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Upgrading iMac from Leopard (I think? 10.5.8) to whatever

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Posted · Original PosterOP

My mom has finally decided to get rid of the iMac she bought back in '08 now that she has owned her new one since 2016 and I moved all the important data to it.

 

I have been tasked with getting rid of all the data currently on it and selling it for some of the money. Well...

  • It is currently running OSX Leopard 10.5.8
  • I can't figure out how to factory reset the machine. Command+r during reboot wouldn't boot to drive selection or whatever it's called
  • I don't know what OSX I should upgrade to with the machine's current hardware (I'm only willing to upgrade the RAM)
  • Please recommend what OSX I should install. The Core 2 Duo and HD 2600 Pro will likely be the limiting factors here.

Here are some pictures of the Machine's current hardware (happy to supply more info if needed):

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Any advice at all will help. Thank you!

 

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9 minutes ago, ATFink said:

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http://dosdude1.com/mojave/

 

Mojave always looks flashiest to macOS people. Spend the money to upgrade to 8GB RAM and you would have a perfectly fine usable daily machine! I edit on a 2008 Macbook with very similar specs :D


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That iMac will only officially go up to El Capitan. (please not that hacking Mojave to work is not advisable. Graphics errors will be common place)

 

When you boot with cmd + r, do you get the recovery menu options? It would look something like this:

macos-high-sierra-recovery-mode-reinstall.jpg.786d73aadc067782044561aa92b6a29c.jpg

 

However, even if that does work it won't be very useful since we need to get the machine updated, not give it a fresh install. To do that you'll need to obtain either a copy of macOS Snow Leopard (where you would then update though the Mac App Store), or you could use the new iMac to create a bootable macOS installer for El Capitan using this tutorial:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372

 

The new iMac may tell you El Capitan is too old to install, just ignore the warnings and download the installer. If it opens, quit the installer and continue the tutorial. 

 

El Capitan is sadly no longer supported by Apple for security updates but it will still function well enough. 


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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

That iMac will only officially go up to El Capitan. (please not that hacking Mojave to work is not advisable. Graphics errors will be common place)

Only on light theme (Weirdness with not-metal GPU's), as noted by DrDOS. He and his community have tested every device on the supported/non-supported list. I personally haven't ever tested an iMac, but I have had 100% success rate with Macbooks.

 

I would still recommend hacking to Mojave, since even most basic apps won't work on El Capitan. MS Office is notable, as it requires Sierra or High Sierra to install. I don't remember which, but I know for a fact it won't work on El Capitan.

 

As for you, OP, Allmacworld has installers for all EOL versions of OSX as they are abandonware by Apple and legally distributable. This includes Snow Leopard! (My 2008 Macbook had Leopard and needed to be updated to Snow Leopard before I could update to El Capitan to hack to Mojave).


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10 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

 

When you boot with cmd + r, do you get the recovery menu options? It would look something like this:

macos-high-sierra-recovery-mode-reinstall.jpg.786d73aadc067782044561aa92b6a29c.jpg

This will not happen with Leopard. It does not have a recovery partition, that is Snow Leopard and up ^^^


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1 hour ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

It does not have a recovery partition, that is Snow Leopard and up ^^^

Ahh, but as I stated, even if it could, it would be useless for the task of updating. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

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The thing is that I plan to sell the computer. I want it to be a stable system for the buyer. Errors caused by simply changing the theme is unacceptable. If I was going to keep the machine for myself I'd consider it, but I'm not keeping the machine. I do appreciate the input though, so thank you for that.


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3 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

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When you boot with cmd + r, do you get the recovery menu options? It would look something like this:

macos-high-sierra-recovery-mode-reinstall.jpg.786d73aadc067782044561aa92b6a29c.jpg

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No. It does not. Other posts indicate at least snow leopard is required for this menu. Is that true? 

 

Anyways, let me get this straight:

  1. Update to snow leopard (retail disk or other legal method if there is one)
  2. Use the Mac app store to update to El Capitan

or

  1. Go straight to El Capitan with the link to the tutorial you posted

Then restore the computer with cmd+r and it will be ready to sell.

 

Does that sound about right?


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Just now, ATFink said:
  1. Go straight to El Capitan with the link to the tutorial you posted

Then restore the computer with cmd+r and it will be ready to sell.

You can actually format the HDD when installing El Capitan. The bootable USB has a disk utlitly built in. 

 

But yeah, you’ve got it. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Thanks for the help!


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PSU: Corsair HX850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite Tempered glass edition

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@SenpaiKaplan

@DrMacintosh

Christ, the RAM is 200 Pin SODIMM DDR2...

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I can not find any reasonably priced kits with greater capacity than 2x2 GB (cheapest 2x4GB kit I can find is ~$90). Looks like I'll do some digging and post a classified.

 

If I can't find anything reasonably priced will 4 GB of system RAM work with El Capitan? If not what OS do you recommend I upgrade to?


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PSU: Corsair HX850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite Tempered glass edition

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3 minutes ago, ATFink said:

If I can't find anything reasonably priced will 4 GB of system RAM work with El Capitan? If not what OS do you recommend I upgrade to

macOS loves RAM caching. Maybe Mountain Lion? 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

macOS loves RAM caching. Maybe Mountain Lion? 

Apparently Apple says it's fine:

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but obviously that doesn't mean it's optimal.

 

I'll probably still do this since system RAM (when I upgrade assuming I can't find a decently priced 2x4 GB kit) will be double what Apple says is the minimum requirement. Is upgrading to El Capitan still a bad idea with a 2x2GB kit?


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Cooling: Corsair h100i

Mobo: Asus z97-A 

RAM: 4x8 GB 1600 MHz Corsair Vengence

PSU: Corsair HX850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite Tempered glass edition

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5 hours ago, ATFink said:

Apparently Apple says it's fine:

'll probably still do this since system RAM (when I upgrade assuming I can't find a decently priced 2x4 GB kit) will be double what Apple says is the minimum requirement. Is upgrading to El Capitan still a bad idea with a 2x2GB kit?

El Capitan is fine on 4 gigs. Its when you start thinking about Sierra or especially High Sierra when it becomes a problem.


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