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6 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-501479831-fuente-evga-b1-450w-80-plus-bronze-certificada-_JM

 

This seems to be the only thing not a flaming fireball remotely in your budget...

The only things I can find even remotely close to the budget are the EVGA B1, BT, BR units. Everything else is either twice the cost, or like you said a fireball.

EVGA B1 450 is a loud unit (surprise to no one)
If they are concerned about fan noise from the PSU, might be worthwhile spending a little bit extra and grabbing the Corsair VS450 (grey label) instead.
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-501480260-fuente-corsair-vs450-450w-80-plus-white-_JM

Hi, first post, I bought my PC from a retailer almost 4 years ago (quite old), and now I'm planning to change my PSU, because the fan

is starting to make a lot of noise (More than usual),is a generic chinese PSU (Kind of trash, I really need to change it).

 

My budget is something along 40- 50 Usd and my build needs 300W.

I  looked for a  PSU  suitable for this budget, and now I have a doubt between   a Thermaltake smart 430w 80plus White or  an EVGA 400 W.

I have read some reviews and these two doesn't seem to be the greatest PSU's, but for the options I've seen in the stores that fit my budget  are "good"  (I'm from Colombia and

here tech things tend to be more expensive and some brands like coolermaster or seasonic are very very hard to get.)

 

Also my build Is an Intel i5 446, nvidia geforce gt710, 8 gb ram ddr3, HDD 7200 rpm.


 

TL DR: I need a good and cheap 400 W  PSU, what should I buy between  a Thermaltake smart 430w 80plus White or  an EVGA 400 W. ??

 

 

 

 

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Both are also generic Chinese PSUs. That's my conclusion.

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1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

Both are also generic Chinese PSUs. That's my conclusion.

mmm ok,  besides that, which one is better ?

 

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Also, your system needs more like 150W, not 300W.

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Just now, Gojo47 said:

mmm ok,  besides that, which one is better ?

 

The SMART probably. It wouldn't be any improvement to your current one, I'd recommend just not buying.

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1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

The SMART probably. It wouldn't be any improvement to your current one, I'd recommend just not buying.

The thing is that I need to change it, the one I have right now doesn't even have a brand,Makes a lot of nice and lately heats up more than I like.

With the EVGA or the Thermaltake, I would get silent fans and would solve the heating problem.  

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Just now, Gojo47 said:

The thing is that I need to change it, the one I have right now doesn't even have a brand,Makes a lot of nice and lately heats up more than I like.

With the EVGA or the Thermaltake, I would get silent fans and would solve the heating problem.  

Uh... no you wouldn't. Those PSUs have quite loud fans... and also have very low temperature tolerance...

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6 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

Uh... no you wouldn't. Those PSUs have quite loud fans... and also have very low temperature tolerance...

:(  what PSU would you recommend in that price and power  range (40-50 usd/400W) ??

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1 minute ago, Gojo47 said:

:(  what PSU would you recommend in that price and power  range (40-50 usd/300W) ??

What stores do you have access to?

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Do you have a link to the website you're shopping at? Might be able to have a look to see if there's anything else that fits within your budget.

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You can check out the PSU tier list to evaluate what may or may not be worth getting. Click the PSU in my signature to see it 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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5 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Can you take a picture of the label on your current PSU?

Sure

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5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Do you have a link to the website you're shopping at? Might be able to have a look to see if there's anything else that fits within your budget.

As I said I'm from Colombia, there aren't many options here, so mostly the ones in this website ( Is like Ebay from Latam) https://www.mercadolibre.com.co/ , most of the posts are only in spanish and prices are in COP (  1 USD = 3000 COP). Thank you for your help !

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6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

You can check out the PSU tier list to evaluate what may or may not be worth getting. Click the PSU in my signature to see it 

I checked before posting, I didn't found the Thermaltake one, and the EVGA was basically in th trash category  but I still have the doubt.

