:48 AEDT+1100  

With the ability to overclock (though not much without a cooler upgrade) the Ryzen 5 2600 is just as good as the 9400F in gaming while offering 3rd gen Ryzen as upgrade option.

 

Spend more on a board that can hold upgrades as long as they dont draw much more power than the 2700X

 

Larger capacity SSD because there's budget left and M.2 form factor saves space

 

I dont know what 1080 you're using but their power draw when overclocked is about 250w. Even the 2700X draws at most 180w when overclocked in Prime95 so 550w is good enough for now.

 

The P350X case comes with 2 120mm fans on the front as intake, so I'll add a 120mm exhaust at the back.

 

37 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

BUT that's for the ability to go for a better 9 series chip in future when the price drops in a few years.

Cheap Z chipset boards use the same VRM as B and H chipset boards, they are the reason why cheap boards (not even cheap in this case) cannot support big upgrades to power hungry CPUs

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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34 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

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There is a i5 9400f, yes, on a Z390. BUT that's for the ability to go for a better 9 series chip in future when the price drops in a few years.

 

Not a realistic expectation. Take a look at the current cost of i7-6700K or i7-7700K.

 

H370 motherboards usually support Coffee Lake Refresh cpu with a BIOS update. 

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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2 hours ago, brob said:

Take a look at the current cost of i7-6700K or i7-7700K.

 

As told by PC part picker

6700k $658

7700k $499

9400f $279 on PCCG

Or even Ryzen 2600 $259 on PCCG

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11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $255.20 @ Newegg Australia
Motherboard MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $196.90 @ Newegg Australia
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $146.30 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $210.10 @ Newegg Australia
Case Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $108.90 @ Newegg Australia
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $116.60 @ Newegg Australia
Case Fan ARCTIC - BioniX F120 (Black/White) 69 CFM 120mm Fan $20.90 @ Newegg Australia
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1054.90
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-24 15:48 AEDT+1100  

With the ability to overclock (though not much without a cooler upgrade) the Ryzen 5 2600 is just as good as the 9400F in gaming while offering 3rd gen Ryzen as upgrade option.

If he was doing just 1080p gaming in games that weren't penalized for using Ryzen I'd maybe have gone more this route with my suggested build; but you cannot deny that when trying to hit 144fps gaming in BFV the 9600k choice is far superior to the gaming experience on the Ryzen 2600.  Why pay good money for a CPU you're planning to replace with another costly CPU upgrade when Ryzen 3000 comes out?  Yeah the AMD motherboard is supported longer-term but if the 9600k holds up for 6-core gaming years later, how important is the ability to upgrade when upgrades aren't needed until well after you'd be buying a new motherboard anyway (for the features like PCIe 5.0 or newer USB/IO standards).

 

We don't know yet if Ryzen 3000 will best Intel at high-refresh rate gaming anyhow, so this is upgrade speculation.


Source info on why 9600k is a better choice:

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Image is from this video:

 

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