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26 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

Also, your system needs more like 150W, not 300W.

I used a power caculator and I got  277 W ( I also have a disc reader and another fan)

 

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5 minutes ago, Gojo47 said:

I checked before posting, I didn't found the Thermaltake one, and the EVGA was basically in th trash category  but I still have the doubt.

But none of the other PSUs you have available are on the list?

 

Also, online wattage calculators can't be trusted.

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Just now, Gojo47 said:

I used a power caculator and I got  277 W ( I also have a disc reader and another fan)

 

Power calculators are useless. Use PCPartPicker's integrated calculator, it's the only decent one...

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11 minutes ago, Gojo47 said:

As I said I'm from Colombia, there aren't many options here, so mostly the ones in this website ( Is like Ebay from Latam) https://www.mercadolibre.com.co/ , most of the posts are only in spanish and prices are in COP (  1 USD = 3000 COP). Thank you for your help !

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-501479831-fuente-evga-b1-450w-80-plus-bronze-certificada-_JM

 

This seems to be the only thing not a flaming fireball remotely in your budget...

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6 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-501479831-fuente-evga-b1-450w-80-plus-bronze-certificada-_JM

 

This seems to be the only thing not a flaming fireball remotely in your budget...

The only things I can find even remotely close to the budget are the EVGA B1, BT, BR units. Everything else is either twice the cost, or like you said a fireball.

EVGA B1 450 is a loud unit (surprise to no one)
If they are concerned about fan noise from the PSU, might be worthwhile spending a little bit extra and grabbing the Corsair VS450 (grey label) instead.
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-501480260-fuente-corsair-vs450-450w-80-plus-white-_JM

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17 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

Use PCPartPicker's integrated calculator, it's the only decent one...

It just sums the TDP, and adds a couple watts for fans & ram kek

We already know that Intel doesn't give a fuck about the tdp, and you can always increase gpu power limit.

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2 hours ago, Spotty said:

The only things I can find even remotely close to the budget are the EVGA B1, BT, BR units. Everything else is either twice the cost, or like you said a fireball.

EVGA B1 450 is a loud unit (surprise to no one)
If they are concerned about fan noise from the PSU, might be worthwhile spending a little bit extra and grabbing the Corsair VS450 (grey label) instead.
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-501480260-fuente-corsair-vs450-450w-80-plus-white-_JM

I like the corsair and I could get the extra money,  now two things, first: Is it worth the upgrade between the  ones I asked in the post and the corsair/ B1 450 ?, in terms of perfomance/ reliability (I mean, I don't have  high end parts but I do use my pc around 5-7 hours per day aprox)

 

Second, in terms of noise,  can you  tell the difference between the corsair and the B1 450 ?, where can I see how many dB each one makes under load ?

 

Thank you so much for the help, kind of new in this. :)

 

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21 minutes ago, Gojo47 said:

Second, in terms of noise,  can you  tell the difference between the corsair and the B1 450 ?, where can I see how many dB each one makes under load ?

Corsair VS450 - https://www.cybenetics.com/code/pdf.php?id=aH1

EVGA 450B (B1) - https://www.cybenetics.com/code/pdf.php?id=OBo

 

The VS450 is quieter in low loads where your system will be sitting. 17-23dBa for the Corsair VS450 vs 25-30dBa for the EVGA 450B.

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34 minutes ago, Gojo47 said:

I like the corsair and I could get the extra money,  now two things, first: Is it worth the upgrade between the  ones I asked in the post and the corsair/ B1 450 ?, in terms of perfomance/ reliability (I mean, I don't have  high end parts but I do use my pc around 5-7 hours per day aprox)

Yes, it is. You go from loud fan and fire hazard on one side to ok power supply on the other side. I'd say it is worth the upgrade.

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ok, I see, I'll do the upgrade,  I'll try to get the Corsair, if not I think I'll get the B1 450 instead. 

Again thank you so much for the help, and solving my questions.

much appreciated.

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